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Welcome back to another episode of Invest in Yourself, the Digital Entrepreneur Podcast, the show where we're helping you turn yourself from, you know, a corporate shoehawk to a, you know, maybe an entrepreneurial gold like our guest today. I'm of course the podcast mobile Phil Better. But you know what, let's talk about my guest today. I've already had the opportunity to talk to him on one of my other podcasts, but this guy is amazing. Great energy. He's helping people. In two decades, he was in for two decades, he was in the corporate world working for GE Co and Direct Supply. But he didn't like that.

He had this motivation to make the leap into entrepreneurial, so he engineered it. He drawed on his background in business, investing and system thinking. He took spreadsheets that helped him generate 15 plus returns on the stock market and turned into a full fledged platform, a tech platform that now helps over 12,000 customers and probably growing since I've read wrote this out and in 50 countries grow their wealth. So this is a conversation about stepping off the treadmill and trusting your skill set and building something that empowers you to create financial freedom for yourself and others. So if you ever thought there's gotta be a better way and there's more to this, you're absolutely right. Because our guest today is going to show us what more can be and what it looks like. So get ready to learn from the founder and CEO of Ticker, Sean Tepper. Sean, thank you so much for being back here.

It's great to talk with you again, Phil.

Good to be back. Thank you.

All right, so we're going to jump straight into it. I gave you a glowing review. You. You jumped from corporate to financial freedom through both investing and, of course, launching your own business. But why? What made you decide to kill the corporate and come into the world of entrepreneurship?

I. I always wanted to be an entrepreneur. I'll. I'll kind of. I know I hit on the backstory on your Other podcast, I'll, I'll, I'll give you it again but give you a little more detail. I won't spend too long, but I had a few failures on the journey of trying other businesses. So ticker is actually not my first swing of the bat, you could say so. Between 2006 and 2010 I built my first company that was an agency and learned that it wasn't really a scalable business.

This was actually very hard business to even grow during the recession at the time. But in 2010 we started grow little quicker, brought on some bigger names and a bigger agency approached me and said hey Sean, we would like you to merge with us. And I, at that point I was looking for an exit, a way to get rid of this thing because I just, I didn't love the agency model. I wasn't passionate about the services of providing, you know, website deny, website design, software engineering, a little bit of video services. I'm like I want to do something that's tech. Like I was looking at Salesforce and mailchimp and even Netflix had just a few years before converted to the whole digital space and got away from the whole mail DVDs. I'm like that's a brilliant business model. I want something scalable.

So didn't have any great ideas. 201011 is when I kind of made the transition to corporate contracting and that's. I soon after started working for GE and worked for. Gosh, I plan to do that. Get this two years that turned into 12 plus years. You know how that works, it always takes longer.

I'm only here until I get the base and then I'm off.

Yeah, right. Like this is a two year time frame and it took 12 years. But what I did in parallel then over the next decade plus is I tried a few tech businesses. The first one I really, I really went all in on or close to was a model like Groupon. If you remember that model, they would take 50% of the ticket sales and in this is when like a deal would be 50%, 50% off. So that means a business would like they would make 25% and like restaurants have really low profit margins so it'd be called a loss leader. So we came up a buddy of mine and I came up with an idea to give 100% of the profits to the business but the business would simply pay monthly subscription. So it's a marketplace with two audiences.

Cool idea. Started going to venture capitalists, getting a lot of no's. I was putting a lot of my own money into this, built the thing out over nine months, started going into debt. And we got so many no's. And finally enough investors were like, you have a neat idea, but you're like four years late to the party. It was like 2009 is when Groupon was hot and the daily deal things started phasing out. By about 2013, I'm like, Ah, that was stupid. So go back corporate contracting.

I think a few years later, I tried a real estate tech system that was a SaaS that did automated emails for real estate agents. Believe it or not, that model is now hot. Ten years later is just at the time early you were too late.

Now you're too early.

I was wait, yeah, timing is everything. I was like, wait. Where the model was essentially a real estate agent could tee up all their marketing content for the next week, next two weeks, next month, set it and forget it. And it would just send. And people were just like, what? Like, why do I. I'm like, you want this happening on deal? And now guess what? Ten years later, it's. It's a thing. So too late, too early tried to try to another one.

In parallel to the corporate contracting, it was like a fundraising model where you could sell pizzas. It would. I won't go into detail here, but it would work with restaurants, like pizza restaurants to sell deals and split with like Little League clubs and churches and whatever nonprofit. Our tech would handle everything. We just split the profits of these deals 5050 easy model. That was a partner issue. Was a guy who I would phrase as. I have different names for different types of entrepreneurs which we can talk in.

And there's what I call Jimmy when and wait. Which is I'm going to do this thing when we get this feature built or this then. So what do they do? They wait. Whether it takes months or years. No, no, no. A good entrepreneur will use their resources today to find a way to make money today before they wait. So there's Jimmy when and wait. There's another one I've got is.

Is Tommy Software Switcher. And then I've got Johnny Venture. And they all are the Personas of people I met on this journey. So I got to touch on the characters here. So Jimmy went and wait. Be careful of those red flags. If people are waiting to do something, get rid of them right away, they're gone. Then you've got Tommy Software Switcher.

He's the person or she's the person that comes in is like, we need to get you a new website or we need to change your Email marketing platform because the one I have is so much better. You got to, right, you got to switch to high level. You got to use click funnels, like that garbage, you know, and they won't do anything until they get the tool they want to use. It's like, do you go to a carpenter or landscaper and say, you know what you're going to, I got to get you a new hammer. Because hammer you're using, it's a bad hammer. Right, right. And then, and then there's Johnny Venture, who is the guy who now has a venture capital firm but doesn't know anything about building businesses. He got lucky because he piggybacked on some business that went ipo.

So he'll use words like what's your tam? Or phrases like what's your, you know, I really need to know what your TAM is, which is the most useless slide in a slide deck. And he'll be like, I need, I need access to your data room. In a data room essentially is, it's like it's got your financial statements and it's got, you know, trademarks and it's really all protected stuff, which is kind of a gimmick. And they'll. And my response to Johnny Ben Venture is like, if I were to give you access, would you even know how to read financial statements?

Bringing the sass. Bringing the sass, Right.

Bring the sass. So anyway, on this journey I, I had numerous failures and I kept the, the day job, the consulting, which was really good experience because I learned, I phrase it as be an ethical spy. If you're working for somebody, ask questions. How do they write contracts? How do they negotiate? What are they charging? What does that all look like when you build something big? Ask all the key questions. And what I would do is I was always taking notes all these years, again, plan to do it two years. And that was 12 years. I've got all this knowledge of like, how do you negotiate a multi 6 figure or 7 figure deal? What does that look like? What does the contract look like? What does the proposal look like? You know, and then how do you execute that? Well, I learned all that in the corporate worlds. Thank God that was good experience.

Even though there's at some places corporate politics you had to deal with, which drove me absolutely nuts. So I knew at some point I'm gonna, I'm going to find something that works. And my passion when I got out of the agency was like, how to make money work for me. And I thought, let's use the stock market and the story there is in 2015 and 16, I created the first version of ticker in Excel after a few years of not doing very well, then used it the next four years. And I didn't think of it as a business. I'm like, I just want to be able to do well in the stock market. And I was making, and I still make on average between 15 and 50% per year. And in fact, a lot of our customers, 12,000, they're on that range too.

But yeah, it was really 2019. I'm like, I might, I might have a SaaS idea here. So I start sharing it with a few people and they were everybody like, just regular guys like us. And they're like, you should turn this into a software. I'm like, okay, I think, I think I might not have a dud. I might have actually a good idea here. So it took a year to build. We went live in 20.

And then, yeah, fast forward to today. We've. We're about 13,000 customers. So you're pretty close. I know we just talked a few weeks ago, but. But yeah, man, like it was strikeout after strikeout of trying different business ideas and finally found something that has product market fit and timing. Like, timing is big, as I learned.

Yeah. Especially right now with what's going on. Timing is really good to find those investments that are smart for the long term. So I love how you, you kind of reiterated. We'll go to. I want to talk about your, your preneur Personas, but I want to first ask you or compliment you on identifying that. Yeah, you'll have Mrs. In business.

It's not always successful. They're not always going to be home runs. You can't be Alex Harmozi. Even he says he has a lot of misses as well. Because it's a lot of swings at bats. The more you have at bat, the better you can get. Right. And you improved upon it because you took the 12 years of working in this industry, being in the corporate world, and you took that and you're like, okay, I already know how to do these seven eight figure deals and now you're doing them today and you're like, already have that basis, that foundation to be.

Be these. Be the person that you need to grow the SaaS business and the entrepreneur. So let's go to your Personas because those are important for entrepreneurs because there's more than just those three because I know I feel like 18 of them. So let's talk about those because we want to be able to identify Them as ourselves because we could end up turning into those preneurs ourselves.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I've got. You're right, there's. There's more than that. But I found, you know, partners have been an issue for me throughout the years. When I had the first company, I. Fortunately, I did bring on another friend who was a partner. He was actually very good.

He could execute. That's one. As you probably noticed, most people can't execute. They'd like to talk about doing things, but they don't have the. The fortitude to do things. And. And I had a few of those people in Ticker, and I was still in that phase up until about two years ago. Business is going on five years now, but the first two years, I was still in this phase where I would hire fast fire sl, learn to flip.

That equation is higher, slow fire, fast. So. But yeah, most people can't execute. And I remember years ago, an executive told me, he's like, sean, the honest truth is most people are going to be a C plus or B minus at best. It's just the way it is. If you find somebody that's an A, that's like one in a million, it's really hard. And I'm like, oh, that's really good point. But.

But yeah, that's why I came up. Those three Personas you've got, you know, what is that? Tommy Software Switcher, Jimmy Win and Wait and Johnny Venture are like the. I can see these people from a mile away now. So I was like, no.

So with these. Those are the lessons you learned from those. How can we avoid being those types of people and moving ourselves from being a Venture bro or who knows nothing to a Tommy Weight or have to constantly switch. How can we be more of the executionable type people? Like, be that. Instead of worrying about being an A plus person or finding those A plus persons, how can we be that in ourselves?

Yeah. So what is the old rule? It's like, perfect is the enemy of good. And what that means is like it. Too many people are trying to polish things and then we'll go, no, no, no, no. Like the first. And I knew that the first version of Ticker was. It was terribly ugly, it was terrible. And.

And I knew I needed help, but I'm like, I have to get this out there and start building an audience. Just put one foot in front of others. So it's all about execute, even if it's not perfect. Your business cards don't have to be perfect. If you've got a Website like, go to Wix, 10 or 15 bucks a month. Pick a template, spend as little as possible, but get out there, build relationships. So it's. You always want to be moving forward.

And one thing I learned from my. My dad is he was. He was a salesman his entire life. He's like, do that which generates revenue first. That should always be top of mind because as entrepreneurs, you have 50,000 tasks. So I'm. Every day, I've got a Google sheet I have in front of me, and I rank order in a Google sheet what generates revenue. And I kind of color code it.

So I'm like, okay, so these top five, these generate the revenue most and the other 30 things below. I kind of need to get them done. But, like, do they make money? No. So they're pushed down the road. And it's that discipline of like saying no to that. Maybe it's a fun thing you want to work on, but does it make money? No. So it's. It's that training, that behavior and doing the boring.

This is a big thing too, is at Ticker, we. We only hire athletes or people who have an athletic background because they can do the boring on repeat, whatever that is, they can do it over and over. Because I've hired people that they'll come in and they'll do something for a few days and like, well, I'm bored of this. I want to work on something else. It's like you hire. If you're the GM of a football team and you hire a running back, and after three days, the running back's like, I'm bored of this position. I want to be the kicker. I want to be the center.

Can I be the center today? You know what? I want to be the coach today. It's like, no, you were hired to be the wide receiver, and you're going to do that on repeat. On repeat.

Your life, bro. That's your life.

It is in most people. That's another thing, too, is they can't execute and they can't do the boring on repeat. All I'll say one more thing here, and then I'll stop talking on this subject, but Michael Jordan used to come into practice early, two hours early, to practice free throws. And his competitors at the time would say, yeah, the most I could do for is 15 minutes. And then I'd get bored. And then Jordan would say, there you go. That's why you were never the best.

Yeah. And it's. You can. There's stories about Kobe Bryant doing the same thing, like doing a Full body workout before even the. The Scroopes work out and stuff like that. And Stephen Curry, all the greats, you know, they. They do that boring stuff. They stick to fundamental fundamentals because that's what win games.

That's what creates championships, and that's what makes you the best of the best.

Yeah.

I'm looking through the file that of questions that we usually have, and one of them is, what's one question that you've never been asked that you love to answer? And you put down, what did building Ticker teach you about personal growth and decision making? So you kind of touched on it a little earlier with the switching of higher, slow fire, fast instead of slow fire. But so is there any other decision making then as well? And how did it take you and grow you as a person?

I guess just confidence. Like, one thing in the corporate world is very few people want to make a decision because if they make a decision and that decision ends up being a miss or failure, it falls back in them and then they can be on the chopping block. It's very common. People don't make decisions. And. And I became more brave and made decisions for people. I put my neck out there, and fortunately, in most cases, they became successful. But it was calculated, you know, you move forward.

Well, in Ticker, I. I wasn't like a bull in a China shop, but I was kind of like, I've become more and more confident to make decisions faster with high conviction. Like, and if, even if it's not a great decision, we're making a decision, we're moving forward. That's one thing is you need to be moving forward. If it's a miss, if it's a mistake, that's okay. So now at Ticker, I will literally be in a meeting. Like today, for example, we're talking about optimizing our servers as we bring on more people. Do we want to go serverless? This gets pretty technical.

Serverless. Or migrate to another server altogether. And I brought in a friend who's like a contract cto. I had my. My lead tech guy. We're talking through ideas, and then within about 15 minutes, I knew what direction we wanted to go. It's like, all right, so we're going to phase this. Phase one, we'll go serverless.

Phase two, switch from Hetzner to aws. Long story short, there is. AWS is considerably more expensive, but it's like, all right, this. We see the pros and cons, we know what direction, and we could belabor this until the end. Of time, but in 15 minutes I'm like, we're doing this and we're moving forward. If we screw it up, it is what it is, but let's go. So that's a big thing for entrepreneurs is like, don't be afraid to fail, but you need to be. You need to move forward with high conviction, make decisions quickly and go.

I love that. It kind of moves into our second. My follow up question I kind of have here. It's since you built ticker into that global platform in 50 plus countries, close to 13,000 members, what is the core strategy that allowed you to grow it, this fintech SaaS business without, you know, massive VC funding or like, you're not, you're not on legacy media, you're obviously doing podcasts here and there, but you're not doing media buzz and, you know, blanketing the world knowing about ticker. So how did you grow this into something that's viable?

Yeah, so one thing I learned when I was with my agency, the one thing I was so impressed with with global SaaS businesses is the power of channel partners, which is essentially finding an affiliate that already has your customers and you partner with them and you share in the revenue. I thought it was just the coolest concept on how you go from A to B at light speed. And unfortunately, you know, at that stage of the game people would talk about, well, the fastest way to grow businesses is paid ads or you do a TV commercial. This is going way, like, no, no, no, no. You look at channel partner relationships and over the years, fortunately in big business, I did a lot of projects that were channel partner focusing. Get this, here's one for you. So Kohler, they were selling or they were asking the question, hey, what is another product we can make money on in a kitchen or bathroom? And they were kind of arriving at, what about those metal step cans that are kind of falling into fashion? Just a better looking step. Can you put your foot on it? Lid flat, folds up, it's about 100 bucks retail.

So they're like, all right, so let's test product, see if we have product market fit. They do some ads, they make a few hundred thousand dollars and they come to me and they're like, sean, we want you to help execute a channel partner play where it's manufactured in China. We automate tariffs, it goes directly to the channel partner, bypasses us. And on day one, we made $50 million in one order in that channel partner was Costco. And then I got an email from upper management asking, is this a Typo. And my response was, no, that's a 15 with two commas. And what I did there is I passed all the credit to the sales team who built the relationship with Costco. They get more credit than me and to the engineers that helped put it all together.

But it's like stuff like that as entrepreneurs, all this ancillary stuff like social media and posting on LinkedIn and TikTok, doing paid ads, that's all cute, but where the real money is made is with channel partners. So get this, 60% of tickers leads come from channel partners. So we partner with other fintechs, bloggers that talk about finance, YouTubers, YouTubers that talk about finance or stocks. Seventeen comes from our own YouTube channel. And then another 17 comes from SEO. But SEO takes at least three years, three years to even start making money. Now we're five years. So it's, it's something you want to put into place now because it's going to pay dividends later.

But, but those are the big revenue sources. And as you can see, the, the majority comes from channel partners. And we, I'll stop talking here on this as well. We just secured two large channel partners in the last few weeks. Thank God for opening those doors. But one of them has over a million retail investors. They're going to be introducing the ticker. Another has over a hundred thousand.

It's like, I need more of those because that's how we take ticker to go from 12,000 to a million subscribers. The only way to do it, I mean, you could, you could spend the next decade doing paid ads. But again, it's just, it's cute. You want to, you want to get the right channel partners because you'll get there a lot faster.

That's compounding interest because as they grow, you grow and it's vice versa. And it's winning for everybody involved. It's a win win for the investors, normal retail investors in your case or your, the clients, the customers, the businesses win because they're sharing, there's revenue for both involved in it. No one's losing out. And yeah, the economy keeps growing. I want to go back to the earlier moments when ticker was an Excel spreadsheet where you were trying to solve for yourself. When did it click that this also help others? Like, I know you, you mentioned you shared it with one or two, but when did it for you say, okay, maybe I should start sharing this with others?

Yeah. So how it worked out is in the beginning, I kind of knew I was onto something when I fired My financial advisors that were getting me 6% a year now we, ironically, there. There's another ticker advisory is another tool that will help advisors, long story short, convert. It'll generate more leads. Convert more leads to sales with ticker. So that's really cool. So I fired my advisors when I figured out that, hey, you're 6%, not even 8 or 10%, but you're 6%. You're getting me.

I'm blowing out of the water because I was like, I'm getting like 15, 20, 25% here without any effort. Like four times not, but four times what you're getting me. What are we doing here? And, yeah, so I got rid of them, and then I used it the next three, four years after that. And I kind of knew, like, all right, so this, if I can continue doing well, I think I might have something. So I kind of saw where this was going, but I needed to prove it. I wanted to. I wanted to be the guinea pig on this thing. And if anybody's going to lose money on this, it better be me first.

I'm not putting any. Put anybody at risk. And yeah, it was 2019. When I'm like, I. I'm after four years now, there's some volatility, and it still performed well. I'm like, you kind of go through some good and some bad. I. I tested this thing four or five years, then I started sharing it with a handful of people and got the green light from them.

That was another layer of confidence. Is a phrase we use in ticker all the time, is you want to create layers of confidence before making a buying decision. So I had enough layers to say, hey, let's. Let's do this.

I love it. That's great. Now, apart from because you mentioned some great books on the stock Dirty to Me podcast episode, I kind of want to move a little less to the side of that. What kind of investing did you do in yourself to gain that confidence to be able to be like, okay, I can do these things. I can start building these businesses, because not a lot of people believe that they have that capability, that, that strength in them to go down the hard days, the hard times. Like, you know, most. Most business people go through those lean years. So how did you build.

Build that resiliency? What did you do to invest in yourself to do that?

So with my first business, I unfortunately, I didn't have a lot of time, nor was I very motivated there in my mid-20s to read a lot. But after that, I decided, hey, let's let's really take in this information and start learning from others. So I became an avid reader. You know, read the usual suspects, like, you know, how to win friends and influence people. And what is it, Rich dad, poor dad, good to great was. That was actually a really solid book in the beginning and just reading as much as I can. You know, I learned at the time too, what is Warren Buffett? He reads like between four and six hours per day. Just reading, no meetings.

He's just. And I'm like, gosh, that's. That's wonderful. So, yeah, I, I've been an avid reader over the years. I've got. You can't see that. I've got guitars over here, but I've got bookshelves around and just stacked full of books. But yeah, I'm always trying to find another good book.

I love that. Where do you want to see yourself as an entrepreneur in the next 10 years? Do you look at. Do you already have an exit strategy for ticker or is it like, no, I'm so passionate about ticker that this is what I'm going to do for the next 10 years without any problems. What is the next 10 years looking like? Or where do you end up in that 10 years?

Yeah, I, I love this question. Thanks for asking it. So I originally was thinking, hey, ticker. And, and there have been people in the industry, the finance industry that have said, hey, you could get a buyout offer from a broker. And at. Over the last few years, I've been excited about that. That's cool. We.

So, you know, yes, we serve B2C retail investors, but again, it's primarily channel partners and the top of the food chain Channel partner are brokers because, for example, rob 25 million people. Moomoo not as well named, but they have 25 million people eToro. 25 million, give or take. You know, and it's like you've got so many people in one location. If we solve their problem and, and we're working on that right now, we're actually showing that our customers make over 20 more transactions. And if we can help Robinhood increase transactions by 1%, not 20, but 1, that will add 6 million in revenue to their business. If it's. It's 2%, it's 12.

So we're focused there. But be honest with you, to answer your question, I love building ticker. And We've got the B2C play and now we're seeing financial advisors coming to us. So we're creating tickeradvisory.com which will serve advisors and empower them to convert more leads into sales and give their customers a tool that empowers them so that you can kind of like invest with supervision with your advisor, but you can still kind of do some retail action. It does a few things all at once and it's like I see an ecosystem of tools being built like Adobe or like Microsoft and, and I'm kind of in the mode where this is what I want to do and turn it into a machine that gives people the power to invest. But also, you know, there's things I like getting to from a just a donation and philanthropy type standpoint. So I want to use it as a mechanism, a tool in that way and at the same time create freedom. We, we do work four days here at Ticker Fridays are off.

That's golf day. And my wife, she yells at me if I do not close the laptop and head out the door to play golf, which I love that about her. And then don't know. Working on weekends is a rule. It's like, all right, so we can help others. We can generate some decent cash flow to give it others and create freedom. It's kind of a, what else do I want here?

I don't know. So speaking of, we, we jumped 10 years in the future. We're going to jump back to when you were 10 years old.

Yeah.

Little Sean, 10 years old, probably still thinks he wants to be an astronaut, race car driver, police officer, something along those lines. Not looking to be an entrepreneur or a corporate consultant. What advice would you love to be able to hand back to 10 year old Sean?

You know what, there's the old there. I'm going to give two answers here. There's a cliche like believe in yourself because you. There's so much uncertainty and there's levels of unconfidence and insecurity. I guess every kid kind of goes through that. It's like, know what you want and go after it. Do not settle. I'd say that's tip number one.

Do not settle. And what I'm talking about here is the career you want to pursue. So many people fall into. Like, you know what? My job's all right. I guess I'll stay here the next 30 years. What? No, I, I was never that kid. I'm like, I know what I want and I know who I want to spend the rest of my life with. Like the, what I envision the, the type of woman I want to marry.

And I, I have married her. Somebody who's smart and beautiful and Funny. And she's a movie nerd like me. So I, it's like you. It took me a long time to. I didn't get married until I'm just a week before I turned 40, but it's like, it took a long time. And the same thing with business. It took a really long time to find something and get that thing off the ground.

Like ticker again. That's. I'm over 40 now and it's like, finally I've got a successful business or close to. But it took five years just on that alone, you know, so it, the old saying, good things come to those who wait. And it, you know, I set that tone. So believe like, or I should say this. Know what you want and don't settle. And two is a more tactical advice for anyone who's 10 is start investing.

Find some great on sale stocks and ticker. Because if I would have known that at age 10 or even age 20, like Phil, could you imagine where you'd be today if like you had like five or six amazing stocks and you were like, you know what? I'm going to take 15 to 30% of my paycheck and go into that. Where you would be today, it would be. Somebody asked me that question. If you could have started at age 10 and took every, you know, birthday money or like Christmas money or whatever money you had set aside and just put that into those stocks, oh my.

Gosh, life would be very different. Very, very, very different. Sean, I'm gonna just jump off stage here. I want you to let the audience know where they can connect with you, how they can follow up on ticker because it's an amazing platform. And hey, the way the world's looking right now, maybe it's time to start investing in stuff and ticker can help you do it. Sean. Sean, the floor is yours.

Yeah. Thanks a lot. So two places I always recommend. One is tyker.com, t ykr.com and then the other is. You can find me on LinkedIn. Sean Tepper. Sean spelled the Sean Connery way.

I love it. Keeping it short and sweet. Sean, I want to thank you so much for being here. You're an amazing guest. I always have a fun time chatting with you from stock Dirty to now. I know we're going to have great interviews in the future as well. So thank you so much for being here here.

Thanks a lot, Phil. Appreciate it.

To my audience, make sure you check out the show notes down below to connect with Sean and make sure you're following us over on Facebook and all the social medias. I thank you so much for listening. And remember to always invest yourself.

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