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And today is episode 187, the title Healing at the Heart. And I have the absolute honour and privilege to welcome Jared Carroll. Jared is a personal development coach working at the intersection of social change and healing. He helps people understand who they are so they can show up more consciously, courageously and sustainably in the world. When I asked Jared to describe his superpower, he said it is bringing equanimity to difficult conversations so people can stay present, honest and open instead of shutting down or fighting back. Hello, Jared. Welcome to the show.

Hello, Jo. Thank you for having me. Great to be here.

Absolute pleasure. And we were. We've been yakking away for probably 25 minutes and we had to press record quickly, otherwise everything we talk about is going to end up on the floor and be lost for time. But we were. We talked about the fact that you live in Oakland, California.

I do, yeah.

That gave us something in common because I was in Oakland a year ago. A year and a half ago.

That's right. Well, you said you were at HR west emceeing the conference. I spoke at HR West. I think it was 2019. 2018 19, but. Yeah, right. Downtown Oakland, 10 minutes, same place.

The Marriott Convention Centre, was it?

Yeah, they have a big, big building there down like. I think it's. Yeah. So. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Very cool.

And. And back at me. You're a football fan, so you've. Sorry, UK soccer fan. So you follow the English Premiership. So you know about Portsmouth and where I come from. Because you follow the team.

I do. I. His.

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Well. And maybe we'll get into this because it's part of my journey, but I was a college athlete. Not soccer, but lacrosse. And I was a big Sports guy in my youth, in college and young, Young adult. And then I decided I didn't want to be that guy anymore. But I kind of had one. One little thing I couldn't let go from my youth, which was. Which was soccer.

So I decided, well, if I'm going to follow sport, I'm just going to pick one, one country. And I chose England. And so. So I know the. I know the British geography largely through where the soccer teams are.

That's a. That's a really, really good way of doing it. And I know many Brits who follow American football or basketball or baseball, and they know all of the names of the clubs and where they are in their world. So, yeah, I guess if you're going to learn geography, tie it to something and why not sport?

Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, happy to be here and talk about whatever makes sense for us to talk about.

Well, let's start with the word that I was you put into your bio and show notes as equanimity. I struggled there. I struggled to pronounce it the first time because I'd never used it before. And so I even had to feed it to copilot to look up what it meant. But you said that word has sat with you for a couple of decades, so why did you bring that into the conversation?