A lot of people think that getting on online dating is rushing or stepping outside of God's will of meeting someone.

People think waiting on God is a passive process, that I'm supposed to sit here and just wait for God to bring the person to me. Therefore, I'm not going to put myself out there. I'm not going to engage on dating apps. I'm not going to do anything. People have idolized a story of I want to meet someone this specific way, and I don't want to tell a story where, oh, yeah, I met John on a dating app. You don't need an amazing story of meeting to create an amazing marriage. If you are talking to somebody on a dating app for more than a few days without meeting them or going on a FaceTime date, that's your problem. In online dating, a perfect way to

trust God is to participate. We pray for God to move a mountain, he gives us a shovel, and then we participate.

All right, jj, so one of our school of dating students just got engaged, and she met the guy on a dating app. A dating app. Okay, so does that make her worldly or unspiritual because she met her guy on a dating app?

Well, I thought the guy was a pastor. Is that.

Oh, yeah, she also met a pastor. I forgot about that.

So should he be fired?

He should probably be fired.

How could a pastor be on a dating app?

We're gonna find you and report you, you bad boy. All right. That was pretty cringe, right, Kate? So the question today is, are using dating apps too worldly for Christians? And by that, you know, what do we mean? Is it too hookup? Is it too related to hookup culture? Is it stepping outside of God's will and taking things into your own hands? What do we mean by Are dating apps too worldly?

Yeah, I think people have a fear. Well, they. First of all, they have an ick around dating apps. They are so frustrated, burnt out, annoyed by them. So that's number one.

So that doesn't work.

Talk about that. But I think the other thing is a lot of people, if you ask them, are you on a dating app? They're like, oh, no, I'm not on a dating app. And a lot of people don't go on apps or don't want to be on apps because they think it's not God's way of meeting someone.

Okay, so a couple different things, but mainly for today. They don't think it's God's way for them to meet someone.

Yes.

Or they don't feel Like, I've heard this before. I. I just don't feel peace or I don't feel like God wants me on the dating apps right now.

Exactly.

What does that mean?

It's basically like God's will for my life is not going to be on a dating app because if I did that, it'd be taking it into my own hands. I just have to surrender, let God do it. And if I actually participate in the dating process and do something like a dating app, that is me stepping outside of God's will.

Now

we're in the gray zone season so much there. This is. This is the gray zone where we talk about confusing topics in Christian dating. So when you hear someone say that, like, what do you say?

Well, I really wonder, is that really what's going on? Did God really say that?

Right.

How did you come to the conclusion that God really told you that's not the way that you're going to meet your spouse? Like, how do you know that God is saying, jj, I don't want you online dating. That's not the story I have for you. And how you're going to meet your spouse, is that really actually what is going on?

I mean, that's what a lot of people are saying.

Right.

But I think it's bogus. Okay. So I think that God uses and works through various means. Obviously, you would not be watching this or listening to this right now without technology. And so you can make the claim we should all be Amish or, you know, and not use technology because technology was not God's way. Well, technology didn't exist back there then. So God works through the ways of technology.

Yeah, but what is. Why do dating apps specifically get this bad rap? It just has like a. Has like a dark cloud over them. Okay?

Oh, yeah, it does have a dark cloud. I think a few reasons is because they think that dating apps, they associate it with a hookup culture. So a lot of people don't want to participate because. Cause they think if I go on there, it's all the cringe people. It's all the people wanting not good things. And so I can't go on there.

That's.

That's unspiritual. That would mean I just want a hookup. Or they're like, that's desperate. I'm not that desperate to find someone.

Okay. Right. But why do we have to frame it so negatively? Right? So obviously there's different kinds of dating apps and we can talk about that.

Right?

I mean, there are way better dating apps out there. Than others.