You know, recently came up that Joe Rogan was on my friend Jesse Michaels podcast.

Wait, Joe Rogan was on Jesse Michael around?

Live for 30 minutes podcast. And he's been on my podcast a bunch of times. We know him very well. I didn't know Joe Rogan was on Jesse's podcast.

Yeah, he almost never goes. I mean, I've only seen him on Lex Friedman's podcast. Jesse built this huge set. It looks like the inside of a. A kid's bedroom on a spaceship with buttons and knobs and dials and it looks like they're flying on a spaceship. Joe is the guest. Jesse was interviewing him. It's gotten a million plus views in just the past four or five days.

But this, you know, it's kind of the last straw. Joe Rogan going all in on the moon landing was fake. With most of the episodes about this disclosure that aliens are real.

Vague and weird and kind of, you know, opaque. It was vivid, it was very strange. And there was these very slender, tall, human like things that were talking to me. They weren't gray, they were kind of like pinkish like us. They were, you know, like Caucasian looking creatures.

And, you know, the issue is that you like to see your friends do well, but then they, they have big platforms and they get lots of attention, they get big guests. And then they kind of spread this nonsense that comes from people like Bart Sibrel. I mean, if you look him up on Wikipedia, his entry is, you know, is conspiracy theorist. That's what he's known for. And so I thought, you know, the best way to kind of take on these guys. And by the way, he went on Joe Rogan before I did.

It's fake.

So this thing is kind of just waving on its own. No one's even touching it. And it looks like it's waving in a breeze. It's so it stops moving and then it starts moving again. Now again, there's one footage that shows.

It even more so than that. Like an astronaut walking past it, creating the breeze. And then the flag blows without him touching it.

Yeah, I'd like to see that. So how much further does this go, Jamie?

Four minute video. Three minute video.

So scoot ahead. I think this is actually the one.

And then when I went on it, you know, I talked a lot about the moon and so forth, but then apparently there was another event. Forget exactly what it was, but maybe Bart went on again and he was talking all this nonsense. And I just wrote to Joe Rogan that I'd like to debate this guy Bart, because I think he's discredits NASA America, you know, and just completely false. And his allegations are so simplistic and easy to refute that it'd be great to have a debate. So Joe asked Bart, apparently, to debate me. And Bart said, no, he doesn't want to debate me because he claimed that I, as a scientist and not an astronaut, are really victims of NASA's perpetrating this hoax. So he said this on Danny Jones's podcast about me and just made all these blunders and fact and math and all sorts of physics errors and just logical errors. And so I've made a couple videos about him just because he is this, as I said, the super spreader who not only kind of discredits NASA, but as I said, you know, I'm a very patriotic person.

And to discredit the greatest accomplishment of humankind, which includes America, it's a pretty big deal. Especially since I've worked for NASA in different capacities, including capacities that benefit people like Bard and you and anybody who's ever gotten on a plane. NASA didn't just send people to the moon and launch the Hubble Space Telescope. They work on aeronautics. So it has to do with aviation safety research into climate and hurricanes. They do a tremendous amount of research as well as scientific research, but even the astronomical can be outweighed by their contributions to the safety of every human being who's ever gotten on a plane in America. And so that's really kind of the disrespect that I see towards America, towards NASA that he cultivates. And then Joe just sucks it up because it gets, you know, attention to Joe.

And then this guy won't debate me on Joe Rogan's podcast. He just debated on this guy, Danny Jones's podcast, a real astronaut who walked on the moon named Charlie Duke. Okay, sorry.

Earth slowing you down. Okay, so the total distance of the moon is about 3,000 miles an hour. Seven times 70. That's 210, 000 miles.

Okay, okay, so when.

Well, so when you go through the Van Allen Bells, you're going so fast, it's just. You're through.

How fast are you traveling? When you guys were going through the.

Van Allen Bells, you know, escape velocity is about.

I thought you said it was three.