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It's time to ignite the spark of inclusion with Inclusion Bites. And today is episode 134 with the title, Claiming Each Other. And I have the absolute honour and privilege to welcome Lorie Solis. Lorie is a somatic trauma worker. That's easy for you to say. Body worker, educator, herbalist, and healer. And when I asked Lorie to describe her superpower, she said, she is a dynamic woman, and has gifts of sight on many dimensions and can see quite well in the darkness. Hello, Lorie.

Welcome to the show.

Hi, Joanne. Thank you for having me.

Absolute pleasure. Absolute pleasure. So, Lorie, tell me more about claiming each other and somatic healing.

Claiming each other is what I'm calling both a personal life work that I'm in at the moment and as well a methodology and training that I've developed and teaching people at the moment. And it's really about resilient relationships, building resilient relationships across divides in conflict kind of when we least expect it, when conflict comes up within our most intimate circles, especially when things are really important conflicts, not just kind of run of the mill mundane conflict, but really charged political, personal, ancestral, intergenerational material that comes up in our intimate circles and how to handle that with care, with reverence, with skill to heal it in the context of that relationship, and to build resiliency for, yeah, for more skillful, compassionate relationships.

It's interesting. I I love the way you frame that. It inflict whether it's political, personal, or or or other dimensions. What's the root cause of conflict? Where where does it where does it come from?

Oh, man. I wish I knew a really definitive answer to that question. I I think of conflict as a creative force. I like to think of conflict as a generative potential for something, a healing that wants to happen, the emergence of something new that is intelligent in its own way. So So I get curious from a somatic perspective of how we protect ourselves from a conflict. You know, the perception of threat. So it's something that we want to avoid or save ourselves from. But to kind of alter our perception, to recognize the opportunity, the calling, the potential, that it is an intelligent creative force that wants to happen through us.

So where does it come from? I don't know. Maybe this innate creative intelligence of the cosmos may be manifesting through us. I don't know.

I I think about, as I was saying, is that you can't challenge emotion with logic. And a lot of conflict is is comes out of emotion because we become emotionally connected with something. Yes. It's hard for us to let go of that emotion and that and that feeling, isn't it?