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Invest In Yourself: the Digital Entrepreneur Podcast

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Are you fed up with the corporate bullshit holding you back? Welcome to Invest in Yourself, the Digital Entrepreneur Podcast. The ultimate launchpad for entrepreneurs ready to seize control and unleash their creative genius. Hosted by Phil Better, the Podcast Mogul, each week he's breaking the chains of conventional work with bold strategies, raw insights, and inspiring success stories from the entrepreneurs who took the risk and invested in themselves. This is your call to arms. Invest in yourself. Break free from someone else's rules and build the empire you deserve. Now, let's dive head first into today's explosive episode.

Phil Better

Welcome back to another exciting episode of Invest in Yourself, the Digital Entrepreneur Podcast. I'm of course your host with the most feel Better, the Podcast Mogul. And today we're joined by an inspiring figure in the world of podcasting and content creation. A true leader who has built a name that is synonymous with dedication, authenticity and impactful storytelling. Our guest is the powerhouse behind the Eric and Allen Show, a top 1.5 globally ranked podcast and that captures the audiences with its real, unfiltered conversations. He isn't just a podcast host. He's the devoted family man, a follower of faith and a skilled content creator who has made waves across majority platforms. From being featured on the Nasdaq and Times Square to sharing his insights on over 200 podcasts including dropping Bombs with Brad Leah.

Phil Better

Our guest has solidified his place as a sought after podcast coach and content expert. So today I am excited to have him on the one, the only, Eric Allen. Eric, thank you so much for being here, man.

Erik Allen

Oh, Phil, such an honor to be on your show, dude. I'm excited to get into the conversation with you, man. You have an awesome show and people need to be listening to the show for sure, man.

Phil Better

Well, they also have to be listening to you, but there's a lot more people since you're a top 1.5. I'm on my way up. I'm at a 5% globally, which is still an impressive feat for any podcast to hit for sure. So I'm going to jump straight into it. As a podcaster, how did you become an entrepreneur? Because podcasters aren't known for making money, if anybody knows the tales.

Erik Allen

Yeah, I think podcasting is really just the door that opens. Right. So podcasting brings relationships, partnerships, collaborations. Some of my best friends today are people that I've had had on the podcast or I was on their podcast. Right. And so, you know, through podcasting you can set up affiliate links or you can get paid sponsors, or you can create communities where there's other folks that are joining that community that maybe other podcasters or whatever your niche is, right? And maybe it's a free community and then you've got an upgrade to a, A, a larger, you know, monthly spend sort of community. But I think podcasting is all of that. But for me, it's legacy.

Erik Allen

Like, I wish that I could go back three and four generations deep and hear my great grandfather's voice and hear his story from him. And I can't do that, but I can certainly do that for future generations down my tribe, right?

Phil Better

Oh, I love that. It is the legacy. I look at podcasting. Yeah, it's a. It can create wealth, but what it really creates is that legacy wealth that you, you're leaving a stamp. Like, yeah, I started this to learn for myself what an entrepreneur is, because who knows what an entrepreneur is, right? I thought it was the, you know, your uncle getting the get rich quick schemes, you know, or a brick and mortar type thing like. No. In the digital created that world for me.

Phil Better

So I'm learning from amazing people like yourself. But also it's now a legacy for my nephew so he can listen to it and figure out and my kids when they come down and then 18 generations down, you know, because who wouldn't love to have like the Rockefellers, you know, but the first Rockefeller, you know, setting up Standard Oil, you know, who would love to hear his ideas, you know, and learn from him. But yeah, I love that this is for your legacy. How long have you been podcasting for?

Erik Allen

So I started a podcast in 2017 and I started with a. An MMA podcast called the Top Rated mma. And I was just interviewing MMA fighters and asked them really like, why the heck do you want to get in a cage and get punched in the face?

Phil Better

And Pretty good question to ask.

Erik Allen

I had no idea what I was doing. I was in a walk in closet. I had a hundred foot extension that wrapped around the bed in the bedroom into the closet because there's no plugins, like, bad lighting, didn't even look into the camera. Like, you know, I was actually just uploading my video to YouTube and calling that my podcast. And I literally released about a hundred episodes. And someone said, well, how can I listen to on Apple? And I was like, what the hell is that? I didn't know what Apple podcast was. I was just uploading to YouTube. I got a podcast, man.

Erik Allen

Like, I mean, I was interviewing major MMA guys. Some of them have become UFC champions, which is awesome. But like, yeah, 2017, I actually released 256 episodes of that first show. And in 2019, I started what is now the Eric Allen Show. So I ran both shows between 2019 and 2020, and my current show, episode 292, drops tomorrow. So, yeah, I've done a little over 500 interviews since I started this thing.

Phil Better

Now I want to go back to your. The top ranked MMA show, which I think is smart SEO. And because it's genius, because everybody's going to write the top. Write the top MMA show, right?

Erik Allen

Yeah.

Phil Better

Having that stealing, that was a genius move by you, Eric. Now with your new show, because I'm going to get into the podcasting gritty. This is what I do. I love podcasting. Been doing it for a decade now. So I love talking to other podcasters who are successful. How important is the SEO in your podcast titles? Because now you're doing it off your name. You're making yourself the main brand here, which most people aren't searching, Eric Allen, if they don't know who you are.

Erik Allen

Yep.

Phil Better

Right. And that's the number one problem with most podcasters. No one knows who they are, so they can't find us. So how are you? How did you use SEO to grow to the top 1.5%? Because that's super important. Impressive.

Erik Allen

Thank you. Yeah, I mean, for me. So the show that I have today, I used to have this really long beard and it was called the I I. When I started the show, it was called the Bearded Biz show and it was bearded than B I Z. And I thought, if I have a podcast named that, I'll never have to shave my beard. And I was about 65 episodes into that. My wife, the whole time's going, hey, you know, maybe you should think about changing that name. I don't really like the name.

Erik Allen

And then I went down to do Bradley's podcast and I was sitting down with him. He's like, are you sure that's the name you want to call it? And I was like, well, maybe I should change it. Right? So I, I changed it to the Eric Allen show.

Phil Better

And I.

Erik Allen

So I think, like you said, not many people are probably searching for Eric Allen, but what I do put in the SEO is I speak to entrepreneurs, world changers and success minded people. And so that's really like the tagline for my show. And I think it's super important to have the right SEO. And now I used to have no idea what I was doing when it came to SEO before AI. Like, I was just trying to like, wing it and see what happened. Right. Throw stuff at the wall and see if it's stuck. And I do use AI a little bit on some of the keywords and things like that that I should put into my keynote or my show notes and stuff now.

Erik Allen

And I think it's helped. But I think really the biggest thing that's helped my show grow is being on other shows as a guest and then being consistent as, you know, being in podcasts for a decade, which is massive. It's awesome. Like most people don't make it episode 50. And I think for the last five years, six years since I really started this show, I've released a show every single Friday at 7am Pacific. And I will not stop. I take like Christmas off maybe like maybe two weeks out of the year. Right.

Erik Allen

But like for the most part, every Friday I'm doing that. And so I think that being consistent, having some SEO in there, that's going to, you know, draw some people to the show, that's what's real support. And I think that's what's helped grow my show.

Phil Better

I love it with. I want to go to the consistency because that is a huge factor in the success that podcasting has a podcaster. As we know, like, the more episodes you have, the more people can listen to the back catalog and downloads grow and blah, blah, blah. How did you get over that hum? Because the whole thing of pod fade, right. Like you mentioned, most people don't make it to 50. I think the current stat is less than 10% make it past, you know, 10 episodes.

Erik Allen

Yeah.

Phil Better

Because there's, as a podcaster, you know, how much work doing a podcast is. Because this is the easy part, this is the fun part. This is what everybody thinks a podcast is, right?

Erik Allen

Yeah.

Phil Better

But then there's the pre and the post production that no one thinks about. So how did you survive getting past, you know, on two different podcasts, past episode 50?

Erik Allen

For me, I love this. Like I get fired up when I'm gonna, when I'm gonna talk to somebody new. Like, I get so excited when I'm either a guest or talk to my show. And so I think for me it's about building relationships. It's about being that community and I never wanted to let that stop. And so for me to be able to, I know that there's work that's going to go into it, but it's helped me to be fired up every time I'm excited to get on a show. Every single time. There's never one time in the seven years or eight years that I've been doing this thing where I got on a show.

Erik Allen

Nah, man, I got to do this stupid podcast today. No, I'm like fired up. I'm ready to go every single time. Because I love this stuff. I love being able to impact people. I love being able to connect with new people. And so I think that's what's helped me. But I also have this just massive vision of just hitting a thousand episodes, right.

Erik Allen

Like, on my podcast, I want to hit a thousand episodes and not stop there. But that's like my next mile marker. Right. Like, I hit 500, but no, I want to hit a thousand. Right? Like, that's what drives me every single day is when it comes to podcasting, I want to talk to as many people as I can, and I want to connect with as many people as I can because that's only impacting those listeners that I don't even know about. Right. I love podcasting because people could just like, they're like the sneaky people that are just listening to a one on one conversation. Right.

Erik Allen

It's almost like this, you know, creeper listening, like when I'm listening to podcasts. Right. But that's what it is. And I'm like, I want to impact that guy who I don't even know that's listening to the show.

Phil Better

I love that. I love how. Yeah. Because this is the most intimate form of communication because it's me and you having this conversation. Yes. We have the idea for the. The audience. Yeah.

Phil Better

Really, it's just us. We don't have the audience. So I don't know what my audience wants to hear from you. So I have to gauge that and you have to gauge the response. But they're just, just sitting outside, just outside our vision, listening in and being like, oh, my God, what are they talking about? How.

Erik Allen

Yeah.

Phil Better

How do they do this?

Erik Allen

Yeah.

Phil Better

And it's. It is very. And plus, we're right in their ears and that's what's so intimate.

Erik Allen

Yep.

Phil Better

How do you do you. I want to know, what do you follow? Who do you follow in the podcasting space, specifically growing podcasts? I don't want to. Not who you listen to on a hobby, like a Joe Rogan or something. But yeah, more in the podcast area. Because the people listening here. What podcast do you listen about growing podcasts or doing the podcast business?

Erik Allen

Yeah. So, gosh, I think it's called Proudmouth is a. Is a podcast that I listen to. The host, his name is Matt and he has this full service about podcast and launching podcasts. And things like that. He's got a great platform over there and he connects with a lot of, you know, guest booking and things like that. My, my friend Kelly Cardenas and Joe Graham both have awesome shows as well. Like, they, they do bring on guests that podcasting at times, as I listen to that show a lot.

Erik Allen

But when it comes to podcasting, Pat Flynn's another one that I like to listen to. Obviously, he's been around forever, but he has such great tips and knowledge around the podcasting world that those are the guys that I'm like, oh, if I want to learn something new, I want to go listen to those guys and see how that grows.

Phil Better

And.

Erik Allen

And so those are probably the. The go tos for me when I'm trying to learn something new on the podcast side of things.

Phil Better

I love that. Where do you see the podcasting space going from here now that we've had this double boom? Like, you know, I came in 2017 bump which serial exploded us? Which. You're the. That's your class, if you would you say since you started, then we have the Joe Rogan class that exploded us in a million podcasts in from 2020 to 2021. Where do you see us going from here and what do you hope can happen?

Erik Allen

I think that if you're a business or an entrepreneur or have a brand and you don't have a podcast, you're going to sink quickly. And I say that because this is the easiest way to communicate, to market your brand for absolutely $0, you can market and brand your company and build relationships and. And start to spread the news about your podcast for $0. But not only that, they get to hear, like you said, the intimate conversations that you're having, they get to hear your real personality. It's not like I'm at work and I have to follow the guidelines of, like, hr, right? Like, no, the podcasting world is the wild, wild west. We can talk about whatever the heck we want as of right now. But I think that, you know, I. I think that podcasting is growing so much.

Erik Allen

Like, even mainstream media is now talking about. I mean, you look at, like, not to get political, but you saw, like, Trump getting on the podcast, right? That was a massive move for him. You saw Kamala, or however you say your name, like, get on the podcast, right? So everybody's kind of moving to the podcast world. And I just think that the more bigger names out there that start to kind of say, hey, I'm going on this podcast, or I'm going to talk to People like that, or Patrick David, right, Who's massive. Like, you know, those type of shows are starting to really populate and normalize podcasting. But I think it's exciting. I don't think it's going to get boring. I think it's going to continue to grow, and I think we'll continue to see people utilizing it to grow their business, their brand and market everything for them.

Phil Better

I love that. Yeah, I feel the same thing. The bigger the names come in, the wealth of new listeners come in, because I saw a stat just worldwide rent, half a billion listeners worldwide for podcasting, which is huge. And you got developing markets as well, you know, like India, Pakistan, China has this. Japan, you know, they're starting, Europe is embracing it. So you have all these emerging markets where brands can easily access without, without, you know, dealing with the headaches of learning these other systems by just having a podcast. Because Apple's over there, Spotify is over there, and then all the other smaller things just grab. And so you, you, like you said, if you don't know who's listening, it's unknown.

Phil Better

Because no one can leave a comment on your podcast.

Erik Allen

Right.

Phil Better

You know, they can leave a review, which is great. And that's. You should be leaving reviews for both my show and the Eric Allen show, of course, five stars, always on whatever platform you prefer. But it is the, the future. Because if a brand's not on it, how am I going to hear about it? And there's the news. I think that more people trust an ad on a podcast than on mainstream media.

Erik Allen

Totally.

Phil Better

You know, the old school thing, because it is that intimacy. I get trust, my listeners get to trust me. And yeah, you know, they, they, you know, Phil's not going to steer us wrong or Eric's not going to steer us wrong. On your case, I'm curious, how do you go about monetizing your community or your podcast at least?

Erik Allen

Yeah, so really funny. I've actually monetized. The majority of my sponsorships that have been on my podcast over the years have actually come through Fiverr. And Fiverr has been probably my top in, like, revenue stream, literally just from podcast sponsoring. I just put a Fiverr gig up like four years ago that said, hey, advertise your brand on my podcast. I get people all the time going through. I don't even know them. Right.

Erik Allen

They'll just reach out to me and say, hey, cool, can I advertise in your podcast? Sure. As long as I align with the value. It's not something like, like crazy way off that I don't believe in. Oh yeah, I'll take your money. Sure. I'll pull it on there. Like it's just a easy way to generate the, the income that pays for the bills. Right.

Erik Allen

But like Fiverr's a way that I've done it. I've also connected with local businesses where I live out in Idaho. So I've talked with local businesses. Sometimes I do trades. I had a lady for three years give my wife and a massage every month that I just threw her name up on our website. Like I probably didn't refer much business to her unfortunately. But she loved to like have us come down and give us a massage each month. And my wife's like that's the first sponsor you've gotten.

Erik Allen

That actually helps me out too.

Phil Better

You know, she's like that's my sponsor. You forget that I'm getting two a day. You don't do a month, you don't get yours.

Erik Allen

Right. I mean and, and you can obviously do affiliate marketing. I've done some of that. But I also created courses. So I have a course that a self paced that people can go through. It's like how to start and launch or run your own podcast. And I teach everything that I went through to get to where I'm at today. And I'm actually re recording that course right now and I'm going to be doubling the bonuses and all that stuff so the price will increase.

Erik Allen

So anybody who buys it now will get it at the discounted price. You'll get the updated version.

Phil Better

So I love the Fiverr idea. I've never thought of putting Fiverr sponsor. That is genius.

Erik Allen

Yeah. And they advertise for you. And so I, I mean I have gigs, I don't ever have to. I've never sponsored or advertised on Fiverr or paid for anything. Right. I don't pay for marketing, but Fiverr over the last five years I've generated over $11,000 from Fiverr in sponsorships and it's opened up content creation packages where brands will send me their product. They want me to do a video. Right.

Erik Allen

Like all because of Fiverr and that's helped pay the bills of the podcast and helped me to increase some of my sales and Fiverr, like I only have two gigs on there, like podcast sponsorship and let me do a video for you. That's it.

Phil Better

Like that's, that's, that is ridiculously genius. And thinking outside the box because everybody thinks the sponsorship, oh, I have to go to, you know, I have to have 10,000 listeners or something like that before Brand comes here.

Erik Allen

Totally.

Phil Better

But if you're. If you just put a simple gig on my. I. Well, I'm going to be putting a gigs on Fiverr now. Thank you for that. I'm definitely loving this episode that, Eric, because you just blew my mind and I never thought about that. Holy sh. Different.

Phil Better

Just different platforms. Like, oh my God. Anyways, we're gonna. When did you hire your first team? Or do you have a team that handles most of the hard work for you?

Erik Allen

As a podcaster, I'm a me, myself and I guy. I have done everything 100% myself since day one. Editing, marketing, website. I mean, I paid to have the website done about five years ago, but I do all the edits and things like that myself. So, yeah, it's just me, myself and I, man.

Phil Better

So I have to know, what tools do you use? What's your tool stack as a podcaster?

Erik Allen

Yeah, great question. So I was using Riverside, which I love using Riverside for the recordings. My laptop's a little bit older and they increased their tech specs and so it wasn't working very well with my laptop. So unfortunately, right now I went back to Zoom while I'm getting a new laptop. So I'm using Zoom right now to record on the shows, but I use Imovie, which is free on my MacBook, to edit the shows. I pay $10 a month for Adobe Photoshop to edit my. My photos, the episode images. And then I have a platform called Vizard V I Z A R D and that costs about 180 bucks a year.

Erik Allen

And I take the video from Zoom, I upload it, and Vizard gives me about 20 reels already cut with AI and fonts and all that stuff. I go in and make a few edits and pull that out, and it takes me about an hour to do for the full editing, all of that stuff. And then I upload to the platform and call it good.

Phil Better

That is some amazing, amazing tools. I heard of, like one of those. The whole. Out of all of them, apart from Zoom, which is like the old school recording platform, which I think nearly all podcasters start on when they do video. It's like, it's free. I'll use it.

Erik Allen

I'm looking forward to getting back on to Riverside for sure.

Phil Better

I don't doubt you because the pain, you know, as a. As a solo, like a solo team podcaster. I fully understand that.

Erik Allen

Yeah.

Phil Better

Wow. Where do you want your podcast to go from here? Like, you've already went from the bearded biz to The Eric Allen show, obviously. I'm guessing you're gonna stay with the Eric Allen show as you build your brand. Yeah, but where do you want to go as a podcast? Or where do you see yourself going, man?

Erik Allen

I think for me, the ultimate goal is to get to the top.05% globally. Right. Like, I want to continue to grow this show. The video version of my podcast on YouTube starting to grow quite a bit. I. I probably get 40, anywhere from 35 to 50 new subscribers a month. So it's starting to grow on that. So I'd love to get to a point where the YouTube version of my podcast is, Is, you know, generating income from it.

Erik Allen

I think we're getting there close. Sometime the next year probably, but really looking forward to that. But I think overall, I want to have this podcast impacting people because I think that everybody should start a pod. Start. Start. Should start a podcast. And I say that because I didn't share my story until I was 39 years old. I went through life having this childhood trauma and all the stuff that I went through, and I didn't have the confidence to share my story until I heard Ed Mylet on Instagram in 2018 say, hey, submit a video.

Erik Allen

Tell me why you're passionate about doing something, and then I'm. I'll pick a winner. And I would never shared my story before, but I, I heard him say that and I said, man, man, I really want to talk to Ed Mylett. I really want to see what he's got. And I braved it up and like, got in front of the camera and shared my story. And it was just me, but I was nervous as heck, man, sweating like crazy. And I submitted it on Instagram and like, he was posting all these things like, here's a top runner. Here's top runner.

Erik Allen

And then I woke up one morning to a text or a message on Instagram that said, here's our winner. And I won the message. My video because I shared it with Ed and which landed me a phone call with Ed, would kick this whole podcast off. But so crazy, crazy. Like, I think my show, I want to get to the point where I'm impacting so many people that we make to the top point, 5% of all podcasts and that I am putting through so many people through my free course, you know, my free, like, stuff that's on the website to putting into my course, because I truly believe everybody should share their story, whether they're going to share that out to a podcast or just record yourself and save it with your family. Like, I want to inspire people to share their story, and I want to inspire especially men, because I think we tend to hold that back and ask for help, but to step out of our comfort zone and start sharing our story and. And not worrying about our past and other people's opinions of us, because that does not find. Define our future.

Erik Allen

We do. We get to step into that and make that happen. Man, I love that.

Phil Better

I love that goal because it's. It's similar to me. I have a goal of 100 million podcasts launched before I die. Because, like, hey, like, I agree with you. It is the number one way to learn. Because I learned how to be an entrepreneur. I learned that entrepreneurs don't know anything. Yeah, they start because they don't know what they don't know, but they.

Phil Better

They figure it out themselves. It's a great way to, like, for businesses to connect with not only their audience or their. Their. Their. Their customers, but also to network. Like, you. You can network and you can find a new job. I have people who have been able to be hired from their podcast just from having someone on their podcast, like, which is insane.

Phil Better

What do you do to invest in yourself? Like, obviously, the name of the podcast, our podcast here, is Investing yourself, the digital Entrepreneur. You're a digital entrepreneur. What do you do to invest in yourself to become the best version of yourself? Else?

Erik Allen

I have a pretty stringent, strict morning routine. So for me, like, you know, immediately when I wake up, I go into a grateful mode, man. And for me personally, I'm like, man, thank you, Jesus, for another day to see and hug and hold my family. But then when I get upstairs, I start reading the Bible. That's kind of my quiet time. But then I'm also, like, reading a Maxwell Daily Reader book every day. I try to read as much as I can. I've got hundreds of books, and I tried to read for 30 minutes a day and really soak that in.

Erik Allen

And outside of the books, I'm always trying to invest in some other. I don't want to say I'm a course junkie, but I like to go and listen to podcasts. I also like to, like, if there's somebody that I trust and I might have a friend that went through a course that was like, man, that really helped me out a ton. I want to do that. And so I also didn't want to just call myself a coach because I'm a. I was like, I'm. Oh, I want to be a coach. And I'm a Coach? No, I actually wanted to go through training.

Erik Allen

So I invested in John Maxwell's actual like coaching program a couple years back and it's helped me a ton, man. So, you know, going through and learning how to be a better speaker, how to be a better coach. What questions should I be asking? And I also invested in a, in a local thing called Toastmasters, which a lot of people probably know of. But I go to Toastmasters, helps me be a better public speaker, get right on the spot, like feedback. And so I think I can always be improving. One of the things that Ed Mylett told me was the acronym canny, C A N I. Constant and never ending improvement. And I always want to be doing that.

Phil Better

I love that, I love that self education because I don't look at it as a course junkie because I love courses as well. I look at self education like totally. This is our, the university of life, if you will. Right? And we have to, we have to pay, we have to get those courses so that we can improve ourselves maybe in sales and like you do in, in public speaking, you're like, you're always self improving. It's the most important thing because that's the only way we'll reach the highest level of ourselves. What's the one advice you would give to someone starting a business? I don't want to start a podcast. I want to say start a business because that is what this is. Becoming a digital entrepreneur, starting a business.

Phil Better

What's your one suggestion, one piece of advice to those people?

Erik Allen

Surround yourself with people that are doing the thing that you want to do. Sometimes that can be uncomfortable, but I say get out of your comfort zone. Go find people locally in a meetup or a business meetup or entrepreneur or business meetup, whatever that is. But the more people that you can surround yourself with that are doing the things that you want to do, like not only doing the things you want to do, but doing the things that you want to do how you want to do it, right? So if there's somebody that's a millionaire but they don't align with your values, that's probably not someone you want to line up with. But if there's somebody that you align with value wise and they're doing what you want to do, they're a full time entrepreneur. Maybe you're a faith based person and they're a Christian or a faith based entrepreneur. Go surround yourself with them like so surround yourself with people that have like values as you and then get it in front of them as a, as you can take them out to coffee, go to meetups, you know, get into their programs, find somebody that you can trust and get in their community. You know, like Ed Miletta said, like, if you're walking around at 80 degrees, go find guys that are walking around 120, because just being in their presence is going to motivate you to step up and start to be more on their level.

Erik Allen

Right. So surround yourself with the, the people that are living the life that you want to live.

Phil Better

I love that. That's a great piece of advice for anybody, whatever, if it's an entrepreneur, a podcaster, or even a 10. Um, yeah. What's the one thing or what's one thing that you've learned from podcasting that you would love to share with the audience?

Erik Allen

I think the one thing I've learned from podcasting is just don't quit. Like, the way that you get successful in podcasting is you just don't quit because everybody else will. So, like, if you just keep going and just like, don't look at the numbers, like, I think too many people will start podcasts. I go, man, I want to be the extra rogue and have a hundred million downloads and I want to make a hundred million dollars. And they get hung up on the numbers. They get hung up on the number of downloads, man, I only had 20 downloads this week or I'll add 100 downloads this week. I tell my students when they come through, don't look at the numbers. If you're going to do podcasting, don't worry about the numbers.

Erik Allen

Do it because you love it. Do it because you're passionate about. Do it because you want to connect with people. Because even if there's one person listening to your show, maybe it's your mom, I don't care. But if there's one person listening to your show and they're being impacted by what you're sharing with them, them you've already won. You don't have to worry about the Joe Rogan 100 million downloads or whatever, but too many people get hung up like, man, I'm gonna quit my podcast because I only got 50 downloads on this podcast, or I only got 20 downloads. Don't look at the numbers. Do podcasting because you love it, man.

Erik Allen

And that'll keep you going.

Phil Better

I love it. We are coming up to the end of the episode. I know you're tight for time, Eric, so I'm gonna hit you with the last question here. What advice would you give your ten.

Erik Allen

Year old self, man? My ten year old self was a little bit. It was about ready to get into the next ten years of chaos. So I would tell my, I would tell my 10 year old self that it's going to be okay. I, yeah, I went through a crazy childhood and, and you know, had to fight mama's boyfriend. I was 13 and I was in jail at 18 and bankrupt and battled addictions and things like that for over the next 10 years between 13 and 23. So I was about ready to step into chaos at that time of my life. But if I could go back and tell my 10 year old self, hey, everything's going to work out, you know, everything will be okay. Keep going, just don't quit.

Erik Allen

And you know, a lot of the guys that actually two of the guys that I, that I ended up, you know, doing a lot of drugs with when I was in high school and hanging out, they've passed. There was a group of five of us, two of them are gone. Right. And, and so I, I look at it, I'm like, man, just don't quit. You just got to keep busting through that stuff. And, and so yeah, yeah, that, that'd be my advice at, at 10 years old, man. Just don't quit. Everything will be all right.

Phil Better

Love it. I'm going to jump off stage here, Eric. Let everybody know where they can find you. Follow you. All that good stuff.

Erik Allen

Go ahead.

Phil Better

Oh.

Erik Allen

That'S awesome.

Phil Better

Dude, I'm off stage here. Just sitting here waiting, just looking at me. Yeah, no, this is your time. Let my audience.

Erik Allen

I totally misunderstood that. I'm so sorry. That's my fault.

Phil Better

By the way, this is stamina because this is podcasting 101 for sure. This is.

Erik Allen

Dude, I love. We're just being real here, man. You can check me out@ericallen media.com that's E R I K A L L media dot com. That's my website. I've got a ton of free resources on there. Books that I recommend, courses that I recommend. You can email me, join my newsletter. I send out some of the hidden stuff in my newsletter.

Erik Allen

I'm probably most active on Instagram so it's Eric G. Allen E R I K And then my YouTube channel is Eric Allen media.com would love a subscribe for me on there there. I respond to every comment and every dm. So if you have questions, shoot them over and I'll get them to you. Thank you so much.

Phil Better

I love it. Eric, I thank you so much for being here. I'm looking forward to re listening to this episode and getting all those Gohan nuggets you dropped that I may have missed. So thank you so much to my audience. Make sure you check out the show notes below to connect with Eric and, you know, subscribe to his show. Leave that five star review. I thank you so much for listening. And as always, remember to invest Invest in yourself.

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Thanks for joining us on Invest in Yourself, the digital entrepreneur podcast. The podcast mogul reminds you that your journey to freedom and success starts with one powerful move investing in yourself. If today's episode sparked your fire, hit that follow button on Spotify and drop us a comment. Share your wins, your challenges, and what drives you to break free from the corporate growth grind. Remember, you're your best investment. Always invest in yourself because your potential is limitless. Until next time, keep hustling and take control of your destiny.

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