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Brian Keating
00:00:00 - 00:00:20
Experimentalists are kinda like exterminators. Our job is to kill off the bugs, skin theories, and destroy theories that don't comport with evidence. We're not required to create new theory, and also look, what are the limitations of experiments? So most of our time is looking for ways to prove ourselves wrong, which is Feynman said is the job to not be, to not be fooled.
Curt Jaimungal
00:00:20 - 00:00:30
First of all, let's get get through the questions 1 by 1. What are your goals? Explain to the audience what you do with your channel, what your goals are as you as a professor for your life.
Brian Keating
00:00:30 - 00:01:44
Yeah. So, my basic dictum in life is that it's incredibly short, and you have to make the most of it, and you have to do everything you can until we invent time travel. We have to do everything we can in order to make each moment as meaningful as invested in with meaning as possible. And so I do that in in different ways, different habits, rituals, practices. But one thing I've always wanted to do is to write a book and leave a legacy as a as an author. And I've learned so much from other authors that I wanted to start something, especially during this time of COVID, to give back to people that have been my silent mentors or distant learning mentors, namely folks like, as you mentioned, Michael Shermer has been on my podcast. We've had people like, we we had David Kaiser, a very famous and and well known physicist, all the way down to people that have influenced my life personally that haven't written books, such as Jim Simons who we had on the podcast for Father's Day. And, again, following Carl Sagan's dictum that books are magic, books are proof that human beings can work magic.
Brian Keating
00:01:44 - 00:02:33
You have an author's voice, possibly a long dead author from communicating from 100 or maybe 1000 of years ago in the case of you know, I read a lot of the bible and and things like that we can get into. And, how it influences me is, you get to create this sort of, artificial I call it artificial wisdom. We hear a lot. I'm sure you've had a lot of contact with people that study artificial intelligence. What I'm more interested in is artificial wisdom, namely, how can you accrue wisdom without going through all the experiences that other brilliant people have gone through. So I love to, read books. I love to write books. I'm thinking about my second book now as we speak and putting it together based on a lot of the interviews and, things that have emerged from the conversations with these luminaries that I'm really fortunate to talk to.
Curt Jaimungal
00:02:33 - 00:02:36
How are you defining wisdom in artificial wisdom?
Brian Keating
00:02:37 - 00:03:29
So artificial wisdom is just kind of a playoff on artificial intelligence, namely that, that you have bang awful lot of knowledge that's available to humanity through theory, Wikipedia, the Internet, etcetera. But, and in fact, I remind people that the word science in Latin means knowledge. It doesn't mean wisdom. Wisdom is the ability to synthesize fat pieces of knowledge in a way that we don't know but may be uniquely human. And I think synthesizing it to avoid we we I'm also a private pilot. I fly tiny little planes. And one of the things we say is, you have to learn from the mistakes of others because you won't live long enough to make them all yourself. So that's sort of the, you know, kind of the 10,000 hour rule applied to pilots, which I think is one of Malcolm Gladwell's examples of of, you know, truly outstanding pilots are those that have obtained 10000 hours.
Brian Keating
00:03:29 - 00:04:01
And you can only get that far if you've done things and benefited from others' wisdom. The situation that they've been in so that you don't have to go through it. So it's not just about knowledge. I mean, I think Derek Sievers once said, you know, if it was all about knowledge, we'd all be billionaires with 6 pack abs. There's an abundance of knowledge. Wisdom is synthesizing it, distilling it, and catalyzing the many disparate pieces that you get into some coherent form of of of life message or with or vision, which is what I try to maintain.
Curt Jaimungal
00:04:01 - 00:04:02
Have you heard of John Varecki?
Brian Keating
00:04:03 - 00:04:05
No. I haven't. Who's that, Curt?
Curt Jaimungal
00:04:05 - 00:04:18
Cognitive science from U of T. So plug plug there. Because I also interviewed there's 2 interviews with him on my channel. Oh, cool. He extensively studies wisdom from a cognitive science perspective. I think he made
Brian Keating
00:04:19 - 00:04:23
Yeah. I would definitely like to. Yeah. Okay. Maybe we'll get in touch. You'll help me get in touch with him.
Curt Jaimungal
00:04:23 - 00:04:50
Them. Now you mentioned that the mind might not be the human mind might be uniquely predisposed or capable of wisdom that is the distilling of so much knowledge down to something that's practical, which implies a goal, and then we can talk about what where do you get those goals from later when we get to the biblical section. Do you happen to do you think that the mind can be mechanized? That is what I mean is that a machine can simulate the mind.
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