Hi. This is Paul Zellizer, and welcome to the Awarepreneurs podcast. On the show, we dive deep into wisdom from some of the world's leading social entrepreneur. Our goal is to help you increase your positive impact, your profitability, Before we get into today's topic, I have one request. If you could hit that subscribe button and do a review on your favorite podcast app, it helps this show grow. It helps more people learn how to have positive impact through a values based business. Thank you so much. Today, I am thrilled to introduce you to doctor David Gruder, and our topic is boosting collaborative accountability in impact organizations.

Let me tell you a little bit about David. Doctor David Gruder is a corporate counsel with 12 award winning, best selling clinical and organizational psychologists. As an executive team orchestrator and culture catalyst, he makes integrity profitable by equipping socially responsible businesses with missing mindsets, skill sets, and procedures to actualize their unique calling in helping humanity's most elevated future emerge. As president of Integrity Culture Systems and director for the Center for Enlightened Self Sovereignty, he provides keynotes, training programs, executive consulting, writing, and media interviews. He also hosts the reimagining humanity's future and your show, and his main website is doctorgruder.com. David, welcome to the show.

Well, thank you, Paul. It's a pleasure to be with you.

You've you've done this once or twice before. You're your own podcast host, and you've been a guest many, many times, so I'm thrilled to be here with you. And before we get into this specific topic about collaborative accountability, David, If somebody hears that bio and they're like, that's cool, but I want a little more texture. Who is this guy? What you know, he's been doing some things for a while. What would somebody not know about you and your work based on a one paragraph bio?

Well, they they wouldn't know things like my parents sent me to Woodstock, for example. Not that they knew what they were sending me to, and that's its own really delicious story. They they wouldn't know that I have been basically a futurist my whole life. I didn't know that at the time, but I grew up in and around the New York City area. And at 10 and 11 years old, the New York World's Fair was going on in 1964 and '65, and it sparked in me a massive passion about the future. They wouldn't know about me that my favorite history course as an undergraduate was called history of the future. So, there and they they they might not know that I'm a huge science fiction and fantasy fan.

Nice.

And they also might not know that I'm a recovering musician.

What'd you play?

Well, a lot of instruments out of self defense, but my extensive formal training is in classical and and Broadway and jazz trombone and classical and Broadway voice.

Very cool. Okay. Now I'm really glad I asked the question. Thanks for giving us a little nuance, a little texture, David. So this idea of collaborative accountability, when we were talking, there's there's many ways we could position your work, but I have never heard anybody talk about it this way. And I was thinking about our audience and how much our audience wants to build collaborative culture and collaborative communities, and how sometimes when that's the value I'm thinking of a client of mine, we talk about accountability, but we're not always great in progressive circles at actually creating systems of accountability. Right? So the first question I have for you, before we talk about collaborative accountability, let's back up a little bit and just say, what do you mean by accountability, and why is it important if you're somebody who cares about positive impact and a positive future? Mhmm.

Well, let me start with my one sentence definition of accountability, which we might need to unpack because I've condensed a lot into a single sentence, and we can go from there. So I define accountability as taking responsibility for the impact that the choices I make about how I spend my life energy have on those to whom I've made commitments.

It's a great definition. Can you say that again? That was really helpful.