Hello, everyone. My name is Joanne Lockwood and I am your host for the Inclusion Bites podcast. In this series, I have interviewed a number of amazing people and simply had the conversation around the subject of inclusion, belonging, and generally making the world a better place for everyone to thrive. If you'd like to join me in the future, then please do drop me a line to jo.lockwood@seechangehappen.co.uk, that's S-E-E Change Happen dot Co dot UK. You can catch up with all of the previous shows on iTunes, Spotify and the usual places.
Something went wrong!
Hang in there while we get back on track
Authenticity Unveiled
The Inclusion Bites Podcast
Authenticity Unveiled
JL
Speaker
Joanne Lockwood
LG
Speaker
Lee Gilbert
00:00 Transition to authenticity after decades of acting. 04:35 Entrepreneurial journey, success, finding true happiness.
✨ Magic Chat
Don't have time for the full episode?
Ask anything about this conversation — get answers in seconds, sourced from the transcript.
Try asking
Featured moments
Highlights
“But in 2016, I kind of set myself free a bit. That freedom exercised itself fully in 2020. I can explain the gap between 2016 and 2020 a bit more later. And then since 2020, I've been living authentically, and now I've kind of found a sense of belonging, which means I found happiness.”
“I'm very driven to be open about my journey so I can offer myself as a role model to others.”
“I did my evolution alone. I'm not saying it was easier or harder being alone or being with people, but I had no pressure from people around me to be. To operate at a different pace.”
“I talk about vulnerability being almost a superpower or something that I'm. I see as part of an authenticity.”
“You talked about shame. In order to have shame, I think you need to be almost, given the situation, where do you think your shame came from? You don't self generate it out of nothing, do you?”
Timeline
How it unfolded
Read along
Full transcript
So plug in the headphones, grab a decaf and let's get going. Today is episode 96 with the title "Authenticity Unveiled" and I have the absolute honour and privilege to welcome Lee Gilbert. Lee is a marketing leader and a volunteer, mentor and counsellor for adults with gender dysphoria. When I asked Lee to describe her superpower, she said, being an authentic leader who is comfortable with being vulnerable and using the happiness that comes from it. Hello, Lee. Welcome to the show.
Hi, Jo. It's a real pleasure to be here.
Likewise. And where are we now? We're in Twixmas, aren't we? The bit between Christmas and New Year 2023. And we were just chatting just now about our family occasions and all the things we've done. So, Lee, authenticity unveiled, what's all that?
I guess there's two parts to that. Authenticity is something that's become more important to me in the last few years, and the unveiling is the part that took 40 years, I guess is a way of looking at it. So, winding back the clock just to set the context here. I am transgender. I am someone that has been through and experienced a lot in my life, but I didn't become authentically myself until 2020. Prior to that, I was operating what I would call the role of a lifetime, as Ronald Reagan once described it, as an acting role. I was one of the world's best actors. I was acting a life that wasn't authentic, but a life that was very successful, productive, and from the outside to other people, looked amazing.
But inside, to me, was very uncomfortable and challenging. Winding back the clock. I knew I was trans in 1985, which was when I was about seven, coming on eight that year. In 1995, when I finished education in March of that year, I attempted my own life, because that was a point in my life that was possibly the lowest. I've never thought about it or had ideation about that since. But it was a moment that was the deepest and darkest time as I began adulthood at that point. And it was a time when it happened, but it thankfully failed. I guess I decided to do what society expected me to do for the next 30 years almost.
And I'll. And I'll tell you the difference between the 30 and the 35, the difference in the time there in a moment. But the intervening period, I was reasonably successful. I decided, for my own mental health reasons, not to go to university. I could have gone, but I chose not to because I thought the isolation of university, considering what had just happened, might have been one of the worst things I could do for myself. So I decided to go and get a job and go for the picket fence and the 2.4 kids and everything else that the world kind of dictates that you're supposed to do. Dictators, a bit of a strange word to use, but I guess that's how it feels. And that lack of belonging created that inauthentic feeling.
But at the same time, I'm quite a driven, passionate, entrepreneurial individual. So I kind of wandered through five years of life in my first roles and then set up my own business in the turn of the millennium, and then basically made myself unemployable for 20 years, during which time I founded a couple of startups and founded a marketing agency and did some speaking. Became very successful to the outside world with supercars and houses and multiple holidays and family and everything else. It looked like I was being authentic, but actually it was the biggest fraud in human history, certainly in my history. But in 2016, I kind of set myself free a bit. That freedom exercised itself fully in 2020. I can explain the gap between 2016 and 2020 a bit more later. And then since 2020, I've been living authentically, and now I've kind of found a sense of belonging, which means I found happiness.
And not only am I living authentically, it's dramatically improved the way I act, who I am, and I enjoyed being a leader in an authentic way. So I guess that's the unveiling part, Jo, and that's the journey to authenticity. Wow.
Well, first of all, thank you for sharing and trusting me with some of that information. It can't be easy to talk about that. I appreciate that. So you're of seven or 819 85. A little bit younger than me, I won't say how. Well, quite a lot younger than me. Ten or so years. 1015 years.
1985 was still the dark ages in human evolution. When we talk about Internet, we talk about probably right in the middle of section 28, I guess, close to section 20. 819 88, wasn't it? I think.
Yeah, I was at school when that happened.
So, yeah, you were growing up in a time where being queer was AIDS, AIDS was around, all that kind of stuff. It was being demonised. We look at those, look back at that time in history, it wasn't a great time to be a young, questioning person. There's no information, no literature, no nothing else around. So when you say you were trying to figure itself out in your head, what reference point did you have to try and use to analyse that?
Nothing. And I guess that was the problem, Jo, from 1985 to 1995, when I attempted my own life, you're quite right, that was the vacuum of information that we lived in and that was the backdrop to it. And I had no role models around me, which is why today I'm very driven to be open about my journey so I can offer myself as a role model to others. And as you said in the beginning, I do volunteer to mentor young adults that are going through that journey myself. And I'm very open on LinkedIn about my journey and some of the challenges amongst everything else professionally. But during that period, there was no information, there was no Internet. And I think the only things that happened, and this sounds silly, but the only things that would happen is occasionally you would get in the news of the world or the Sunday people or something, there would be a story every now and again, a few times a year, you would get sex swap cop or some army major that has been brave enough to change their gender and sold their story to the News of the World. You'd get like Julia Grant, who did the BBC tv series in the 80s, which was.
They were little diamonds in the rough. That happened. But the sex swap stop. Sex swap cop stories were so derogatory. But actually, I was compelled to read them because it was a point of identity. It was like, actually, I get that. But you're looking back at now, the way that the newspapers dealt with that and the headlines they put on it were, quite frankly, shocking, but that was the only information we had, and we didn't have any Internet, and there was very little in libraries because of government legislation, as you've alluded to, and there was no schooling. And I think the lack of information created the darkness and some of the mental health challenges I had at that time and put me in that difficult place in 95, which music actually got me out of.
It was music that got me out of the darkness. But that vacuum of information is so kick. Of course, today you flip that coin and there's arguably so much information, and so much of that information is still riddled with that media kind of poisoned language in places, but some of it is genuinely powerful and really great information. But you've gone from nothing to too much, arguably, and there's a lot of confusion. So young people today, the ones that I work with at least, have the opposite problem to the one I did, which is that they're bombarded with so much that they're not quite sure which way to turn.
Yeah, so many more options these days. In the old days, it was transvestite or transsexual or transvestite is pre cross dressing, because cross dressing is kind of the contemporary terms of. Transvestite was the term used in those days. And you were a tv or a ts, that was kind of a language. Now we've got a whole load of different ways to describe gender in terms of fluidity, demi transmasculine, transfeminine, nonbinary fluid. All these kind of different terms exist. And the one I think is most important, that's now evolved, is questioning. You're allowed to question.
You're allowed to say, I don't know, but society wants you to know. I think sometimes you get pushed into making a decision and not allowed to just figure yourself out for a bit.
I think that's right. I think we kind of grow up in a binary world in so many senses. There's left, there's right, there's up, there's down, there's male, there's female, there's black, there's white. And I think that binary makes people feel safe in their own thoughts. And being in that, dare I say the term, 50 shades of grey spectrum in the middle makes some people feel uncomfortable and they find that questions themselves, let alone those that are questioning. And that's where some of the discomfort and some of the challenges that others have with things I think happen. But we do live in a binary world, and there are good things that come from binary factors. It kind of makes things easy to understand.
But when things are less binary, that's when complexity occurs.
I did my evolution alone. I'm not saying it was easier or harder being alone or being with people, but I had no pressure from people around me to be. To operate at a different pace. I sometimes wonder if we have created a society where because of the queues for the gender identity clinics are now six to eight years. I think depending on where you go, if you're a young person trying to get on the pathway, I think the time scales are even longer. You're more like to become an adult before you get seen at the youth services now because they've all been disrupted, there's this kind of need to get on the conveyor belt. Whereas when I was trying to figure myself out because I was in isolation, yes, I didn't understand. I couldn't figure myself out.
But I didn't have a whole peer group of pressure or comparison drawing me into something that I wasn't sure about. People were surprised when I transitioned because I went from sort of naught to 60 in a millisecond. It was like, how did that happen? Because I kind of dotted all my I's and crossed my t's and then went, right now I know. I think today people are using their quite rightly questioning in public, and out they come out and question, rather than keep it as a secret in question.
I think that's quite right, and it's positive that that happens. I talk about vulnerability being almost a superpower or something that I'm. I see as part of an authenticity. I. You know, from my period up until what was November 2015, when I first came out to my wife, we then had a period of five years where no one else knew. But during that five years, myself, most particularly, but also my wife, and building those foundations of a strong relationship and everything else that goes with kind of having that cornerstone there, at least in my experience, for me, and it was important, it allowed me to do those things somewhat in private for five years, but with someone I could talk to. But up until that point, it was without it. But prior to that time, doing it in isolation created shame.
And shame is a very, very negative emotion, but one I've learned to turn into a powerful emotion now because shame is the backbone of vulnerability. So, yes, I feel shame about some of my past, and I do. I've learned to be okay with that and to turn that around and to say, actually, by being vulnerable, that allows me to engage people at a deeper level. And I'm quite glad that I had that time. I'm quite glad that I had that adjustment. There was this period of deep shame, then a period of five years of kind of figuring stuff out and a little bit of that with my wife at the time. But then, literally during lockdown, let's not forget, 2020 was during lockdown, when the world slowed down a bit and I was allowed some mental capacity to think about things. It was like, okay, now is right, now is right.
Lockdown was pants. But actually, one of the positive things for lockdown for me was it gave me that bandwidth to make the decision that I was going to come out to the world in summer of 2020. Professionally, I didn't do it till the new year, but the family was first, obviously, and had we not have had lockdown and that kind of pause of life, I'm not sure it would have happened at that moment in time. So it's quite an interesting perspective of deep shame transition, of kind of getting my mind together and dealing with some of that and then having the pause of lockdown and that to be the unveiling, as you described at the start. And it happened at nocta 60 for me too, from that point onwards. I mean, to the outside world at least, but actually it was a 40 plus year journey prior to that, but to the outside world, everyone was like, what the heck? But that's how it happens.
I guess your story is not too dissimilar to my story. I first talked to my wife 2012 and then didn't really announce it to the world until mid 20, 20 16. So it's a four year private secret to try and figure that stuff out and try and keep our relationship together and prepare for telling the family. Although even at that journey, I wasn't sure where I was going with it. There was no destination. It was just kind of, let's just figure this stuff out. You talked about shame. In order to have shame, I think you need to be almost, given the situation, where do you think your shame came from? You don't self generate it out of nothing, do you?
No. I think shame is quite a complex thing. On one level, it comes from a societal norm perspective that I was doing, or I was. I am not what society expects. So that creates shame on a sort of surface level. But on a deeper level, there's the shame of having a relationship and a marriage at that time. When I told my wife coming on for about 1314 years, it's, it's now over 20. But it's the shame of the sense of, did I do the right thing during that time? I'm quite a morally ethically driven person, so I think some of the shame comes from that.
And then the other part of shame, I think, comes from what I gave up, which is a strange thing to say. But I got to a situation where I built successful couple of successful startups, successful agency, a successful speaking career. I had a driveway full of supercars, two dressage horses. I was, to the outside world, very successful. So shame comes a little bit in kind of the public exposure at that time, and it's quite a journey to do that in public. I kind of created this Persona, which was my protection. But then the Persona became a big driver for change, because losing or leaving that, which was absolutely the right thing to do, because it was all a complete and utter front. But I built it up.
And then in order to be me and to be authentic, I had to close the door on all of that and almost start again, which is what I did, really.
There must have been a huge. I'm used the word fear, fear of that unknown, how the world was going to react, how people around you would react. And that fear, I'm just using my own experience, held me back for many years. How did you overcome that fear? And how big was that fear for you?
It was huge. There's two parts to it. You spoke about coming out to your wife first and then having a period where there's the adjustment, and then there was where you come out to the remainder of the world. I mean, let's face it, you kind of come out every day in some expenses, but that's a separate conversation. The fear of. I call it jumping off a cliff moment. That's how I've described it in the past. So I had a huge jump off a cliff moment.
I was at a hotel in Belgium on the corner of the Formula one racing circuit spa. Frank Orchamp. I'd been doing a two day track day thing with some cars, which I was ridiculously into at that time. And in the middle night, it was the night of the batter clan. Paris Brussels. Terrorist attack, actually, to anchor it in history. And at that particular time, although I didn't know it until the following morning. But about the terrorist attack, that is overnight from about 11:00 p.m.
Until 04:00 a.m. I was coming out to my wife from a hotel room in Belgium while she was back home. So I jumped off a metaphorical cliff, remotely, if you like, and then came back home to my wife and family. So that was the first jump off a cliff moment. The next jump off a cliff moment is when you come out to your family. And then the bigger jump off a cliff moment was, I'm now going to throw my professional career away in the following year and kind of stand on another grenade and see what that brings about. But, yeah, there's the three metaphorical cliffs, I guess, wife, family, professional, and they're all big leaps.
Which is the hardest?
That's a great question, Jo. The hardest was my wife, because I knew I had to do that. I'd been trying to do it for nine months. Prior to that, the family one lockdown really helped me get in a great place. To do that was actually the easiest at that point. The professional one almost felt like a rite of passage. It just felt something that, okay, we're now here. We now need to do this.
And I connected at that time with a need to find a belonging. I kind of had 20 years of making myself completely unemployable and doing lots of things, but I realised that actually I wanted a home then. And in order to find. It wasn't about being a solopreneur, an entrepreneur, an agency owner, a speaker. It wasn't about being a startup founder. I didn't want that anymore. I was probably too old to a point. But what I wanted was a sense of belonging.
I wanted to feel that I belonged in so many ways, authentically, from a gender perspective, authentically, from a human perspective. And part of that belonging was the need to find something that aligned with my purpose. So I came out and then thought, I'll go and get a job. So there's a huge shift, really.
I did the opposite, actually. I came out and started my own business, because at the time, in 2016, 2017, I couldn't find a job that I wanted. Again, you talk about being unemployable. I'd run a business for the last 30 or 35 years. Where do you apply for a role where your former title was business owner or running a business or. There was no easy, employable route at the time, but when I told the world, it was a kind of drunken moment, a bit of facebook, bit of prosecco, bit of truth serum, sort of thing. What I didn't realise at the time was that the biggest impact of that wasn't on me, but it was on my family. Because what had been a private secret, a private thing we had between us, suddenly I realised what my wife and my children were now publicly associated to a trans person.
Before, it was kind of a private thing. So suddenly my wife had her own shame, her own stigma, her own feeling. My daughter, my dad's trans, had to tell her friend sort of thing. So that was the thing I was really surprised at. It hadn't occurred to me in one slightest. I had this real wake up moment that actually it wasn't about me at this point. Now it was all about everybody else around me and the trauma they were going through.
I think that's right. I think during the five years that I was having private coming out, if you like, with my wife, it was easy there. My kids were very aware of what was going on without being told it was in front of their eyes. So there was an unsaid thing for a number of years. Eventually, we had conversations, but in the beginning, it was an unsaid thing, and then it became quite an easy piece. But at the point of professionally coming out, putting a post out on LinkedIn and telling the world in subsequent conversations and to clients and ex clients and everything else, I mean, that's a story in itself, where the ex clients then started to come to me and say, oh, I've got trans daughter and I've got a trans son. Can you help? And that's where my volunteering actually started from. My clients, when I ran my own business, they were bringing their own children to me, which was an interesting switch.
But you're quite right. My wife in particular, had to go through her own journey at that point, and it took her probably a couple of years to feel completely okay and completely comfortable in a public situation in so much a way that now she's quite proud of that and very openly identifies in that way. But we are three, four, three and a half years down the track from that point. But in the beginning, it was very difficult.
Yeah, we did it quite publicly. We did a channel four documentary, so it was hard for us to hide a lot of this. It was being broadcast on Channel Four on a Monday night in 2019. So that kind of created this crunch point where we had to start telling people, because in a few weeks time, it was all going to be everywhere. Because Marie was very nervous about telling her parents. I told my mum several years before, and that was quite emotional, but very supportive. But, yeah, I was quite surprised by my friends. And a saying I say, which sounds quite crazy, is that your friends are your friends because they're your friends.
The people who aren't your friends are no longer your friends, basically. So I was surprised by the friends and their reaction. It was almost like a little jolt in the spacetime continuum, and everyone sort of shook themselves out of it. Okay, fine. Okay, whatever. Because if anyone who doesn't know the history, I was national president of a man's club called the Roundtable. So a lot of my friends were through the roundtable movement, and there was obviously being a male only club and being national president of it kind of did disrupt a lot of people's thinking, so much so that, and we talked about belonging. I've lost the sense of belonging I had with that club because it's not for me.
And I go to some meetings because I'm invited as a past national president, past club chair, and all these kind of things. And I go there and I think, this isn't where I want to be. This feels uncomfortable. So I've lost the belonging I had. And it's not them, it's not at all them. It's all about me and what I want and what I need. So I've lost a sense of belonging. And I've drifted away considerably from old friends.
And it's not them, it is purely me, my needs and what fulfils me now. Did you have something similar because you're supercar racing, you were track days successful, probably spending far too much in bars that you shouldn't be in, having a.
Good time, spending far too much in bars that I shouldn't have been in was true to all intense purposes. I was an alcoholic during that period. A high functioning alcoholic, I have to say. But that was just a ridiculous thing. And I used the word ridiculous about some of the car stuff earlier on. I mean, it was all denial and masking and everything else. You look back at it now and it brings me shame thinking about it, actually, because I was denying myself through that denial. I was denying myself true authenticity.
But there are things I go back to now. It's like being in environments that's quite laddish now, or in situations that are quite atypical. Going back to a binary situation for a moment. Male environments, whether it's around cars or around football, or around heavy drinking or ladish behaviour. Literally, it's a fish out of water. And because I found my inner self and that sense of belonging, I just don't want to be there. So that shift of journey to authenticity, if you like, it was a long one, but when I found it, it definitely has put me in places. It makes me realise now that there are lots of things that I did that I clearly didn't really want to be in or be around or be part of, or be involved with.
But I was doing it again, going back to doing what I was supposed to do. And the 2.4 kids and societal norms and everything else.
You mentioned that lockdown gave you the mental capacity to sort of explore the space in your head to explore things. And one of the things I found throughout my life, I look at it from similar sort of age. Six, seven, eight years old. There was always this societal, you call it societal expectation. You're in school, you've got to get your exams, you got to get your exams, you got to go to college, you got to go to university, whatever. I ended up joining the ref from school. But there was always this kind of trajectory that you get on, this life expectation. And if you didn't, then you were one of those weird people that didn't succeed or you were rogue.
So I think I did that and I followed the must get married, must have kids, must have the picket fence, must have the four bedroom detached and have the biggest car I could afford and spend far too much and being very ladish. And I think what happened to me was I got to my mid forty s and I hit the stop button. It was kind of like, hang on a minute. My it career is not something I really wanted to do. I don't know how I got into it. I'm good at it, but I don't enjoy it. It's not something that buzzes me. And of course that time there, around my mid 40s, you start to question your life anyway, don't you? And I think it would have been cheaper to get Harley Davidson and cruise across America in leathers than it would be to transition and give up everything.
I gave up, but I think I did a reboot. I literally rebooted everything. My career, my identity. The only thing that is actually the same now are my wife and family. 99% of everything else is different. Don't live in the same house, we don't have the same cars, we don't have the same circle of friends. Everything is rebooted. And I think you talk about unfailing authenticity.
It's allowed me to rebuild a life that resonates rather than the life that was making me resonate, if you like. My life is now humming to my inner beat rather than me resonating to.
The outer beat, if you like.
I think that's probably the difference. It's now my life I've got control over.
And I completely relate. I love the analogy of the reboot. Fundamentally, that's what's happened. We still do live in the same house, ironically, but everything else is rebooted. And I went through that whole thing of pressing the stop button as you described it, and everything happened at that moment, and it happened quick, within a really short period of time. So it's almost like I spent the time prior to that preparing to somehow bring it together or creating some sort of mental space to allow that to happen. And I think I said it earlier on, lockdown gave me the pause.
To.
First of all, find the brain space to act. But it also allowed me then, because of course, lockdown didn't just happen for a couple of months. It happened after I came out to my family and continued for some time after that, it allowed brain space for others to adjust so they weren't running their lives at 90 miles an hour. So those that came along and are still on the journey with us kind of had the opportunity to explore and join in and see the world for what it was for us and experience that and go, actually, this is kind of the same, but different. And those friends and family are, as you say, still with us. But the reboot around us happened on so many levels and so fast.
Quite empowering, though, isn't it?
Hugely empowering. I can't tell you now how I find it difficult to describe at the moment. I've been through this period over the last month or two, trying to find words to describe it simply. And I'm struggling, if I'm honest, but the empowerment from it connected with some of my drive and passion and enthusiasm, entrepreneurial spirit that's always been there in my life, but connecting the empowerment with that stuff, I'm now the best me I can be. Whereas before, it wasn't all of me. I struggle to put that in as few words as possible, but that's kind of how it is.
That's beautiful. That's really beautiful. It so resonates. It's a connection of all the dots, isn't it? Everything clicks into place. And I always talk about this, the Japanese saying icky guy, which is when you have all those four elements click into place and the last one is what resonates, that you find that passion and then everything clicks into place. I felt I was always lacking that bit. I was good at something, I earned money at it, the world needed it, but I never found me in there. I think once you line it all up, suddenly that's where the magic happens.
My favourite poem is Marianne Williamson one. It talks about that it's our darkness. That's our darkness and our fears, which is our greatest. It's our light that we're most afraid of. It's not our darkness. And that's true, actually. I focus for so long on kind of all the things that I kind of captured in that darkness. But actually, once you connect those dots, everything becomes so much more enthralling.
Happy. Yes. And that in itself is quite a powerful emotion. And you mix that in with other things. I literally now feel capable of moving things that I never felt I could move or do or achieve, or conversations, even on a human level, that I never thought I could do before. So the bandwidth that I have from an emotional intelligence is far greater than ever was. But the bandwidth I have on an IQ perspective has somehow become more powerful as a result, because the emotion in there is allowing me to explore things that I didn't see before. It's really hard to capture, but it's amazing indeed.
Yes. Beautiful. Again. So here we are, the end of 2023, at the end of a pretty tough year for trans, nonbinary, gender diverse individuals. From a media perspective, from the government perspective, from a global perspective. It's getting worse, isn't it?
And I think it will in 2024, if I'm honest, because there's inevitably going to be an election in the UK. Obviously, the US election engine is warming up, so I think it will increase. It's an interesting one, Jo, because to some degree, I've stayed away from being actively involved in conversations about the media spin and hatred, but also the media lens broadly on trans issues. Predominantly because I just didn't want to get associated with being part of the conversation. I've always had the view that I can make a difference in individual ways, which is why I do my volunteering and my mentoring work with young adults, because I can make a difference there. And next year, I think it's going to be more challenging. It's never been something I wanted to stray into. I've never really wanted to be the kind of noisy, vocal person.
Although I've got the opinions, I must say, I do have the opinions, but I've always wanted to be. I guess it's my marketing head, I put it on and think from a personal brand perspective, do I want to be part of that conversation? And privately, I am very much part of that conversation. But publicly, I very rarely am. And there are some things that annoy me. I mean, the things that do annoy me, and I will talk about here is the lack of common sense. I read something the other day, maybe even been yesterday, about how trans chess players are now being treated in the same way as trans athletes. And I look at that and I think, okay, so we can have a conversation about the trans athlete thing, and that can go whichever way you want that to go. But then you start thinking about trans chess players and the world's gone mad.
Because there are sports, and I don't know why chess is not one of them. But there are definitely sports, and equestrian sports is one of them, where gender doesn't create a different class of competition, that you compete together, and there is no advantage or disadvantage from that in whatever way you choose to look at it. But how can someone that is trans have an advantage over another chess player? Of any other gender identity in a sport that's got no physical attributes to it, yet it becomes a story in the media just because it continues. This whole thing about trans in sport, it's kind of like, okay, let's make it make sense, please, let's just find something, find a place that delivers some common sense into the conversation. And the chess one was just like.
Oh, please, there's been a couple like that, hasn't it? And it was chess and something else recently where it just doesn't make sense at all. But then you look at ice hockey, and ice Hockey has come up with some very pragmatic, very simple rules where your transiness or your trans history isn't deciding fact. It's all based on risk, and I'm all in favour of analysing risk for participants and also risk of fairness. Sport at elite level has to have a perception of fairness because there's money involved, there's betting, there's competitions. So you have to believe there's fairness. But there's lots of inequity in sport anyway, around sponsorship, around money, around privilege. And one's gender identity is just part of that mix of fairness which we latch onto without latching onto the other inequities in society. You'd think that the 1%, 2% of the population that are trans nonbinary would be the majority, the way we're subverting the entire society and destroying family values and the fabric ahead of all the other things.
We've had politicians lying, we've got.
Countless.
Wars going on around the world, but yet trans people seem to be the ones that are the diverse from me tactic at the moment, aren't we?
Yes. And it's a potato, a hot potato, that seems to get passed around a lot. And it's something that I guess is part of the journey of acceptance in ten years time, probably look back and it'll just be part of history. And I'm sure that will be the case because you look at historical kind of periods of acceptance, and that's kind of how it's always played out. There's always been this time where it's been tumultuous and difficult and challenging and kind of buoyant, and then it calms down, then there's a piece of revisionism that happens, and then people look back and it's all norm kind of proceeds. And I do think in ten years time, that is where we will be at, but we're in the middle of it right now. And the bit that makes me sad actually, is that it becomes the most important topic of the day for some people, some media outlets, some newspapers, some tv stations and such like. Yet actually, there are far more important things going on in the world.
There are far more important challenges in the economy and in health care and in education and in everything else. Yet this is a story that everyone keeps talking about. It's almost like you use the word distraction, and I think that's it. If we keep it bubbling, then it means we don't have to have the tough conversations about the things that really matter. And the things that really matter are the economy, education, health care. But actually, if we kick the stuff around about migrants and trans people, then we can keep the headlines there and we don't have to have those tough conversations.
Just bury the real news under the fake news, isn't it, and create these political footballs. But as you say, I think 2024, we got the US elections where it would seem that Trump is now the favourite, apparently.
Allegedly.
That's hoping you listen back to this episode in a year's time that that wasn't the case. But that seems to be the trajectory at the moment. And the political football this year for the UK is likely to be. Trans people are likely to be dead centre. I'm going to say we, as we were in the Tory legit competition last summer, the summer before, where it was a race to be the most transphobic, got the vote or something. I think we're going to end up in that same hot potato political football sphere again. And everyone's going to be posturing on how to be the most transphobic or the most anti trans. They can be throw us under the bus as much as they can in order to create some sort of wedge issue in society.
That's why I'm determined to be visible, because by being visible, you creates. You challenge the myth that trans people are all of a certain type, or they're all. I mean, obviously, at the moment, every mention of trans is that they're somebody that's been held up in court for a physical assault on another female, and that person is identified as being trans as a way of getting out of whether that's true or not. In their case, the media spin that and it's like they've got this avatar of a trans person and every time that they mention it, they've got to be a rapist, they've got to be a person that's been held up on some sort of charge in court, or they've done something particularly wrong. But of course, that's kind of a smear thing. So my determination is to become visible and to create a positive role model for others, but to do it in a way that's not shouty and not always focused on trans issues, but to do it in a way that's about here is someone leading a normal life, wanting to make a difference and to be a role model. Role model is a strange word, but be a visible person, let's call it that. That challenges that avatar that seems to drop itself into the media all the time.
Yes, we can all close your eyes, think of a trans person. We all have this media infused, rocky horror type image in our heads that media keep playing on. And I think that's what keeps, as you say, keeps getting dropped in, if not literally, figuratively or descriptively, is the language that's being reinforced. And you're a marketing specialist and you have these common themes of threads you pull to get your message across. And that's the negative brand that trans people have.
It is, I think they've definitely got this playbook around it and who's driving that playbook is tough to find. But yeah, I still will continue throughout 2024 to have my own playbook, which is that I will not be drawn into debate or anything about that subject. It annoys me massively. But the way that I'm choosing to make a difference is to deal, is to work with individuals and to be visible as a normal human being.
I concur. I definitely concur with that. I have a similar approach where.
I.
I want to do it through education, through engagement, through conversations, through being the best me I can be. And that's my motivation. I'm not looking to. I'd like nothing more than to be Jo the EDI specialist, Jo the speaker who just happens to be trans rather than trans being by raise on Detroit, if you like. I think I've probably got another couple of years before I want to just hide in the background and just get on with life. There's hope that you say in a couple of years time, the pressure changes, the direction changes, there'll be something else and society will move on. And much like being queer in the was, it's becoming normalised. We start to not see being gay or being black, because it wasn't so long ago that being black was the same language as being used.
And that's my point about in ten years time going that we'll have that period of revisionism, and then it will be that period of acceptance and the examples you gave then or given then are ones where that's happened and we've kind of come through that and that's where we are. And I believe in ten years we'll be there with this. But it's close to home, obviously, and it was close to home for millions of others while those events were happening in the.
Was going to leave it there. I think that's been a fantastic conversation and it's been really fascinating talking to you and hearing your story. And we talked about authenticity, we talked about vulnerability, and you've been both authentic and vulnerable. And I really appreciate your openness and candle around yourself, your life, your family, which I know isn't easy because you're always taking a piece of yourself and giving it to somebody else, and you've only got so many spoons and so many pieces of you you can give. And I feel quite honoured that you've come here today and shared that if people want to get in contact with you as a human being, where's the best place to track you down?
The best place. And the place I hang out is on LinkedIn, so you'll always find me on LinkedIn. And on LinkedIn I am very open about authenticity, leadership, marketing, but also gender issues when they're relevant and my own story, so give a quite rounded view of life on LinkedIn. I'm not someone that kind of has high bias towards just talking about things that are professional, talking about things on one particular topic. So it is my hangout space for social media. I've kind of not deleted, but I've stopped using the other platform. So LinkedIn is my preferred hangout space for sure. And it's definitely the best place that people can get in contact with me or follow me or create connection.
Fabulous. Fabulous. I know I follow you, and I'm sure you follow me, and I see a lot of what you're posting, and I probably remember those early posts when you first were open about yourself, first started talking about it. So, yeah, it's been an honour to not only speak to you today, but also follow. And I hate this word journey. Journey is such a crass word for me sometimes, but follow your life and how you've evolved yourself and it's been an amazing privilege.
Yeah, I think it's just picking up at the point of journey. I mean, people overuse the word journey of a journey for everything. But I love the phrase journey because I think we're all on a journey, no matter what it is, we're all on a journey of some form, right?
Yeah, I just find it with unprecedented, unprecedented. And journey is kind of like, when are things going to become precedented again? That's what I want to know.
There's definitely an overused term, but it's the meanderings of life either way.
I agree. I agree. Well, thank you, Lee. And thank you to you, the listener who's tuned in, who's stayed with us to the end, and I really appreciate your time. Hopefully, I'm sure you have got something out today. There's so much there to take inspiration from. If you're not already subscribed, please do subscribe and follow this podcast on iTunes or Spotify wherever you consume your podcasts. Search for inclusion bytes as B-I-T-E-S share the love.
Tell your colleagues, tell your friends. Reshare this when it's on LinkedIn or other platforms. I've got a number of other exciting guests lined up. I'm sure you'd be equally inspired off, and I've had a whole 95 others. If you haven't listened to this podcast before, then please do listen to the back issues. And of course, I'd love you to be a guest as well if you have something to say. So email me at jo.lockwood@seechangehappen.co.uk.
Let me know. Talk to me. How can we improve? And finally, my name is Joanne Lockwood. It has been an absolute pleasure to host this podcast for you today.
Catch you next time. Bye.
Also generated
More from this recording
🔖 Titles
Lee Gilbert's Journey to Authenticity and Inclusion
Overcoming Challenges: Lee Gilbert's Gender Transition and Advocacy
Lee Gilbert on Embracing Authenticity and Changing Gender Perceptions
Navigating Gender Transition: Lee Gilbert's Story of Resilience and Empowerment
A Candid Conversation with Lee Gilbert: Navigating Gender Identity and Inclusion
The Inspirational Journey of Lee Gilbert: From Shame to Authenticity and Advocacy
Unveiling Authenticity: Lee Gilbert's Personal Journey of Gender Transition and Advocacy
Lee Gilbert's Transformation: Embracing Authenticity and Amplifying Inclusion
Shifting Perspectives: Lee Gilbert's Reflections on Gender Identity, Inclusion, and Advocacy
Finding Belonging: Lee Gilbert's Journey to Authenticity and Empowerment
ℹ️ Introduction
Welcome to The Inclusion Bites Podcast, where we delve into the complexities of authenticity and belonging. In today's episode, our host, Joanne Lockwood, sits down with the incredible Lee Gilbert, a courageous individual who has embarked on a deeply personal journey of gender transition. Lee candidly shares her experiences, from the challenges and mental health issues she faced in the 1980s and 1990s due to the lack of information and role models for transgender individuals, to her inspiring work as a marketing leader and volunteer mentor and counsellor for adults with gender dysphoria. Join us as we explore Lee's profound insight into authenticity, vulnerability, and the transformative power of living as one's true self.
📚 Timestamped overview
00:00 Coming out as transgender, prioritising authenticity over success.
04:35 Experienced entrepreneur overcame fraud, found authenticity, and happiness.
07:31 Lack of information led to personal struggles, now mentoring others. No role models, little information available.
12:39 Navigating personal growth in a society with lengthy identity clinic wait times.
16:20 Lockdown allowed me to come out in 2020 and deal with shame.
19:11 Shame from success, public persona, and change.
22:05 Coming out to wife, family, and career - big leaps.
26:14 Quietly lived as transgender, then came out publicly, led to voluntary work with trans children.
28:35 Surprised by reaction to leaving male-only club presidency.
32:40 Realized traditional life not fulfilling, considering major change.
34:58 Lockdown allowed time for personal and family adjustments, and a chance to explore and understand new perspectives.
39:33 Anticipates increased political activity, avoids media controversy, prefers making impact through personal efforts.
43:13 Discussion of fairness in sports, including gender identity.
44:45 The journey of acceptance in the midst of passing controversy, to be seen as part of history, overshadowed by more important world issues.
47:46 Being visible as positive trans role model challenging media stereotypes.
52:57 LinkedIn is my preferred space for meaningful conversations and connection.
55:26 Encourage sharing, upcoming guests, past episodes, and potential guest submissions. Contact jo.lockwood@seechangehappen.co.uk.
📚 Timestamped overview
00:00 Transition to authenticity after decades of acting.
04:35 Entrepreneurial journey, success, finding true happiness.
07:31 Void of information, no role models, advocate.
12:39 Navigating identity alone without societal pressures.
16:20 Lockdown gave me time to come out.
19:11 Public success masked personal feelings of shame.
22:05 Coming out, risking career: three big leaps.
26:14 Quietly navigated coming out, then embraced it.
28:35 Surprised by friends' reaction to club membership.
32:40 Reassessing midlife priorities, questioning career and life.
34:58 Lockdown allowed space for personal growth.
39:33 Predicts increased political activity in UK and US.
43:13 Elite sports must consider fairness and inclusivity.
44:45 Acceptance journey of hot potato in history.
47:46 Visibility challenges harmful trans stereotypes and narratives.
52:57 LinkedIn: My preferred space for professional networking.
55:26 Spread the word, new guests coming soon.
Episode Tags
authenticity, vulnerability, transgender inclusion, gender identity, societal pressure, personal transformation, leadership, authenticity struggles, gender terminology, societal expectations
A Subtitle - A Single Sentence describing this episode
Join Joanne Lockwood and Lee Gilbert as they delve into Lee's transformative journey, discussing the challenges she faced during her gender transition and her views on authenticity and inclusion.
Episode Summary with Intro, Key Points and a Takeaway
In this episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast, host Joanne Lockwood invites Lee Gilbert to share her deeply personal journey towards authenticity as a transgender individual. Lee candidly reflects on the challenges she faced and her transformative experience, providing valuable insights into the broader struggle for inclusion and belonging.
The episode begins with both Joanne and Lee opening up about the impact of lockdown, delving into the introspective opportunities it offered and the pressure to conform to societal expectations. Lee describes her profound experience during the night of the Paris-Brussels terrorist attack, which sparked a series of major leaps in her life, including coming out to her wife, family, and in her professional life.
The discussion touches on Lee's struggle with authenticity and her gender identity, along with her battles with mental health issues resulting from the lack of information and role models for transgender individuals in the 1980s and 1990s. Despite these challenges, Lee found herself on a journey towards true belonging and authenticity, eventually becoming a mentor and advocate for young individuals facing similar experiences.
Throughout the episode, Joanne and Lee delve into the evolution of gender terminology, societal pressure to conform to binary norms, and the importance of allowing individuals to explore and understand their gender identity without societal pressure. They express their hope for increased acceptance of transgender individuals in the future, aiming to change perceptions through visibility and positive role modelling.
The key takeaway from this episode is the powerful message of embracing vulnerability and authenticity, as well as the importance of creating a more inclusive society where individuals can truly be themselves. Joanne and Lee's conversation provides an insightful and inspiring exploration of the journey towards living authentically, challenging societal norms, and advocating for greater acceptance. Tune in to hear Lee's impactful story and gain valuable perspectives on inclusion and belonging.
💬 Keywords
lockdown impact, introspection, societal expectations, authenticity, career changes, personal transformation, empowerment, trans issues, nonbinary individuals, media portrayal, societal pressure, Paris-Brussels terrorist attack, coming out, high functioning alcoholic, personal struggles, mental health, gender dysphoria, authenticity, mentorship, vulnerability, LinkedIn, leadership, marketing, gender identity, inclusion, personal journeys, transgender participation in sports, media portrayal, visibility, gender terminology, societal pressure
💡 Speaker bios
Lee Gilbert is a British individual who went through a transformative journey to embrace their authentic self. After 40 years of living a life that didn't feel true to who they were, Lee came out as transgender in 2020. Before that, they had felt like they were playing a role, pretending to be someone they weren't, and excelling at it. Despite the outward appearance of success and happiness, Lee knew they were living a life that wasn't authentic to them. Now, they are proud to live as their true self and share their story with others.
❇️ Key topics and bullets
Journey to Authenticity
Impact of lockdown on personal introspection
Pressure to conform to societal expectations
Realization of living inauthentically
Career changes and personal transformations for authenticity
Challenges Faced by Trans and Nonbinary Individuals
Media and societal portrayal
Selective engagement in discussions about transgender issues
Personal experiences as positive role models
Personal Transformation Experiences
Lee Gilbert's profound experience during the Paris-Brussels terrorist attack
Three major leaps in Lee Gilbert's life
Joanne Lockwood's career change after coming out as trans
Struggles and Triumphs
Challenges with family and friends after coming out
Sense of loss of belonging in certain circles
Overcoming struggles and finding belonging through authenticity
Mentoring and Advocacy
Mentoring young adults going through similar gender identity journeys
Advocacy for more positive information about gender identity and inclusion
Authenticity and Vulnerability
Lee Gilbert's leadership style as an authentic and vulnerable leader
Discussions about personal experiences and the concept of personal journeys
Advocacy and Visibility
Using LinkedIn to openly discuss authenticity, leadership, marketing, and gender issues
Desiring to be positive role models and change perceptions through visibility
Gender Identity and Societal Pressure
Evolution of gender terminology
Shame and fear associated with coming out and transitioning
Embracing vulnerability and authenticity
Inclusion and Acceptance
Allowing individuals to question and figure out their gender identity without societal pressure
Hoping for increased acceptance of transgender individuals in the future
The Hook
"Ever felt like something's missing in your journey to authenticity? Wait 'til you hear about this mind-blowing transformation!"
"Discover the powerful journey towards living authentically, and how it could change your perspective forever..."
"Curious about the key to unlocking your true self? Buckle up for a journey you won't forget."
"Unveil the secret to embracing your authenticity in the face of societal pressures, and find out how it could impact your own life..."
"Ready for a fresh perspective on navigating societal norms and finding your true north? Don't miss out on this eye-opening podcast episode..."
🎬 Reel script
"Welcome to The Inclusion Bites Podcast, where we dive deep into the power of authenticity and belonging. In our latest episode, we had the privilege of hearing from the incredible Lee Gilbert, who shared her inspiring journey of embracing her true gender identity. She discussed the challenges, the fear, and the ultimate empowerment that came with living authentically. Lee's story is a testament to the resilience and strength of the human spirit. Join us as we continue to celebrate authenticity and champion inclusion. Subscribe now for more enlightening conversations and be part of our inclusive community."
🗞️ Newsletter
Subject: The Inclusion Bites Podcast: Embracing Authenticity and Overcoming Challenges
Dear Inclusion Champions,
In the latest episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast, we delved into the deeply personal and empowering journey of our guest, Lee Gilbert. Lee candidly shared her experiences, facing and overcoming the challenges associated with gender identity and authenticity. Her story is a testament to resilience and the pursuit of true belonging.
During the episode, Lee recounted the struggles she faced during her gender transition, and the impact it had on her personal and professional life. Her journey from a period of shame to embracing vulnerability and authenticity is both inspiring and thought-provoking.
Lee's courage in sharing her story serves as a powerful reminder of the importance of allowing individuals to question and explore their gender identity without societal pressure. Her advocacy for more open and positive information about gender identity and inclusion is a call to action for us all to create a more welcoming and accepting world.
If you haven't already, be sure to tune in to this compelling episode of the podcast to hear Lee's story in her own words. We invite you to join the conversation about authenticity, vulnerability, and the power of personal journeys.
As always, we welcome your feedback and suggestions for future episodes. If you or someone you know would like to be a guest on the podcast, please get in touch with us via email. Let's keep the dialogue on inclusion and belonging going strong.
Thank you for your continued support, and remember, authenticity is the key to true inclusion.
Warm regards,
Joanne Lockwood
Host of The Inclusion Bites Podcast
🧵 Tweet thread
🌟 Let's talk about Lee Gilbert, a remarkable individual who has shown incredible resilience and authenticity in their gender transition journey. 🏳️⚧️
1/ Lee faced immense challenges during their gender transition, including societal pressure to conform to binary norms and the fear of the unknown. The shame and fear associated with coming out and transitioning were significant obstacles to overcome.
2/ Despite these challenges, Lee bravely embraced vulnerability and authenticity, ultimately finding the courage to live as their true self. This journey from shame to self-acceptance is truly inspiring and reflects their incredible strength.
3/ Lee's experience highlights the importance of allowing individuals to question and figure out their gender identity without societal pressure. It's crucial to create spaces where everyone feels supported and empowered to embrace their authentic selves.
4/ Furthermore, Lee's advocacy for more open and positive information about gender identity and inclusion is invaluable. By mentoring young adults and advocating for positive representation, they are making a meaningful impact and challenging harmful stereotypes.
5/ Let's celebrate Lee Gilbert's courage and resilience in sharing their journey. Their openness and authenticity serve as a beacon of hope and empowerment for others facing similar challenges. 🌈 #Authenticity #GenderJourney #InclusionMatters
Share this thread to spread awareness and support for individuals navigating their gender identities with courage and resilience! 🌟
Guest's content for their marketing
Hello, everyone,
I am truly grateful for the opportunity to be a guest on The Inclusion Bites Podcast, hosted by the incredible Joanne Lockwood. Our conversation delved deep into the concept of authenticity, vulnerability, and the challenges of sharing personal experiences, particularly in the context of gender identity and inclusion.
During the podcast, I had the chance to share my personal journey of transitioning and embracing my true self. We discussed the struggles and mental health issues I faced due to the lack of information and role models for transgender individuals in the 1980s and 1990s. From the fear of the unknown to societal pressure to conform to binary norms, we explored the hurdles I encountered on my path to authenticity.
One of the key highlights of the podcast was our conversation about the evolution of gender terminology and the pressing need to create visibility and positive role models for transgender individuals. We critiqued the negative portrayal of transgender individuals in the media and expressed our shared aspiration to effect change through visibility rather than engaging in debates.
I also had the opportunity to discuss how I found a sense of belonging and authenticity after significant personal struggles and challenges. We covered my journey from a period of shame to embracing vulnerability and authenticity.
In addition, we delved into the issue of transgender participation in sports and the disproportionate attention on transgender issues in the media. By drawing parallels with the normalization of being queer or being black in the past, we expressed our hope for increased acceptance of transgender individuals in the future.
The Inclusion Bites Podcast provided a platform to amplify important conversations about gender identity, inclusion, and belonging. I am grateful for the chance to participate in such meaningful dialogue and contribute to the ongoing narrative of acceptance and understanding.
Thank you, Joanne Lockwood, for facilitating this impactful conversation and for your commitment to fostering an inclusive space for such crucial discussions.
Warm regards,
[Guest's Name]
Questions Asked that were insightful
During the interview, Lee Gilbert spoke about the challenges and triumphs of her gender transition, which could indeed be turned into a series of FAQs for our audience. Some potential questions could include:
How did Lee Gilbert navigate the challenges of coming out to her wife, family, and professionally?
What strategies did Lee Gilbert use to find a sense of belonging and authenticity during her transition and beyond?
What role did Lee Gilbert's experience during the night of the Paris-Brussels terrorist attack play in her journey towards authenticity?
How did Lee Gilbert find the courage to embrace vulnerability and share her personal experiences as a transgender individual?
What advice does Lee Gilbert have for individuals struggling with shame and fear related to gender identity and transitioning?
How has Lee Gilbert's journey from shame to authenticity influenced her approach to mentoring and advocating for transgender individuals?
What role does Lee Gilbert see for positive role models in changing perceptions of transgender individuals in society?
These questions could provide valuable insight and personal experiences for our audience while promoting understanding and inclusion.
Pain Points and Challenges
The podcast episode "Authenticity Unveiled" delves into the deeply personal and emotional journey of Lee Gilbert as she discusses the challenges she faced during her gender transition. Throughout the episode, both Joanne Lockwood and Lee Gilbert openly share their experiences and the pain points they encountered, shedding light on the following issues:
Lack of information and role models in the 1980s and 1990s: Lee Gilbert faced mental health issues and a sense of isolation due to the dearth of information and supportive role models for transgender individuals during her formative years. This highlights the need for increased visibility and positive representation of transgender individuals in media and society, providing guidance and support to those navigating their gender identity.
Content Response:
In the wake of discussions about the challenges Lee Gilbert experienced, the episode demonstrates the critical importance of increased visibility and positive representation of transgender individuals. This highlights the necessity to create content that showcases diverse transgender experiences and role models, breaking barriers and fostering a sense of community for those in search of guidance and support.
Impact on family and social circles: Both speakers acknowledge the emotional strain of the challenges they faced with their families and friends after coming out. Lee Gilbert mentions the loss of belonging in certain circles, underscoring the need for greater understanding and acceptance within social settings.
Content Response:
The episode emphasises the complexities and emotional challenges that arise from the impact on family and social circles, prompting the creation of content that addresses the importance of empathy, understanding, and support within familial and social environments. This content could offer insights and strategies for individuals and families navigating the process of understanding and accepting a loved one's gender transition.
Fear and societal pressure: Lee Gilbert shares her journey from a period of shame to embracing vulnerability and authenticity, highlighting the immense fear and societal expectations surrounding coming out and transitioning. This underscores the need to create a more inclusive and affirming environment for individuals questioning and exploring their gender identity.
Content Response:
In response to the discussion on fear and societal pressure, content could focus on promoting understanding and empathy, challenging societal expectations, and creating affirming spaces that provide support and safety for individuals navigating their gender identity. This could include personal narratives, resources for self-discovery, and guidance on creating inclusive communities.
By addressing these pain points and challenges, the content can serve as a powerful instrument in fostering greater understanding, empathy, and inclusivity for individuals navigating their gender identity and experiences.
Blog article based on the episode
Title: Unveiling Authenticity: Overcoming Challenges and Embracing Gender Identity
Opening Hook:
In a world where societal norms often dictate who we should be, the journey to authentic self-discovery can be fraught with challenges. The impact of conforming to these expectations takes its toll, leading to feelings of being a stranger in one's own life. Today, inspired by the powerful insights shared in "Authenticity Unveiled," a recent episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast featuring Lee Gilbert, we explore the journey of embracing authenticity and overcoming the challenges of gender identity.
Problem:
The episode delves into the personal struggles and triumphs of Lee Gilbert as she navigated the challenges of transitioning to her true gender identity. Throughout the conversation, Lee courageously shared the emotional and mental toll of conforming to societal expectations and the transformative power of embracing authenticity. She spoke candidly about her experiences of shame, fear, and the lack of information and role models for transgender individuals in the 1980s and 1990s. Lee's journey reflects the pain and confusion faced by many individuals who struggle to embrace their true selves amidst societal pressures and lack of understanding.
Actionable Items:
Self-Reflection and Self-Acceptance: Inspired by Lee's journey, take time for introspection to understand your own authentic self. Consider the aspects of your life where societal expectations may be holding you back, and reflect on the steps you can take to embrace your true identity.
Advocacy and Support: Enhance understanding and support for transgender individuals within your personal and professional circles. Engage in conversations about gender identity, share knowledge, and advocate for inclusive spaces to foster support and belonging for all individuals.
Visibility and Positive Role Modeling: Recognize the power of visibility and positive representation. By being open about gender identity and embracing authenticity, individuals like Lee Gilbert challenge stereotypes and inspire others to embrace their true selves. Consider how you can contribute to positive representation in your own community and spheres of influence.
Call to Action:
Let's join forces to break the barriers of societal norms and celebrate the uniqueness and diversity of individuals. Engage with The Inclusion Bites Podcast for more insightful conversations on inclusion and belonging. Share your own journey towards authenticity and inspire others to embrace their true selves. Together, we can create a world where everyone feels empowered to live authentically and inclusively.
In conclusion, Lee Gilbert's journey, as discussed in "Authenticity Unveiled," serves as a powerful reminder of the importance of authenticity and the challenges associated with embracing gender identity in a society that often imposes limiting norms. The podcast episode inspires action towards greater understanding, support, and inclusivity for all individuals. Let's take the first step towards a more inclusive world by supporting and celebrating the authentic journeys of individuals like Lee Gilbert.
The standout line from this episode
"The fear of the unknown and societal expectations were my constant companions."
❓ Questions
Lee, you mentioned that you faced challenges and mental health issues due to the lack of information and role models for transgender individuals in the 1980s and 1990s. How do you think the situation has changed today for those exploring their gender identity?
Joanne and Lee, could you share some insights on your personal journeys with regards to questions about your own gender identity and how societal pressure played a role in your experiences?
Lee, you mentioned that you found a need for belonging and authenticity, which led to major shifts in your life. How did you navigate the challenges of finding your true self amidst societal pressures and expectations?
Lee, you discussed the Paris-Brussels terrorist attack, and how it transformed aspects of your life. Can you share more about how this event contributed to your journey of authenticity?
Joanne, after coming out as trans and facing difficulty finding suitable employment, you started your own business. How has this shift impacted your sense of authenticity and belonging?
Joanne and Lee, both of you discussed the challenges faced with family and friends after coming out, as well as the loss of belonging in certain circles. How have you both found ways to establish new circles and regain a sense of belonging after these experiences?
Lee, you admitted to being a high functioning alcoholic during a period of denial and masking your true self. How did you realise the need for authenticity, and how did this realisation affect your path to recovery and self-acceptance?
Both speakers have found and accepted their authentic selves after significant personal struggles. Can you share more about this transformation and how it has impacted your lives?
Lee, you mentor young adults going through similar journeys and advocate for more open and positive information about gender identity and inclusion. What are some key messages you aim to impart through your mentoring and advocacy work?
Joanne and Lee, you both discussed the challenges of sharing personal experiences and the concept of personal journeys. Can you share more about the importance of authenticity and vulnerability in fostering inclusion and belonging in today's society?
FAQs from the Episode
FAQ: Embracing Authenticity and Navigating Gender Identity
What challenges did Lee Gilbert face during her gender transition?
During her gender transition, Lee Gilbert faced challenges such as societal pressure to conform to binary norms, the fear of the unknown, and the lack of information and role models for transgender individuals. She also encountered mental health issues due to the difficulties she experienced in the 1980s and 1990s.How did Lee Gilbert navigate the pressure to conform to societal gender expectations?
Lee Gilbert navigated the pressure to conform by embracing vulnerability and authenticity. She found the courage to question her gender identity and transition despite societal expectations.What motivated Lee Gilbert to share her personal experiences and become a mentor for transgender individuals?
Motivated by her own struggles and the lack of positive information about gender identity, Lee Gilbert became a mentor for transgender individuals to provide support and guidance to young adults going through similar journeys.How does Lee Gilbert advocate for gender inclusion and authenticity?
Lee Gilbert actively engages in discussions about gender issues, leadership, and authenticity on platforms such as LinkedIn. Her open discussions aim to promote gender inclusion and provide positive role models for others.What advice does Lee Gilbert offer to individuals questioning their gender identity?
Lee Gilbert encourages individuals to allow themselves the space to question and figure out their gender identity without societal pressure. She emphasizes the importance of embracing vulnerability and seeking support from positive role models.How does Lee Gilbert hope to change perceptions of transgender individuals?
Lee Gilbert and her co-host, Joanne Lockwood, hope to change perceptions by being visible and positive role models rather than engaging in debates. They aim to increase acceptance of transgender individuals in the future.How can individuals struggling with their gender identity find support and guidance?
Individuals struggling with their gender identity can seek support and guidance from mentors, communities, and mental health professionals. They can also engage with positive role models in platforms like LinkedIn and other inclusive spaces.What does Lee Gilbert host, Joanne Lockwood, hope for the future of transgender inclusion?
Joanne Lockwood and Lee Gilbert both hope for increased acceptance of transgender individuals in the future, drawing parallels with the normalization of being queer or being black in the past.
These responses provide insight into Lee Gilbert's journey, challenges, advocacy, and aspirations related to gender transition and inclusion.
Tell me more about the guest and their views
On the "Authenticity Unveiled" episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast, guest Lee Gilbert opens up about the challenges she faced during her gender transition and shares her views on authenticity and inclusion. Lee describes herself as an authentic leader comfortable with being vulnerable, and she is a marketing leader and volunteer mentor and counsellor for adults with gender dysphoria. After struggling with authenticity and her gender identity for many years, she finally started living authentically in 2020.
Lee also discusses the mental health issues and challenges she faced due to the lack of information and role models for transgender individuals in the 1980s and 1990s. Now, she mentors young adults going through similar journeys and advocates for more open and positive information about gender identity and inclusion.
During the episode, Lee shares her personal experiences with shame and fear associated with coming out and transitioning. She candidly talks about her journey from a period of shame to embracing vulnerability and authenticity, with a focus on the fear of the unknown and societal expectations. Lee's perspective provides valuable insights into the complexities and struggles faced by transgender individuals, as well as the importance of allowing individuals to question and figure out their gender identity without societal pressure.
For further insights into Lee's experiences and views, be sure to listen to the "Authenticity Unveiled" episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast.
Ideas for Future Training and Workshops based on this Episode
In response to this episode, future training and workshops on inclusion and authenticity could focus on the following topics:
Understanding Trans and Nonbinary Experiences: A workshop that delves into the experiences of transgender and nonbinary individuals, exploring their challenges, triumphs, and the societal pressures they face.
Embracing Authentic Leadership: Training sessions that explore the concept of authentic leadership, vulnerability, and the power of embracing one's true self in professional settings.
Overcoming Identity Shame and Fear: Workshops that provide a safe space for individuals to explore and address any shame and fear associated with their gender identity, helping them embrace vulnerability and authenticity.
Media Representation and Positive Role Modelling: Training on the importance of positive and inclusive representation of transgender individuals in the media, and how individuals and organizations can be positive role models for authenticity.
Navigating Gender Terminology and Norms: Workshops that facilitate discussions on evolving gender terminologies and societal expectations, aiming to create a more inclusive and understanding environment.
These ideas could provide valuable learning opportunities for organizations and individuals looking to foster a more inclusive and authentic environment.
🪡 Threads by Instagram
Post 1:
🎙️ Join me on The Inclusion Bites Podcast as Lee Gilbert shares her incredible journey of gender transition, embracing authenticity and finding belonging. A powerful discussion on inclusion and identity!
Post 2:
🌟 Lee Gilbert's inspiring account of grappling with societal norms, shame, and fear during her gender transition is a must-listen. Real, raw, and enlightening.
Post 3:
🔊 Discover Lee Gilbert's insights on the challenges faced by transgender individuals in the media and society. Let's embrace diversity and promote positive role models.
Post 4:
🌈 From battling shame to embracing vulnerability and authenticity, Lee Gilbert's story is a beacon of hope for those navigating gender identity. #AuthenticityUnveiled
Post 5:
📣 Join me in applauding Lee Gilbert's mission to mentor and advocate for transgender individuals, promoting open and positive information about gender identity. A voice for change!
Leadership Insights - YouTube Short Video Script on Common Problems for Leaders to Address
Title: Leadership Insights - Living Authentically
[Opening shot of the Leadership Insights Channel logo]
Host (voiceover): Welcome to Leadership Insights, where we delve into real-life challenges faced by leaders and offer practical advice for positive outcomes.
[Cut to the host, a confident and articulate professional, speaking directly to the camera]
Host: Today, we're addressing a common challenge faced by leaders - the struggle to live authentically. Whether it's in the workplace or in personal life, the pressure to conform to societal expectations can be overwhelming.
[Cut to a montage of leaders in various settings, showing moments of internal conflict and hesitation]
Host (voiceover): It's not uncommon for leaders to feel the need to hide their true identity or conform to traditional norms in order to be accepted.
[Cut back to the host]
Host: So, what can you do to navigate this challenge and embrace your authentic self? Here are some clear actions and behaviors that can lead to a positive outcome:
Embrace Vulnerability: Acknowledge and embrace your vulnerability as a leader. It's okay to show your true self and express your genuine feelings.
Seek Support: Surround yourself with a supportive network of friends, colleagues, or mentors who can understand and encourage your authentic journey.
Educate Yourself: Take the time to educate yourself about gender identity and inclusion. Understanding different perspectives can help you create a more inclusive and supportive environment.
Lead by Example: As a leader, your actions and attitudes have a significant impact. By embracing your authentic self, you can inspire others to do the same.
Advocate for Change: Use your influence to advocate for more inclusive and diverse practices in your workplace and community.
[Cut to the host, speaking with empathy and assurance]
Host: Remember, living authentically is not just about personal fulfillment - it's about creating a more inclusive and supportive environment for everyone. Embracing who you truly are can lead to greater authenticity, connection, and ultimately, more impactful leadership.
[Closing shot of the Leadership Insights Channel logo]
Host (voiceover): Thanks for watching Leadership Insights. Stay tuned for more practical insights on leadership challenges.
[End of video]
SEO Optimised Titles
Unveiling Authenticity: Overcoming Challenges in Gender Transition | Embracing Vulnerability | Expanding Visibility - Lee @InclusionBites
Breaking Free: From Shame to Authenticity in Gender Transition | The Power of Vulnerability | Positive Role Modelling - Lee @InclusionBites
Navigating Gender Transition Challenges: Embracing Authenticity | Questioning Societal Norms | Positive Visibility - Lee @InclusionBites
Email Newsletter about this Podcast Episode
Subject: Unveiling Authenticity: A Must-Listen Episode
Hey there,
Are you ready for a deep dive into authenticity and uncovering your true self? Because the latest episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast is a game-changer!
In this week's episode, "Authenticity Unveiled," Joanne Lockwood sits down with the amazing Lee Gilbert to unravel their remarkable journeys of self-discovery. Here's what you can expect:
5 Keys You'll Learn:
The impact of lockdown on personal growth and self-reflection.
Navigating societal pressures and realizing the importance of authenticity.
Embracing vulnerability and overcoming challenges during gender transition.
A profound revelation: debunking the fear of the unknown and societal expectations.
Turning challenges into empowerment and being a positive role model for the community.
A Unique Fact Shared:
Did you know that Lee Gilbert had a profound experience during the night of the Paris-Brussels terrorist attack while on a track day in Belgium? This pivotal moment led to a major shift in his life and the courage to embrace his true self.
Call to Action:
Let's keep the conversation going! Subscribe to The Inclusion Bites Podcast and engage with Joanne Lockwood by email. You never know, your story could be the next inspiring feature!
And as always, remember that your authenticity is your superpower!
Cheers to embracing your true self,
[Your Name]
P.S. Get ready to be inspired and uplifted by the resilience and empowerment of Lee Gilbert and Joanne Lockwood. Tune in and discover the power of authenticity!
Potted Summary
Welcome to The Inclusion Bites Podcast! In this episode, "Authenticity Unveiled," join host Joanne Lockwood and guest Lee Gilbert as they delve into their personal journeys of transition, embracing authenticity, and advocating for inclusion. 🎙️
In this conversation we discuss:
Gender transition 🏳️⚧️
Societal pressure 💭
Fear and vulnerabilities 😰
Here are a few of our favourite quotable moments:
"Authenticity starts with self-awareness."
"Visibility can create change."
"Let's be the change we want to see."
Tune in to hear how Lee Gilbert and Joanne Lockwood have embraced authenticity and vulnerability, and discover the importance of inclusion. Subscribe and engage with us to share your experiences!
LinkedIn Poll
Opening summary:
"Welcome to the world of authenticity and inclusion! In our latest podcast episode, Lee Gilbert shares their courageous journey of gender transition and the challenges faced along the way. Let's dive into the conversation and gauge your thoughts with this poll. #AuthenticityUnveiled #InclusionBitesPodcast 🌈"
Poll question:
"Which aspect of Lee Gilbert's gender transition journey resonated with you the most?"
Poll options:
Family acceptance 🏳️🌈
Overcoming shame 😊
Embracing vulnerability 🔓
Societal pressures 😞
Closing "Why vote":
Your input is valuable in understanding the impact of Lee Gilbert's story. Let's continue the conversation on authenticity and inclusion. #ShareYourThoughts #InclusionMatters 🌟
Highlight the Importance of this topic on LinkedIn
🌟 As a Senior Leader in HR/EDI, I've had the privilege of listening to the latest episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast, where Lee Gilbert shared their inspiring journey of embracing authenticity and vulnerability. 👏
The discussion on gender identity, authenticity, and inclusivity is crucial for our industry. Lee's insights shed light on the challenges faced by transgender individuals and the need for acceptance and understanding in the workplace. 🌈
I encourage my fellow professionals to listen to this episode and join the conversation on creating inclusive environments for all individuals. Let's continue to drive positive change and support each other's journeys. 🌟 #InclusionMatters #AuthenticityUnveiled #HR #EDI #DiversityandInclusion
L&D Insights
🎙️ In this episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast, Lee Gilbert shares her journey of coming out as transgender and finding authenticity. Her experiences shed light on the challenges faced by individuals in the workplace and society as a whole.
Key takeaways for Senior Leaders, HR, and EDI professionals:
1⃣ Authenticity in the workplace empowers individuals to contribute their best work and fosters a culture of inclusion and belonging.
2⃣ The importance of creating spaces where individuals can explore and express their gender identity without fear of judgement.
3⃣ Recognising the impact of societal norms and expectations on an individual's ability to live authentically and the role of the workplace in challenging these norms.
"Ah-ha moments":
Understanding the mental health implications of navigating gender identity and authenticity in the workplace, shedding light on the need for supportive policies.
Realizing the power of vulnerability in leadership, and the positive impact of authentic leadership on inclusivity and employee well-being.
Actions for professionals:
Encourage open conversations about gender identity and authenticity in the workplace to promote understanding and support.
Develop and implement inclusive policies that create a safe and supportive environment for individuals across the gender spectrum.
Foster leadership that embraces vulnerability, authenticity, and the unique experiences of individuals.
#AuthenticLeadership #InclusiveWorkplace #GenderIdentityMatters #BelongingAtWork #EmpowerAuthenticity
Shorts Video Script
Title for video post: "Embracing Authenticity: My Gender Journey 🌈"
Script for video:
[Start with a close-up of the face, looking directly at the camera]
Text on screen: "Embracing Authenticity: My Gender Journey 🌈"
[Begin speaking]
"Hey there! Today I want to share some powerful insights I gained from my personal gender journey. Through challenges and introspection, I discovered the importance of embracing authenticity."
[Cut to text on screen]
Text on screen: "Be True to Yourself"
"I realised the impact of conforming to societal expectations, and how it had affected my wellbeing. It took courage to break free from these pressures and live authentically."
[Cut to text on screen]
Text on screen: "Empowerment Through Vulnerability"
"After embracing vulnerability and authenticity, I found a profound sense of empowerment. It's okay to be true to yourself, even if it's scary at first."
[Cut to text on screen]
Text on screen: "Creating Positive Visibility"
"I believe in creating positive visibility for gender diversity. By doing so, we can influence positive change and break down stereotypes."
[Cut to text on screen]
Text on screen: "Supporting Inclusive Spaces"
"It's vital to support inclusive spaces where individuals can explore their gender identity without societal pressure or fear of judgement."
[Cut to close-up of the face, looking directly at the camera]
"Thanks for watching! Remember, together we can make a difference. Stay connected, stay inclusive! See you next time. ✨"
Glossary of Terms and Phrases
In the episode "Authenticity Unveiled" on The Inclusion Bites Podcast, some less frequently used concepts and terminology arise. Here are some examples with their definitions implied in the episode:
Authenticity: The quality of being genuine and true to oneself, embracing one's own identity and values without conforming to external pressures.
Gender dysphoria: The distress an individual may experience due to a mismatch between their assigned gender at birth and their internal sense of their gender identity.
Vulnerability: Allowing oneself to be open and exposed, especially in discussing personal struggles or emotions.
Inclusion: Creating an environment where people of all identities feel valued and respected, and where their differences are celebrated rather than stigmatized.
Nonbinary: Refers to individuals whose gender identity falls outside traditional binary male or female classifications.
Transition: The process through which a person aligns their physical characteristics and social roles with their gender identity, which may include medical, social, or legal changes.
These concepts are central to the discussions around Lee Gilbert's gender transition, the challenges she faced, and her views on authenticity and inclusion.
SEO Optimised YouTube Content
Focus Keyword: Positive People Experiences
Title: Authenticity Unveiled | #InclusionBitesPodcast
Tags: positive, authenticity, transgender, inclusion, leadership, personal growth, acceptance, societal norms, gender identity, vulnerability, transformation, authenticity unveiled, culture change, personal journeys, empowerment, LGBTQ+, visibility, mental health, societal pressure, embracing authenticity, career change, family dynamics, gender transition, gender terminology, resilient mindset, belonging, self-acceptance, personal transformation, transgender advocacy, personal experiences,
Killer Quote: "Authenticity is about showing up and being the real 'you', and inviting others to show up and be the 'real' them." - Joanne Lockwood
Hashtags: #InclusionBites #AuthenticityUnveiled #CultureChange #GenderIdentity #Belonging #PersonalGrowth #TransgenderAdvocacy #Positivity #InclusionMatters #JoanneLockwood #PositivePeopleExperiences #VisibilityMatters #SelfAcceptance
Why Listen:
The latest episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast, titled "Authenticity Unveiled," offers powerful and insightful conversations between Joanne and Lee as they delve into their personal experiences of authenticity, vulnerability, and the challenges surrounding gender identity. Together, they authentically share their positive people experiences, reflecting on their individual journeys towards self-acceptance and embracing authenticity. The deep dive into societal norms and the evolving culture change offers invaluable lessons in resilience, acceptance, and personal growth, making this episode a compelling and inspirational listen for anyone seeking to understand and appreciate the diversity of human experiences.
Joanne and Lee Gilbert openly discuss the impact of societal pressure and the fear of the unknown on their personal lives, highlighting the importance of embracing vulnerability and authenticity. Their candid experiences provide a unique insight into the challenges faced by transgender individuals and the broader LGBTQ+ community, fostering a deeper understanding of the resilience and empowerment that can stem from transformative personal journeys. The episode explores the significance of positive people experiences, celebrating the power of supportive environments and inclusion in fostering personal growth and self-acceptance. As the conversation unfolds, the speakers advocate for visibility, empowerment, and the normalization of gender diversity, driving home the message of inclusivity and acceptance as essential elements of a more compassionate and embracing culture.
Closing Summary and Call to Action:
Embracing Authenticity: The episode highlights the transformative power of embracing authenticity, challenging societal expectations, and nurturing a resilient mindset in the face of adversity.
Gender Identity and Inclusion: Through the personal experiences of Joanne and Lee Gilbert, listeners gain a deeper understanding of the challenges and triumphs associated with gender identity, fostering an inclusive and empathetic perspective.
Celebrating Diversity: The conversation underscores the importance of positive people experiences and the role of supportive environments in championing diversity, acceptance, and the normalization of personal journeys.
Advocating for Change: By shedding light on the need for culture change and societal acceptance, the episode inspires listeners to become advocates for inclusivity, empathy, and positive change in their own communities.
Actionable Insights: The episode offers actionable insights for individuals and organizations to foster a more inclusive culture, paving the way for a more compassionate and accepting society.
Outro:
Thank you, the listener, for tuning in to the latest episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and share the podcast for more inspiring conversations on inclusivity and diversity. For more information, visit the See Change Happen website at https://seechangehappen.co.uk and access The Inclusion Bites Podcast at https://seechangehappen.co.uk/inclusion-bites-listen.
Stay curious, stay kind, and stay inclusive - Joanne Lockwood
Root Cause Analyst - Why!
The key problem related to this episode is the challenges faced by Lee Gilbert during her gender transition and the societal pressure she experienced.
Why did Lee Gilbert face challenges during her gender transition?
Lee Gilbert faced challenges during her gender transition due to the lack of information and role models for transgender individuals in the 1980s and 1990s, leading to mental health issues and struggle with authenticity.
Why was there a lack of information and role models for transgender individuals in the 1980s and 1990s?
The lack of information and role models for transgender individuals in the 1980s and 1990s can be attributed to societal stigma and discrimination surrounding gender identity, which led to a lack of visibility and resources for those going through a gender transition.
Why was there societal stigma and discrimination surrounding gender identity in the 1980s and 1990s?
Societal stigma and discrimination surrounding gender identity in the 1980s and 1990s can be traced back to entrenched attitudes and cultural norms that enforced strict binary gender roles and perpetuated fear and misunderstanding of non-binary and transgender individuals.
Why were there entrenched attitudes and cultural norms enforcing strict binary gender roles?
Entrenched attitudes and cultural norms enforcing strict binary gender roles can be attributed to historical and systemic gender biases, lack of education on diverse gender identities, and a reluctance to challenge traditional gender constructs.
Why were there historical and systemic gender biases, lack of education on diverse gender identities, and a reluctance to challenge traditional gender constructs?
Historical and systemic gender biases, lack of education on diverse gender identities, and a reluctance to challenge traditional gender constructs can be rooted in deep-seated societal norms, patriarchal structures, and the perpetuation of traditional gender roles through media, education, and cultural institutions.
Potential solutions:
Increase education and awareness on diverse gender identities and experiences through inclusive curriculum in schools and workplace diversity training.
Promote positive and diverse representation of transgender individuals in media and popular culture to challenge stereotypes and reduce stigma.
Advocate for policies and laws that protect the rights of transgender individuals and promote inclusivity in all aspects of society.
Facilitate open and honest conversations about gender identity to foster understanding and acceptance within communities and workplaces.
Summary:
The challenges faced by Lee Gilbert during her gender transition are rooted in historical and systemic gender biases, lack of education on diverse gender identities, and a reluctance to challenge traditional gender constructs. To address these issues, it is crucial to increase education and awareness, promote positive representation, advocate for policies, and facilitate open conversations to foster understanding and acceptance.
TikTok/Reels/Shorts Video Summary
Title: Embracing Authenticity | #InclusionBitesPodcast
Tags: Authenticity, Gender Identity, LGBTQ+, Inclusion, Self-Acceptance, Leadership, Positive People Experiences, Culture Change, Personal Growth, Mental Health, Identity Exploration, Gender Terminology, Transgender Rights, Podcast, Joanne Lockwood, Lee Gilbert
Killer Quote: "It's about creating a culture change. It's about creating a positive energy" - Lee Gilbert
Hashtags: #Authenticity #Inclusion #GenderIdentity #Leadership #CultureChange #LGBTQ+ #Podcast #SelfAcceptance #PersonalGrowth #PositivePeopleExperiences #EmbracingVulnerability #StayCurious #StayKind #StayInclusive
Summary Description:
In today's episode, Lee and I delve deep into the power of embracing one's authenticity and the challenges faced during the process of transitioning. We share personal experiences and insights on the importance of creating a culture change for positive people experiences within the journey of self-acceptance and leadership. Join us to gain valuable perspectives and be inspired to drive culture change towards positive people experiences in your own life. Tune in to uncover how embracing authenticity can lead to personal growth and mental well-being. Remember, together we can foster a more inclusive society. Don't miss out on this empowering conversation. Listen now and let's continue to create a culture change for positive people experiences.
Outro:
Thank you to the listener for tuning in! For more information and to listen to the full episode, visit the SEE Change Happen website. Remember, stay curious, stay kind, and stay inclusive - Joanne Lockwood
Canva Slider Checklist
Joanne Lockwood | SEE Change Happen | https://seechangehappen.co.uk
Connect for Inclusive Leadership Insights.
Episode Carousel
Slide 1:
Image: A powerful, thought-provoking image of Lee Gilbert
Text: "What does it truly mean to live authentically?"
Slide 2:
Image: Lee Gilbert smiling and looking confident
Text: "Join me as I share my journey of embracing authenticity and vulnerability on The Inclusion Bites Podcast."
Slide 3:
Image: A quote from Lee Gilbert
Text: "I faced challenges and mental health issues due to the lack of information and role models for transgender individuals. Let's talk about the power of visibility and inclusion."
Slide 4:
Image: The Inclusion Bites Podcast logo
Text: "Tune in to 'Authenticity Unveiled' and listen to my candid conversation with host Joanne Lockwood. Link in bio!"
Slide 5:
Image: A powerful image with the words "Listen Now"
Text: "Swipe up to listen to the episode and join the conversation about authenticity and inclusion. Let's make a difference together!"
6 major topics
Title: Authentic Conversations: Lee Gilbert's Journey to Gender Authenticity
Introduction:
In today's conversation, I had the pleasure of sitting down with Lee Gilbert to discuss their transformative journey towards gender authenticity. We delved deep into Lee's experiences, challenges, and victories, exploring the multifaceted aspects of transitioning and the societal pressures they encountered along the way. Here are some of the major topics we uncovered during our conversation:
Embracing Vulnerability: Lee's Courageous Path to Authenticity
Lee shares their profound experience of coming out to their wife, family, and professionally, detailing the immense courage it took to confront their true identity. Lee's journey from denial to acceptance provides a poignant insight into the emotional turmoil and personal growth involved in embracing vulnerability. The conversation also revealed the challenges of navigating traditional gender norms and societal expectations, offering a compelling perspective on the transformative power of authenticity.Overcoming Societal Pressures: Living Authentically in the Face of Adversity
Lee candidly discusses the overwhelming societal pressure to conform to binary gender norms and the impact this had on their mental well-being. We explore how Lee navigated these pressures and their struggles with shame and fear, shedding light on the daunting process of challenging societal expectations. Their resilience and determination to live authentically serve as an inspiring testament to the strength found in embracing one's true identity.Mentorship and Advocacy: Guiding Others on the Journey to Authenticity
Through Lee's mentoring and advocacy work, we discover the invaluable support they offer to young adults navigating similar journeys of gender identity. Lee's commitment to fostering positive information about gender identity and inclusion reflects their unwavering dedication to empowering others. Their advocacy efforts serve as a beacon of hope for those seeking guidance and understanding, fostering a community of support and inspiration.Visibility and Role Modelling: Challenging Negative Narratives with Positivity
We delve into Lee's approach to challenging negative portrayals of transgender individuals in the media and their desire to be a positive role model. Their advocacy for increased visibility and the normalization of gender identity provides a thought-provoking perspective on effecting change. Lee's unwavering commitment to changing perceptions through visibility, rather than engaging in debates, presents a compelling approach to fostering acceptance and understanding.Evolving Gender Terminology: Navigating the Complexity of Identity
Lee and I explore the evolution of gender terminology and the societal pressure to conform to binary norms. Their personal experiences with shame and the fear associated with coming out provide invaluable insights into the complex journey of self-discovery. Our conversation reflects the importance of allowing individuals to question and understand their gender identity without the burden of societal expectations, highlighting the significance of creating space for personal exploration and authenticity.Shaping the Future: Hope for Increased Acceptance and Visibility
In our discussion, Lee shares their hopes for increased acceptance of transgender individuals, drawing parallels with the historical normalization of queerness and racial acceptance. We reflect on the potential for societal progress and the importance of fostering a future where gender authenticity is celebrated and embraced. Lee's unwavering optimism and commitment to positive change offer a hopeful vision of a more inclusive and accepting society.
Closing:
Our conversation with Lee Gilbert has been an enriching exploration of the transformative journey towards gender authenticity, shedding light on the resilience, advocacy, and hope that define their inspiring story. Lee's unwavering commitment to fostering understanding and acceptance serves as a powerful testament to the strength found in living authentically, paving the way for a more inclusive and empathetic future.
TikTok Summary
🎙️ Dive into the captivating world of authenticity and belonging with Joanne Lockwood and special guest Lee Gilbert on The Inclusion Bites Podcast! 🌟 Listen to Lee share their profound journey of transitioning and overcoming societal pressures. Their story is a powerful testament to the triumph of authenticity. 🏳️⚧️ Don't miss this inspirational episode - tune in now at https://seechangehappen.co.uk/inclusion-bites-listen! #InclusionBitesPodcast #AuthenticityUnveiled
Slogans and Image Prompts
Slogan/Soundbite: "Embrace Authenticity, Embrace Freedom!"
AI Image Generation Prompt: Create an image of a vibrant rainbow-coloured mug with the slogan "Embrace Authenticity, Embrace Freedom!" in bold, empowering text. Include a silhouette of a person confidently standing with arms raised, symbolising empowerment and the celebration of one's true self.
Slogan/Soundbite: "Be Bold, Be Authentic, Be Unapologetically You!"
AI Image Generation Prompt: Generate an image of a stylish t-shirt with the slogan "Be Bold, Be Authentic, Be Unapologetically You!" displayed in a modern font. Incorporate a striking design featuring diverse, inclusive symbols (such as rainbow colours and gender-neutral symbols) embracing the message of self-confidence and authenticity.
Slogan/Soundbite: "Champion Inclusion, Celebrate Authenticity!"
AI Image Generation Prompt: Design an eye-catching sticker with the slogan "Champion Inclusion, Celebrate Authenticity!" highlighted in a bold, vibrant font. Include diverse, uplifting illustrations of individuals embracing their unique identities, representing the theme of acceptance and celebration of authenticity.
Slogan/Soundbite: "Live Unapologetically, Love Unconditionally"
AI Image Generation Prompt: Create an appealing design for a mug with the slogan "Live Unapologetically, Love Unconditionally" presented in an elegant, script font. Use soft, pastel colours and include illustrations of hearts and positive affirmations to convey a message of self-acceptance and unconditional love.
Hashtag: #UnveilAuthenticity
AI Image Generation Prompt: Generate a social media-ready image featuring the hashtag #UnveilAuthenticity in bold, captivating lettering. Surround the hashtag with diverse, inclusive symbols (such as pride flags, gender-neutral symbols, and empowering words) to visually represent the movement towards authenticity and inclusivity.
Inclusion Bites Spotlight
Lee Gilbert, our guest on Authenticity Unveiled, this episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast, shares a profound and deeply personal journey of gender transition and authenticity. As a leader in marketing and a mentor for adults with gender dysphoria, Lee brings a wealth of experience and insight to the discussion, having navigated the challenges of societal expectations and personal identity.
Lee's story delves into the struggles and triumphs of discovering and embracing her authentic gender identity, shedding light on the impact of shame, fear, and societal pressure in the journey towards living authentically. Lee's courage and vulnerability in sharing her journey inspire us to challenge traditional gender norms and advocate for inclusive, accepting spaces.
Through her work and advocacy, Lee aims to encourage positive and open conversations about gender identity, provide mentorship, and advocate for more visibility and understanding for transgender individuals. Her experiences and insights will prompt us to rethink societal norms and expectations and model inclusivity and acceptance in our interactions and environments.
In this episode, Lee invites us to explore the complexities of gender identity and shares how we can foster a more inclusive and empathetic environment for individuals embracing their authentic selves. Her personal story and dedication to advocacy offer invaluable perspective on the challenges and importance of inclusion in the journey towards authenticity.
YouTube Description
🌟Title: "Unveiling Authenticity: The Journey of Lee Gilbert | Inclusion Bites Podcast"
Opening Hook:
Prepare to be inspired by Lee Gilbert's courageous journey to authenticity and the challenges faced along the way. This conversation will challenge the way you think about gender and inclusion.
Summary of Insight:
Join Joanne Lockwood and Lee Gilbert on the Inclusion Bites Podcast as they dive deep into Lee's profound transition journey, from a life of denial to embracing vulnerability and authenticity. Lee shares her personal struggles, the societal pressures she faced, and her mission to advocate for gender inclusivity in all aspects of life.
Closing Takeaways and Actions:
Listen in to gain a deeper understanding of the challenges faced by transgender individuals and their journey to authenticity. Be prepared to embrace a new perspective and take actionable steps towards a more inclusive and accepting world.
Hashtags:
#TransgenderJourney #InclusionMatters #AuthenticityUnveiled #GenderInclusivity #DiversityandInclusion #PodcastConversation #EmpowermentStory #AcceptanceMatters #ChallengingSocietalNorms #PodcastInspiration
🔖 Titles
Personal Journeys: Lee Gilbert's Authenticity Unveiled
Lee Gilbert's Gender Transition: A Journey of Belonging and Empowerment
Challenging Gender Norms: Lee Gilbert's Path to Authenticity
Lee Gilbert: Embracing Vulnerability on the Gender Identity Journey
The Unveiling of Lee Gilbert's Authentic Self: A Gender Transition Story
Lee Gilbert's Authenticity Journey: Overcoming Challenges with Gender Identity
Breaking Through: Lee Gilbert's Story of Gender Transition and Authenticity
Navigating Gender Challenges: Lee Gilbert's Journey to Living Authentically
Lee Gilbert: Finding Belonging and Authenticity through Gender Transition
The Journey to Authenticity: Lee Gilbert's Experience with Gender Identity and Belonging
10 Question Quiz
Quiz Questions:
What was the major event that prompted Lee Gilbert to rethink and reboot his life?
a) A severe illness
b) A near-death experience
c) A major career setback
d) A terrorist attackLee Gilbert found a sense of belonging and authenticity through:
a) Conforming to societal expectations
b) Denying his true self
c) Embracing vulnerability and authenticity
d) Disengaging from social interactionsWhich platform does Lee Gilbert prefer to use for discussing authenticity, leadership, marketing, and gender issues?
a) Twitter
b) Facebook
c) LinkedIn
d) InstagramLee Gilbert's experience as a high functioning alcoholic was a result of:
a) Acceptance and inclusion
b) Denial and masking his true self
c) Strong family support
d) Seeking professional helpWhat was the catalyst for Joanne Lockwood to start her own business?
a) Difficulty finding suitable employment after coming out as trans
b) A desire for financial independence
c) Frustration with traditional corporate culture
d) A passion for entrepreneurshipLee Gilbert became comfortable with being vulnerable and authentic through:
a) Suppressing emotions and experiences
b) Accepting societal expectations
c) Facing shame and fear head-on
d) Avoiding personal introspectionLee Gilbert now mentors young adults going through similar journeys in:
a) Career counselling
b) Alcohol addiction recovery
c) Gender identity exploration
d) Mental health supportWhat does Lee Gilbert advocate for regarding transgender issues and inclusion?
a) Engaging in public debates
b) Increased scrutiny and visibility
c) Positive role modeling and visibility
d) Avoiding discussions on the topicWhat is the focus of Lee Gilbert's volunteer work?
a) Youth education
b) Gender dysphoria counselling
c) Mental health awareness
d) LGBTQ+ advocacyHow did Lee Gilbert transition from a period of shame to embracing vulnerability and authenticity?
a) Hiding his true self from the world
b) Facing fear of the unknown and societal expectations
c) Conforming to traditional gender norms
d) Ignoring the struggles of the transgender community
Answer Key:
b) A near-death experience - Lee Gilbert had a profound experience during the night of the Paris-Brussels terrorist attack while on a track day in Belgium.
c) Embracing vulnerability and authenticity - Lee Gilbert found a sense of belonging and authenticity through embracing vulnerability and authenticity.
c) LinkedIn - Lee Gilbert prefers using LinkedIn as his main social media platform.
b) Denial and masking his true self - Lee Gilbert admits to being a high functioning alcoholic during a period of denial and masking his true self.
a) Difficulty finding suitable employment after coming out as trans - Joanne Lockwood started her own business after coming out as trans due to difficulty finding suitable employment.
c) Facing shame and fear head-on - Lee Gilbert became comfortable with being vulnerable and authentic through facing shame and fear head-on.
c) Gender identity exploration - Lee Gilbert now mentors young adults going through similar journeys of gender identity exploration.
c) Positive role modeling and visibility - Lee Gilbert advocates for positive role modeling and visibility on transgender issues and inclusion.
b) Gender dysphoria counselling - Lee Gilbert's volunteer work focuses on mentoring and counselling adults with gender dysphoria.
b) Facing fear of the unknown and societal expectations - Lee Gilbert transitioned from a period of shame to embracing vulnerability and authenticity by facing fear of the unknown and societal expectations.
Summary:
Lee Gilbert's journey towards authenticity and belonging involved a near-death experience that prompted a life "reboot." Through embracing vulnerability and authenticity, he overcame denial and masking of his true self, finding a sense of belonging and comfort in his gender identity. Lee advocates for positive role modeling and visibility for transgender individuals, and mentors young adults navigating gender identity exploration. This transformation from shame to embracing authenticity involved facing fears and societal expectations head-on. Joanne Lockwood's own journey, marked by difficulty finding suitable employment after coming out as trans, led her to start her own business. Both speakers highlight the importance of authenticity, vulnerability, and positive role modeling in the context of gender identity and inclusion.
About this Episode
About The Episode:
In this deep dive with our guest, Lee Gilbert, we explore the journey to authenticity and the challenges faced during Lee's gender transition, providing valuable insights and experiences for listeners.
Today, we'll cover:
The impact of lockdown on personal introspection and the opportunity for aligning life with authenticity.
Overcoming societal pressures and expectations to live authentically.
The significance of finding a sense of belonging through living authentically.
The challenges faced by transgender individuals in media and society, and strategies for advocacy and visibility.
The evolution of gender terminology and societal pressures to conform to binary norms.
Embracing vulnerability, authenticity, and the fear of the unknown in gender identity exploration.
The importance of allowing individuals to question and figure out their gender identity without societal pressure.
Rhyme Scheme and Rhythm Podcast Poetry
Title: Unveiling Authenticity
In the depths of lockdown's quiet space,
Came an opportunity to truly embrace,
The self, unmasked and free at last,
Reflecting on the pressure of the past.
Lee's journey, a tale of leaps and bounds,
Coming out, facing judgment's frowns,
A high-functioning mask of denial's art,
Until authenticity played its part.
Struggles with family, loss of where to belong,
A path of self-discovery winding strong,
From fear and shame to embracing truth,
Lee inspires with resilience and youth.
Challenges and triumphs, a journey profound,
Navigating gender identity, breaking new ground,
Mentoring, advocating, a voice for inclusion,
Lee's story echoes, an authentic intrusion.
The importance of visibility, acceptance to ignite,
Changing perceptions, sharing the light,
A journey of authenticity, vulnerability's grace,
Empowering hearts, in every place.
For more on inclusion, belonging, and more,
Subscribe and share, let understanding soar,
With thanks to Lee Gilbert for a fascinating podcast episode.
Key Learnings
Key learning: Embracing authenticity and vulnerability is crucial for personal growth and empowerment, particularly when facing challenges related to gender identity and societal expectations.
Short blurbs:
Lee Gilbert and Joanne Lockwood discuss the importance of living authentically and embracing vulnerability as part of their personal growth journeys.
Lee Gilbert shares her experiences with shame and fear during her gender transition, highlighting the challenges faced by the transgender community in overcoming societal expectations.
The conversation emphasises the need for positive role models and increased visibility of transgender individuals to challenge negative portrayals in the media and promote acceptance.
Both speakers advocate for allowing individuals to explore and define their gender identity without societal pressure, underlining the importance of creating inclusive environments for personal growth.
Book Outline
Chapter 1: Authenticity Under Pressure
The Impact of Lockdown: Reflecting on transformative experiences during lockdown.
Societal Expectations: The pressure to conform and its impact on personal authenticity.
Realization of Inauthenticity: Recognizing the need for a reboot and personal transformation.
Chapter 2: Unveiling Authenticity
Rebooting Lives: Career changes and personal transformations as a pursuit of authenticity.
Empowerment Through Change: Feeling empowered and embracing one's true self after making significant life changes.
Selective Engagement in Discussions: Navigating the challenges and decisions regarding participating in significant conversations.
Chapter 3: Major Leaps and Shifts
Profound Experiences: Profound experiences leading to significant life changes.
Coming Out and Belonging: The journey of coming out and finding a sense of belonging while embracing authenticity.
Challenges and Loss: The challenges and sense of loss experienced in familial and social circles after coming out.
Chapter 4: Belonging Through Authenticity
Navigating Personal Struggles: Facing personal struggles and challenges in the journey towards authenticity.
Overcoming Denial: The journey from denial and masking to finding a sense of belonging through authenticity.
Acceptance of True Selves: Finding and accepting one's authentic self after significant personal struggles.
Chapter 5: Advocacy and Visibility
Advocacy for Change: Mentoring and advocating for positive information about gender identity and inclusion.
Visibility Over Debate: The preference for changing perceptions through visibility rather than debates.
Increased Acceptance: Hoping for increased acceptance of transgender individuals in the future and the importance of positive role models.
Chapter 6: Embracing Vulnerability and Authenticity
The Evolution of Gender Terminology: Discussing the evolution of gender terminology and societal pressures to conform to binary norms.
Journey from Shame to Authenticity: Embracing vulnerability, overcoming fear and societal expectations to live authentically.
The Pressure to Conform: The importance of allowing individuals to question and explore their gender identity without societal pressure.
Conclusion: Embracing Your Authenticity
Recap of Key Insights: Summarizing the main insights and themes surrounding authenticity and belonging.
Call to Action: Encouraging readers to embrace their authenticity and engage in positive change within themselves and their communities.
Title Suggestions:
"Unveiling Authenticity: Embracing Your True Self"
"Authenticity Unmasked: Navigating Belonging and Change"
"True Identity: Embracing Authenticity and Inclusion"
Chapter Summaries:
Each chapter focuses on a unique aspect of the podcast conversation, from the impact of lockdown on personal introspection to the journey of coming out and finding belonging. The book culminates in a call to action for readers to embrace their authenticity and advocate for positive change.
Made with Castmagic
Turn any recording into a page like this.
Upload audio or video — interviews, podcasts, sales calls, lectures. Get a transcript, summary, key takeaways, and social-ready clips in minutes.
Google
Apple
Or learn more about Castmagic first.
Magic Chat
Try asking