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So adjust your earbuds and settle in. It's time to ignite the spark of inclusion with Inclusion Bites. And today is episode 168 with the title Corrupting the Norm With Love. And I have the absolute honour and privilege to welcome Heather Egginton. Heather is a disruptor of the Norm and a truth, trust and love activator, passionate about creating deeper human connections in an often disconnected world. When I asked Heather to describe her superpower, she said it is the ability to bring strangers together and leaving them feel truly connected. Wow. Hello, Heather, welcome to the show.

Hello, Joanne. Thank you so much for having me.

Absolute pleasure. This is a return visit. I. Marie, actually my wife Marie and I came on your show back in January, I think it was.

Yes, you came on. It was such an amazing conversation. It was the wealth of you two and you were the one first couple that I went live with. It was amazing.

We talked about my gender transition, we talked about how Marie coped with that. So, yeah, that's online and I'll signpost that in the show notes if you want to listen to that as well, that'd be fantastic. So, Heather, you describe yourself as the Truth, Trust and love activator. Can you describe what that means to you and how it shapes the way you connect with people?

Firstly, Joanne, thank you. I know I'm giggling a lot. We've had such fun before we even got on to actually recording, so I'm just trying to rein in my. My giggles and so my. I guess what being a truth, Trust and love activator is all about is really, in my company, that is automatically what happens. There are people around me that cannot lie. They seem to find themselves trusting themselves more to be honest. Right self honest and be honest with what's going on with them and.

And through that they just love themselves more. Because they can see how much beauty there is inside them. Is just one of my superpowers. We all have them. It's just not always easy to really recognise, without us doing anything, what our actual powerful presence really creates for other people just by being ourselves.

It's interesting what you say there about the truth. The truth, and it starts as you. I think you're right. It starts with ourselves. Because if we're not careful, what we find ourselves doing is creating our own lie, which then becomes our. Which then becomes a version of our truth, doesn't it? If we're not careful, it's that inauthenticity, it's that pretence with the world that get either scared to come out or you're not prepared to face up to something. So you create this new normal for yourself and that becomes your story if you're not careful.