Hello, everyone. My name is Joanne Lockwood and I'm your host for the Inclusion Bites podcast. In this series, I have interviewed a number of amazing people and simply had a conversation around the subject of inclusion, belonging and generally making the world a better place for everyone to thrive. If you'd like to join me in the future, then please do drop me a line to jo.lockwood@seechangehappen.co.uk that's S-E-E Change Happen dot co dot uk. You can catch up with all of the previous shows on iTunes, Spotify and the usual places. So plug in your headphones, grab a decaf and let's get going. Today is Episode 80 with the title Beyond The Barriers, and I have the absolute honour and privilege to welcome Belinda Riley. Belinda describes herself as a diversity and inclusion consultant and also clinical hypnotherapist. When I asked Belinda to describe her superpower, she said that she truly cares and wants to get it right, not just feel like she's right, whilst also recognising her own privileges and using those to help others. Hello, Belinda, welcome to the show.
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The Inclusion Bites Podcast
Beyond the Barriers
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Joanne Lockwood
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Belinda Riley
04:19 "Systemic Inequality Contributes to Impostor Syndrome" 11:44 "The Power of Words: How Our Mind Works" 19:00 "Breaking down barriers and finding freedom within" 21:32 "Social media impact and lack of awareness" 30:54 "Connecting with Universal Emotions: Exclusion and Rejection" 33:09 "Unforeseen Challenges Faced Since Transitioning Gender Identity" 39:10 "Sponsorship:…
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“she truly cares and wants to get it right, not just feel like she's right.”
“I believe that impostor syndrome is actually compounded by the systemic barriers or the systemic inequality that exists in the world, and in particular in the workplace." - Belinda Parmar”
“There's the old adage and you can't be what you can't see, and not fitting walking into a room, being the only one or seeing other people who are like you not succeeding as well as other people are. It creates that limiting belief.”
“When we know that we can work with our minds to tell it what we want it to be, so we can shift from 'I'm not good enough' to 'I am enough,' through that consistency and that repetition, our mind starts to respond and believes what we tell it.”
“I eventually overcame it by realising that I was benchmarking against myself. And the incremental change was almost untied with a continuum that very micro changes.”
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Hello, Joanne. Thank you very much for having me. It's lovely to see you again.
Yes, it's great to catch up. Belinda, tell me we're speaking in the green room, just full, went live, and we talk about beyond the barriers. What does that mean to you?
So, beyond the barriers for me, means a number of different things. And in my work, I also do a number of different things. But in essence, it's about going beyond the barriers of either limiting beliefs that people have that hold them back from really achieving their potential or thriving in all areas of their life. But it's also, in my consultancy work, it's around going beyond the barriers of inequality to make workplaces work for everyone.
So, limiting beliefs? Yeah. I think when we first met, probably about four or five years ago, I was probably going through a stage of my life where this sense of imposter syndrome, these limiting beliefs, these things hold you back, this little voice in your ear that says you can't, you can't, you can't. Many people suffer from that, don't they?
Oh, absolutely. And I'm fascinated, actually, about how impostor syndrome shows up for people. And I've done a lot of work in this area and there's lots of research in this space, and I think the research says that kind of 70% of women experience impostor syndrome, 40% of men. In my work, what I've kind of come across is realising that most people experience some form of impostor syndrome or have some kind of impostor feelings. That does hold them back. And often impostor syndrome can show up in loads of different ways of that idea of not feeling good enough, not feeling worthy enough, feeling like that you don't belong or that you're a fraud and someone's going to find out that you don't really know as much as what you say that aligns with what you're doing. But for me, more importantly, when I've looked closely into impostor syndrome, is seeing how much is being left on the table, how many great ideas, how much innovation, how many opportunities, how many ideas are people not following through because of those impostor feelings and those limiting beliefs and those words that they tell themselves? And it's inspired me to really think more broadly around that and how do I build awareness and kind of empower people to overcome those impostor feelings so that they can go on and achieve and thrive and realise and fulfil their potential?
So you said just now that proportionally more women experienced it than men. I also believe that it's kind of people from marginalised, minority or unheard voices backgrounds tend to be more is that down to socialisation more than anything or is that just is it nurturing, basically?
Well, what I've kind of discovered in the work that I have done is that I believe that impostor syndrome is actually compounded by the systemic barriers or the systemic inequality that exists in the world, and in particular in the workplace. And I think often when people are talking about impostor syndrome, it's kind of saying that something's wrong with you as an individual for having these feelings, but often it's not explored within the context of the worlds of which we live and the worlds in which we work. And I think that that's why often, in my experience and what I see, these impostor feelings are compounded for women and other sort of marginalised or underrepresented groups. And I think there's a reason for that. And I've looked really closely because I think when I started looking at impostor syndrome, I remember when I moved from my career in the public sector into the private sector, I remember thinking, oh, my God, I'm not going to fit. They've employed the wrong person, I'm going to get there and they're going to go, thanks so much for coming, Belinda, but we've made the wrong decision because I thought, based on my ideas about the workplace, that I didn't really have a role. But what I realised quite quickly when I started this new job is that I wasn't the only person who was experiencing these impostor feelings or this impostor syndrome. And people who I was looking up to, who were and are absolutely phenomenal leaders of businesses, entrepreneurs, I had the privilege in my role of working with royalty, with Olympic champions, Paralympic champions, world champions, in athletes. And I couldn't believe that there was some similarity in around some of these impostor feelings. And it really triggered in me. Where do these feelings come from? Why do people think they're not good enough, even when you've kind of achieved what most people would only dream of achieving? And where does that come from? So I started kind of doing a little bit of inquiry and as you mentioned at the beginning of our conversation, I'm also a hypnotherapist and really interested in how sort of the mind works and the rules of the mind and the power of the mind. And I also had the privilege of studying with a phenomenal woman called Marissa Pierre. I don't know if you've come across her before, but she's a phenomenal therapist. She coined rapid transformational therapy. And she was saying that in her kind of 35 years of being a hypnotherapist, a therapist, and she uses a number of different types of therapies is that she identified that there was kind of three limiting beliefs that there's no boundaries to this idea that you're not enough, that when you look up, what you want isn't available to you. Or this idea that you don't fit or you don't belong. And so when I was sort of re upskilling with her, I looked into that and was thinking about that in the context of the workplace and in the context of the work that I was doing around diversity, inclusion and inequality. And my role was really looking to advance minorities or marginalised groups into leadership roles. It really got me thinking about those three factors and how does that actually show up in the workplace. And what I realised is that when I was looking at, in particular women and other marginalised groups, we're constantly held to a kind of masculine standard around what is success. And we're often told that we need to work harder, that we need to do more to be successful. And there's often this ingrained belief in workplaces that we operate a meritocracy that if you work hard, you will progress at the same rate as your peers. But the reality is that's not true. But the systems are designed to support that process. But then when I looked a little bit deeper as well, when you look up, it's not available to me. Well, when you look into companies and you look in businesses and you look in who is in those seed in your leadership for, again, women and marginalised groups, there's not that many people that look like you or sound like you. And then often again, the same communities when they're walking into a room and they look around, there is, again, only few people that necessarily look like you. So when we come back to this idea of I don't belong, or I'm not enough, or I don't fit, that is kind of or I'm a fraud, or people are going to find out I don't belong, you can. Kind of see that those limiting beliefs that we have are compounded every day to reinforce this idea that what you're seeing is actually true because the world is telling you and reinforcing some of those thought processes.
Yeah, I love that you break the three down. And I always think that there's the old adage and you can't be what you can't see, and not fitting walking into a room, being the only one or seeing other people who are like you not succeeding as well as other people are. It creates that limiting belief. I agree completely. I think you're also right about this perception about you got to be superhuman sometimes. I can't show weakness, I can't show failure. And as a woman, we end up having to juggle multiple home tasks and work tasks and childcare tasks. Even in the most modern relationships, there's still that unbalanced burden, if you like, in many families. So trying to be super human to do everything or feeling like you're letting someone down if you can't do everything is a massive challenge as well, isn't it?
Yeah, absolutely. And I think we put ourselves sometimes under so much pressure that it kind of reinforces this idea of if I make a mistake or if I can't do everything that I said I'm going to do or that I fail at something, that there's something wrong with me, that I'm not good enough. And almost it becomes this self fulfilling prophecy around there's not enough feelings. And the words that we tell ourselves, and I think a lot of people don't realise this, is that the words we also tell ourselves are the most important words. And often we have such a strong inner critic, we're very good at internalising the negative. And I just wish that we were just as good at internalising the positives, our successes and the things that we do well. And I think that if we're able to do that, we could start to kind of overcome some of those limiting beliefs.
Yeah, you've probably heard of the phrase fake it till you make it. And sometimes it depends on how you say it and how you think about it because it can be a kind of a negative term. But I also think it's your definition of faking because impostor syndrome is almost telling you that everything you're good at is fake. So sometimes you've just got to keep on believing in yourself that that faking until you make it is not actually you're not actually being fake, you're just being really, really hard on yourself and you are good at what you can do.
Yeah, well, it's interesting that you bring that up. I think that in the work that I've been doing as a hypnotherapist and again, studying with Marissa Pierre is understanding how the mind works. And there's what's called these rules of the mind and this is where this idea of kind of faking it till you make it almost comes through. But let me give you kind of a new way of kind of reframing that, is that when we actually understand how our mind works, we can actually work with our mind rather than against it. Because the mind doesn't actually distinguish between what is real or what is fake, what is fact, what is fiction. It's actually just listening and responding to the words that you tell it. So the whole idea that you might not believe that you are talented at something, but if you tell yourself enough, then your mind will actually respond to the words that you're saying it. So our minds are designed to keep us safe, in essence. And this goes back and I know that you've had lots of conversations with previous sort of guests around this idea, but our mind is designed to take us away from kind of keep us safe. And that also means that it takes us away from things that are perceived pain towards what is perceived pleasure or safety. But when we know that we can work with our minds to tell it what we want it to be, so we can shift from I'm not good enough to I am enough, through that consistency and that repetition, our mind starts to respond and believes what we tell it. And so often people talk about this whole idea of affirmations and people go get a bit icky about sometimes affirmations, but in essence, affirmations are just the words that we tell ourselves all the time. And if we go back to what we were saying before, so often the words that we tell ourselves are very negative. I'm not good at that. No, I can't do that or I'm failing or that, or people are going to laugh at me or judge me if I do those things and they literally hold ourselves back. But if we start to tell ourselves a different narrative because everything actually begins with a thought and we've got the power to control our thoughts and change out and change our thoughts and our thoughts, everything starts with a thought that creates a feeling and then that feeling kind of creates a behaviour or an action that then kind of creates certain thoughts again. So coming back to that idea that you've got to fake it till you make it, actually, if you tell your mind something enough, it will start to believe it and then your behaviours start to align with that belief system.
Yeah, I agree. I look back at my own journey of the last six years and some of the early stages of that imposter syndrome limiting police really impacted me. One thing I identified was that I didn't have any benchmark just to know how I was doing. I didn't have any positive reinforcement. I worked alone, like many of us do with freelance or independent. So you haven't got colleagues around you saying you can compare notes or even when they say, wow, you're doing amazing, you go my reaction was now I down talk that almost embarrassed to be celebrated success. And I eventually overcame it by realising that I was benchmarking against myself. And the incremental change was almost untied with a continuum that very micro changes. I was improving and I had to start looking further back. So I had to start looking a month ago or two months ago. And that's where I started realising that I was improving.
Yeah. And I think it's really interesting that is that sometimes we forget where we started and where we've come, and often when we start to change and develop and grow, sometimes that can feel very incremental. And as you said, unless we're kind of clear of where we started, and so often we don't, and often we fail to stop and celebrate our successes, our wins, some of the, you know, whether they're big wins or small wins, and actually seeing the progress. And often our limiting beliefs are based on experiences that we had years and years and years and years ago and aren't actually relevant or aligned to where we are now. So the fact that you're able to see that, I think is phenomenal. And I think sometimes we do just need to cheque in with what is it that we've done? Look back and see how far we've come, celebrate that, but also get clear about where we want to go. What does success look like to us, and then what is the action we need to be taking to achieve that?
Someone said to me that it's a very British thing to be self deprecating or not taking credit for what we can do. Is it just a British thing or is it a world over trait? This is imposter syndrome.
That's a very good question. I was having this exact same conversation with a German friend of mine only a few days ago. And I think that in my experience and I've had the privilege of working with people across cultures around the world. I think the term impostor syndrome is one thing, but I think what's sort of equivalent to the impostor feelings I think are fairly universal. I think it's just about how you describe it. So, yes, I think the British do regularly say, and I'm an Australian, and I was trying to think about are we self deprecating in the same way that British people are? But I've been in Britain for so long, for 20 years, I can't quite distinguish what's different. But no, I do think that it's different interpretations of how you would describe impostor syndrome. But I do feel that when we're looking at kind of more broadly limiting beliefs, I feel that most people have them. And often those limiting beliefs stem all the way back into childhood. And it's about our interpretation. So you and I could have experienced very similar things or different things, but our limiting beliefs come from our interpretation of those events. And then every time we're in a situation where those feelings are triggered again, it kind of compounds those feelings of not being enough or those compounding those feelings of impostor syndrome.
You said at the beginning, I introduced you as a diversity inclusion consultant. And one of the things that I always find when I speak to people, one of the biggest challenges they have is overcoming this fear of getting it wrong. Everyone's worried about upsetting somebody to the point where they'd rather disengage than engage. So how do you get people comfortable having uncomfortable conversations, or feeling uncomfortable, if you like, around these kind of conversations out of their depth whilst giving them a safe space?
Yeah, well, first and foremost, I think it's realising that you're not alone. Most people are more worried about themselves than they are worried about the other person and what you think about them. And I think there's something quite freeing in that. Again, only the other day I was talking to an old colleague and they're like, oh, my God, I said that. And I was like, My goodness, nobody would have even noticed that. But what you felt, where you'd made a stumble or you'd done something wrong, that you really noticed. Nobody else even noticed that. So I think also we're very, very harsh on ourselves and I think sometimes we've just got to kind of let some of that go. I think that also we have to get comfortable being uncomfortable and creating space and kind of almost that psychological safety for people to be able to talk about issues and talk about different experiences, because otherwise, if we're not out there learning and building awareness and breaking down some of these barriers, nothing ever changes. And I regularly and I do a lot of work with leaders and a lot of leaders feel and say to me, but what happens if I say the wrong thing? And it's like, but, yeah, you might say the wrong thing, but also, what is your intention? Actually? You often are speaking louder by not saying anything at all. And I know in talking to lots of people, the fact that people are willing to have that conversation and open to learning and opening to making a mistake is far more engaging than feeling like you're not being seen heard or even being given the opportunity to have a voice.
Yeah, we do see countless examples, though, in the media where someone's made a slip up and they get berated for the recent example of the lady waiting to our former queen or our deceased queen having a conversation to a charity, a black person who's a charity worker, and how that conversation went around where you're from. So people see that and they either go, oh, that makes me really nervous, or the opposite reaction is they get kind of defensive about this political correctness and wokeness in society and you can't say anything these days without someone jumping on you. How do we kind of have those conversations where we're helping people through that?
Yeah, I think the social media has made life quite challenging for people, but also, I think in that example, there was a real lack of awareness. And I think that when people do make mistakes and what was said wasn't appropriate, and I think that they weren't being aware of the impact of that constant questioning about, but no, where are you really from? Where are you really from? And the impact that that has. I think that for me, we have a responsibility to educate ourselves and to learn and to use those kind of moments around how do we actually reflect and what is the impact that that has on other people's lived experiences? And I think that for me, where I see a real issue is when people aren't open to that learning. We talked at the beginning about privilege and it is about recognising that we have got certain privileges, but also it's around there's a great quote that I often use in my work and I better make sure I get it right. It's a Stephen Covey quote, is that we see the world not as it is, but as we are. And I think that for me, that's really important, that we start from a place of acknowledging that and then being open to learning to make sure that we do continue to evolve. I think it's difficult, though, I think, because a lot of people are persecuted for saying the wrong thing. But I also think that sometimes it's about the intent and it's also recognising the barriers that certain people do face every day. And that was a classic example of that, of not recognising and not being aware of and not, I suppose, almost reinforcing an issue.
Yeah, I agree that most most people are, by definition, good at heart. Most people want to do well in the world, they wake up with positive intent. But as as you as we just discussed, the intent doesn't always cover the impact. We have negative impact and we slip up. How do we recover that if we realise we've created a negative impact or a problematic impact?
Yeah, well, I think it's also about acknowledging it. It's not denying that it happened. I think that we have to get comfortable owning our mistakes and acknowledging it. So acknowledging the mistake, apologising for it, learning from it, but also then we need to be able to move on. And I think that often we don't do that. And I see that and I think actually one of the biggest barriers to the work that I know that both you and I are very passionate around advancing equality in the workplace is the denial of the inequality that exists and people not taking responsibility for making change. There is enough information out there for us to just because you haven't experienced something or you haven't seen it or it hasn't affected you, it certainly doesn't mean that it hasn't happened. And I think that for me, is one of our greatest privileges, is being able to use that privilege to break down some of those barriers and using your voice and using your power and influence to start driving change. I often see, especially through this lens of diversity, equity, inclusion, is that we're asking minority groups to fix the problem. It is not their job to fix the problem of inequality. So again, it comes back to, for me, that education piece, but we also need to ensure that we're able to acknowledge when we have made a mistake and what we're actually going to do about that.
Yeah, that's so true. Black people can't fix racism, no women can't fix sexism, et cetera, et cetera. But what we often find is in our dei space when we're having these conversations, becomes an echo chamber, becomes an echo chamber of just within that community. So black people talk about the challenges or black brown people of colour talk about the challenges they face, but white people aren't listening. So how do we get everybody in the room through allyship? But how do we persuade people who are not part of those minority groups to engage and learn more about the challenges, the injustices, as you said?
Well, I think that there's a number of things. I mean, for me it is around understanding, creating space and opportunities to build awareness and understanding. There is so much information out there and it's about how do people connect on a personal level. I think, as I said before, people have a responsibility to educate themselves and to take action and for people to be aware of how they can leverage their power. Well, first of all, that they have got power and influence. I think that there's also an opportunity in terms of ensuring that we're listening to people's lived experiences and creating that space to listen to people's lived experiences. And I think coming back to that privilege is it's not always somebody's fault, but it is about recognising that it exists. And I think I mentioned before, one of the biggest barriers is the denial that inequality exists in the first place. So how do we ensure and I think that what I've seen is that everybody connects in different ways. So how do you create those AHA moments for people that they can connect with? I think that what I've often seen is that sometimes the messaging around diversity and equity and inclusion creates a zero sum game. Like to advance inequality means that other people need to miss out. And that's a real misconception. Everybody stands to gain. And I think for companies in particular, there is so much out there that shows that the companies who get this right are at a competitive advantage. So sometimes it's about how do we ensure that people understand this in the right way around what some of the benefits are. I often say there's no business case for the status quo, but I always say, well, tell me the business case. And I do find that a little bit frustrating, but actually there's enough information out there that demonstrates the business case as well as the human case. But recognising again, that everybody stands to gain from getting this right. But I'd love to hear from you, how are you experiencing this? Because it is a challenge.
It is. And I have my own marginalised characteristic. And as a trans woman, like most people recorded this in February 2023, there's a lot of anti trans rhetoric caused through the Scottish Gender Recognition Reform Bill, talking about transgender prisoners who have been convicted of rape. There's a whole load of rhetoric around. Think about the women and children with damaging access and all this focus on trans women. So it is I'm well aware of the noise and this pervasive kind of drone in the air that I and other trans people feel. And it affects we talked, to use the word earlier, psychological safety. It means I'm constantly on a state of awareness and stress and anxiety in certain situations. And it's really hard to I think, as you said, you talk about the zero sum game. I'm not trying to steal anybody's space, I'm not trying to take anything away from anybody. All I'm saying is, can I exist in the world? And you're not losing. There's nothing to lose here. If there are bad people, there are bad people. There are bad people in all books of life. And just because you're transgender doesn't mean say you're a bad person. So the effect is we dehumanise. And once you dehumanise, it gives society permission to treat you any way it likes for their impunity. I think what's happening is the moment we see it through time. I was speaking to a lady yesterday around the dehumanisation of Arabs and Muslims. We saw around the dehumanisation of the Japanese people in America after Pearl Harbour, we saw in the Second World War and the Nazis around people who are Jewish. So we see these dehumanising words and we're seeing now the worrying thing is we see the rise of the incel movement, the Andrew Tate, the toxic masculinity dehumanising women as such as becoming property. So I think as much as we're pushing forward, we're having to hold our own at some point, because otherwise, if we don't hold, we're sliding backwards in some of these areas.
Yeah, absolutely. And I think at the heart of all of this, it is about being human. And I think there is a real reminder. And whilst I think when we look at what people experience, and as you've just explained, I don't think there's anybody in the world who has not felt at some point in their life what it feels like to be excluded or to be rejected. Just some people only have to experience this occasionally and often when I go into companies to work with them, to really kind of help people connect with what we're trying to do, and the goal is helping people to connect with that. What does it feel like, closure? Sometimes do these visualisation exercise, just close your eyes for a minute and imagine what does it like walking in and the only person you open up your eyes and you're the only person that looks. Like you in the room. Remember that time when you weren't picked at school to go to a party, or you weren't invited to a party, or that you weren't chosen to be on a sports team, being rejected from a date. You ask somebody out and they say no. All of these feelings are kind of universal, those feelings of not fitting in. And it comes back to what I was saying before, not feeling worthy, not feeling enough. And then for me, when people can connect with that, imagine feeling like that every day, that every day you step out of your house. And as women, we have different thought processes to men because of safety every day. And I have these conversations regularly. Do you even think about what it feels like to have to think right? Am I going to be coming home late tonight when it's dark? Am I safe to do that? Can I get transport? How am I going to get home? Does anybody even know where I am, for example? And I know that that happens for women and for black boys in particular as well, out in the community, because of these stereotypes. But when people can actually connect, I think sometimes to some of those human behaviours and make a connection, then that for me, sometimes is a trigger to get thinking, people thinking in a different way.
It was certainly something I had not foreseen when I transitioned six, seven years ago. As we grow up, we learn these social constructs, we learn our behaviour model, we learn all these things. And what I hadn't appreciated was the need to unlearn, to allow me to relearn. And I experienced some safety issues that completely came from left field. I had no idea this was going to happen. I was so unprepared. Fortunately, nothing terrible happened, but it was like a real jolt. I can't do this anymore without thinking, I have to plan this, I have to be aware of this. I need to cheque that someone is watching me in case this goes wrong. I'm not alone here. I've got support if I need it in a bar or wherever that may be. And it was a really scary enlightening, but also a wake up call around my own set of privileges that I had that I hadn't even thought about. And now I erased those privileges and I had this new feeling, a number of stories. I was at a dinner a couple of weeks ago with two other women. We're sitting there having a conversation. They both looked their watch at some point went, we better be going home soon. I don't want to get that last tube, I don't want to get that last train. I want to make sure I go now. I don't have to get my keys out and hold them between my fingers. I thought, this isn't conversations, this is normal conversations that women have around the table at that time. Of night that, again, I was suddenly going, you're right. Yes, you're right, I'm still trading off that old privilege.
Yeah. And often people don't necessarily lose. Well, what's the impact of that? What is the emotional load with coming with having to think about elements of your identity each and every day? We talk a lot, don't we, around health, well being, mental health, these thoughts, as you've just described as well, that can have quite a profound impact on people. And you think about your kind of working memory. If a percentage of your time and energy is thinking about this, what is the impact that that has in other areas of your life? And we connect that to the workplace. How does that impact productivity in the workplace if people are already having to think about all of those things before they even start the day? So, again, coming back to companies and businesses need to think about that because there's so much again being left on the table, because people are worrying about things that because they can't be their authentic selves, because that's not what fits or what belonging. And again, there's something that everybody can gain by creating a place where people can turn up and be themselves, that there's modifications to create the right environment for people to thrive. Now, that's for me around, there's a great image, and I'm sure you've seen it before, that describes equality versus equity, where you see people on bikes. We shouldn't be treating everybody the same because that's not recognising or understanding some of the barriers or modifications that people need to be able to get on the right size bike so that they can get to the finish line.
Yeah, I think it was JFK. Rising water floats all boats evenly. Don't we have to recognise this? We need to add enough water so that we are floating everybody, but it starts at the lowest boats first and then raises to the highest boats. That's recognising that people need this equity, we need to invest in. People understand that the barriers, the additional challenges of being them. And I think you're right when you're talking about this extra load, cognitive load, my background in it, I used to be a programmer many, many years ago, and I always think about these little things or little subroutines in my head. So am I safe? Am I going to be disrespectful? Is someone going to misgender me? Is this going to happen? So all these little things are firing off before I can actually do any next the proper thinking, yeah, I've almost got this extra burden every time I'm going, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. Yeah, good, but carry on. And that could be limiting beliefs, it could be all this other stuff in there, all part of this load that I and others have to consider through lack of privilege or whatever it may be that others may not have to. Maybe they have their own subroutines their own challenges. But, yeah, it's definitely I feel that cognitive load there now.
Yeah. And that's really powerful. And I think there's also things that we can do to take some of that away for people. What can we do? We shouldn't be adding to that by constantly having to either fix the problem or fixing different things within workplaces. I think that those in positions of power and influence don't, I think, realise that they can do things differently to alleviate some of that emotional load or even just recognising that that's what people experience every day in certain areas.
And being the only one in a room should not be underestimated how what a load that is. Because in one respect, you're representing everybody who's like you. The conversations are harder, you're looking out for microaggressions or discriminatory comments or those challenges, and you're worried about your personal safety, you're worried about a whole load of factors going on, psychological safety. And I think a lot of workplaces are set up, so there are many places where you are the only one said if you're a young black woman trying to succeed and go into leadership roles, there are many role models in there. So what can organisations do around coaching and mentoring and support programmes? Equity, we talked about. Isn't it about equity?
Yeah, I mean, something that I'm really passionate about and have been doing a lot of work and have been seeing quite phenomenal impact is sponsorship programmes. And the reason why I think sponsorship is probably one of the most influential factors in kind of advancing inequality or advancing equality in the workplace is it shifts the responsibility around who's kind of accountable for change. Traditionally, and I think this is done with really great intention, we have all of these programmes that focus on the minority, whether that's women, whether it's ethnic minorities, et cetera, et cetera. But I think unintentionally it's also the message is we're trying to fix people to fit into an environment where they don't fit. But actually, if we shift that towards, well, actually, what can we do to actually enable? Because people don't need fixing, they just need the right environment for them to thrive and that might be different to what certain people need. But when we talk about people who are individuals and looking at what people individually need, then we're going to have far greater success. And what we've discovered, or what I've discovered through sort of different parts of work that I've done, is that often people have access to sponsorship informally by those who are in the majority. We all have affinity bias, every single one of us. We have very much human behaviour and in essence, affinity bias is that we like to surround ourselves with people that are similar to us or that we can connect on. And I think that dates right back to tribal times, that if you're a part of a tribe, you're part of a community, you were safer, and if you stepped outside of that, you were at risk. The thing is, we're not back there, we're not in the same place anymore. But also that kind of idea of being around people who are like us does make us feel broadly safer. And as a result of that, and as a result of people who are in the majority, those who are like that get access to whether that be networks, whether that's opportunities, whether that's information, and that creates huge amounts of advantages and opportunities for those. So when we're looking at kind of formal sponsorship programmes, when you can help, especially leaders in business, understand the barriers that people face and how that is compounded when you apply intersectional lenses and once they recognise that but they can actually do something to support those people by giving them access to influential networks, information, opening doors, creating visibility it can lead to huge differences for those people. But for me, that's around really active, visible and accountable sponsorship. Now, what I've also seen is a lot of people think that they're sponsoring others, but they're not, they're mentoring them. And the difference for me is sponsorship is about how you use your influence for others. Mentoring is about sharing information, but it's really about what you do when somebody's not in the room. So if people are really looking at ways to advance sort of representation or diversity in workplaces, my top tip often is around, look at your sponsorship programmes, look at formal sponsorship programmes, let's look at the systems, let's break down those barriers that exist, let's challenge this belief of meritocracy and let's really make a difference.
Yeah, the myth of meritocracy is is still powerful, isn't it? I've I've I've been in a room full of recruiters and and they all pipe up, yes, but the best person gets the jo, and I say, using whose criteria? And it's about who designs the criteria, designs the meritocracy. And the criteria is designed often with bias own lens, own lens stuff. You're looking at yourself or I've got a Trevor and I want another Trevor. That's what we're saying, isn't it? And that's often how the meritocracy is designed, someone just like that.
Yeah. Well, it's interesting, I leveraged this term called meritocracy that I came across, because actually, I think that what most companies do, again, unintentionally and unconsciously, is that they kind of employ, promote, develop people who look and sound like those who are currently in positions of power. And this term, meritocracy, was originally coined in Silicon Valley with a recognition that those in the tech industry, they weren't being employed based on their merit, they weren't being employed based on their skills, they were being employed based on who looked like those that were already there. And what that meant. And the bigger impact is that they were missing out on the skills that actually were going to help them and enable the businesses and I see that play out again and again in businesses at the moment. And the other question I often challenge people is, well, why would someone want to come and work in your organisation? And I think that if you can answer that question, that's what's going to attract people in. Do you actually value the uniqueness that individuals bring? Do you create the space for people to have a voice? Because I often say, oh yeah, we really value diversity, it's really important to us. Well, show me, what does that actually look like for you? Why would a trans woman want to come and work in your business? Are they going to be set up for success and what are you going to do to enable them to be successful? What does that actually look like? And for me, they're some of the tough conversations we really need to have because when you start asking those questions, I'm not sure that everybody always has an answer. And I think that going back to what we were talking about, about being unlearning and then having to relearn, is I think that there's a lot of that that needs to happen. But again, we need to create the space for people to be able to do that, to think about how do we value people who are different and how do we create the right environment.
For people to thrive when we're trying to diversify. Some air quotes when I said diversity, diversity that are we in danger of creating a stereotype around the person we're trying to hire. What I mean by that is often when we say why do we want to hire more women? And often we'll say we need more empathy, we need more compassion, we need more soft skills into our teams, that's making the quantum assumption that women have those skills more than other people. And that's creating a stereotype that women are naturally more emotional and compassionate and that's saying that men can't be so we're almost creating a reverse bias there to justify why we should hire more fairly. And I think sometimes we get sucked up into these other stereotypes and unfairly hiring women just because they're emotional and compassionate and have high EQ, supposedly.
Well, actually, I think there is some research that supports some of those statements. But I think more importantly is I think that it's redefining what are the skills that we actually need? And I think that and not putting people into these gendered stereotypes, but I think that because people men can be very emotionally intelligent and can have empathy and there's women that don't have empathy so it shouldn't necessarily keep putting people into boxes. It's about what are the skills that we need? What does a leader look like in our business and who are the best people then to deliver on that? And it goes back to your point is are we even clear around what are the skills and capabilities that we actually want and need for a business to thrive. And I think that that has changed and I think that there's a recognition that there's certain skills that we need more of in the future world of work than before. And I think that that is constantly evolving and changing as well. But I think that it shouldn't necessarily just be defined about a woman brings this or a man brings this, or somebody from this community brings this. It's actually being clear on the skill, see? And then starting from there.
Yeah. And also building trust as well. I was talking to somebody the other day, and what we're talking about here is diversity isn't about Noah's Ark, it's not having two of everybody or one of this or some of that. And we've got to have this matrix of different personalities and identities. It's around the people who we have, trusting the people in leadership or the mission of the organisation to support them, recognise them, empower them, look after them, create their belonging, create their culture. So you may be the only one. I mean, I'm the only one often, but it doesn't worry me, provided I trust the environment I'm in to respect and look after me and not break me.
Yeah. And that comes back to that psychological safety, isn't it, is that if you go into an organisation and everyone looks and sounds the same, what you could determine from that is that they're not valuing difference. And it's not always about having to see a complete replica of yourself. But if there is people who are representative of different backgrounds, different whether it's socioeconomic background, different educational backgrounds, different ages, all those different elements, people who are neurodivergent if you've got people who are representative of difference, it shows that, well, my difference is more likely to be valued and accepted because there appears to be because of what I'm seeing. People are there because of their uniqueness and the diversity of what they bring, rather than, oh, there's four women, there's four of this and there's four of that. And I think that often people think that diversity or having certain diversity is fixing the problem of inequality. For me, diversity is an output of inclusion and belonging.
Yeah, I often talk about that, where people focus on these diversity initiatives, diversity, hiring, let's go out, hire more people. And I always say, no, hiring is the last thing you do, not the first thing you do. And it's about getting your culture right. If you get your culture right with your values and alignment, belonging occurs. If belonging occurs, inclusion occurs. If inclusion occurs, you will be more diverse because you're welcoming people. If you get the diversity right, you're going to be compliant because you won't get things. So it all starts with culture, starts with belonging, starts with those values.
Absolutely. And I think that, again, this is where some of the messaging has been misconstrued almost, is that, but I've done this, I've hired that and it didn't work. And what frustrates me sometimes about that is, oh, no, but we put women into leadership roles, but they weren't successful. And it's like, well, did you look at why did we actually set people up for success? Just putting someone into any role, you're not going to put a doctor all of a sudden become a lawyer and expect them to thrive because they thrive somewhere else. We have to really set people up for success. What support does somebody need to be successful in that role? And again, I think it comes back to the why. Why is this important? And understanding why this hasn't been successful in the past. And I think it's unpacking that. And I think that, again, it comes back to, do we understand the different lived experiences of people? And just because something worked for you, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to work for others.
It's this concept of the concrete cliff, isn't it, where it's really hard to break through the glass ceiling, but what happens is you get there and you realise you don't like it. You jump off the concrete cliff because it's so toxic, you don't want to be there anymore. So it really is making sure that you are, as you say, providing that support, that nurturing, recognising the equity that needs to be pumped into this circumstance. And, yeah, people might say, well, we don't need to do that with men, they just get on with it. But that's not necessarily a fair representation, because maybe these men have been nurtured already and they don't necessarily have all the skills. So maybe instead of focusing on these man attributes, we look at adaptability, learning, creation, all these other things we talk about in the future. Recognising the world of work in ten years time is completely different to the world of work today. If you look at what's happening with AI Chat GPT at the moment, the world's going crazy around AI image generation, everyone's already talking about this. AI taking over the world. And so if we're now generating content and products using AI, where do all these other roles go? So it's in the same paradigm shift as Deliverer, as Uber, as Facebook, as all these social media stuff. We didn't have that ten years ago, now we have. So we look at for ten years, the world of work is going to be phenomenally different this today, and we need to hire people who are ready for that change.
Yeah, and I love that quote, what got us here isn't what's going to get us there. And for me, that's about we have to keep evolving and responding, and the world is changing, as you said it's so rapidly. If we look back what's happened in the last four to five years, probably the last time you and I were in person together, how much has changed that we didn't foresee. And I think that, again, this is about how can we be agile, how can we be flexible, how do we adapt to these changes? And I always try and look for some of the positives. And I mean, COVID was pretty horrendous for most people. And again, I think there was some good things from that and there was some things that we really struggled with. And I know for me, not being able to see my family back in Australia was really difficult. But when I come back to thinking about COVID within the context of working, of the working world, it busted. So many myths about the way we used to work that I think kind of reinforced and prevented us from really shifting the dial when it came to an inclusion and belonging perspective. Because I used to always get told, oh, Belinda, people have to be in the office, people have to be on client sites. Well, actually in the firm I used to work with, we managed to mobilise over 300,000 people within a week. And technology has enabled that to happen and still able to deliver solutions for clients, still able to team, to still be able to collaborate and still be able to be successful. So it's always about for me, how do we reimagine, what else can we do? What can we learn to keep moving forward? And I think there's some huge opportunities that came out of that and I don't think we've quite landed on what that looks like going forward. And I know lots of people and companies are struggling with that. But I think it also opened up a huge talent pool because there was a lot of people who weren't able to participate within the workforce because of that needing to be present. Whether or not that was around getting into the cities, how expensive that is with people with caring responsibilities, people with disabilities or a number of different reasons that may have prevented people, that has now opened up. And I think for a lot of companies, the biggest challenges that they have at the moment is winning the war on talent. Or there's a lot of great talent out there. How do we think differently so that you're the one that gets access to.
That talent, and talent is more empowered, more enlightened. Talent knows different now. Talent knows it can work from home. And I often wonder what motivation is driving some of big businesses. I know the government are worried about the rail infrastructure, the underground infrastructure, not having enough people to keep it viable. We've got dead in the cities, coffee bars, cafes, all these economies closing down. So there's an immense pressure to get people back to the office just for the economies in the area without necessarily thinking about the benefit to people. And I think when I hear people talking about big global leaders talking about we need to get people back in the office because it means the creativity, mentoring, learning of each other, coffee machine, water cooler, chat. And I think, okay, I get that there is some power and some benefit of have face to face contact. I value it as well. But for me, when the answer to every question is back in the office, that's where it falls over. The answer to every question is, what can we do in this particular case? And I think we need to recognise that Back in the office is not the only answer or the default answer to everything. So it's about being more innovative. Local hubs, work clubs, that kind of stuff, in local businesses.
Yeah, I used to always laugh that often we're in the office and everybody's at their computer with their headphones on, so you can kind of do that from anywhere. So I think it's just about being creative and imaginative around how do we use certain spaces and do you come in for those collaborative days or those days for teaming? And then do you have those meetings structured in a different way? I mean, to be honest, I don't have all the answers, but I do think there's an opportunity to really think through different things. That creates more opportunity for more people to participate. And when we look at generations, and I think this is the first time in history, isn't it, that we have five generations in the workforce at one time, all with differing needs, all with differing expectations. And so how do we manage some of that? But if we don't, we are also missing, and again, comes back, right back to what I was saying at the beginning, is about how much is left on the table by not creating the right environment for people, people to thrive. And when we look at the new generations coming through, they're very clear that they will not work in an organisation or a company that does not value them for who they are. And they're demanding. I think the latest research is 80% of this community want inclusion and if they get somewhere and people aren't delivering on their promises, they're off, they're not going to stay. And that's a hugely expensive exercise for companies. So there's a real opportunity for people to get this right that benefits everybody.
Fantastic. That's an awesome place that we can close this down and draw a line there. That was immensely inspiring, that last word you said there, belinda, it's been an absolute pleasure. So how can our audience get in touch with you? What's the best way to connect?
So the best way probably to connect with me is either through LinkedIn is a great way, and often people connect with me there, either via email, so that's Belinda@belindariley.com people can find me there. I'm also on Instagram, which is at Belinda Riley, and I'm just in the process of designing and developing a new app. So when that comes out, it's going to be called beyond the barriers. So that's a nice little connection to our conversation. So I think you just type that into the App Store at some point soon and you can find me there as well.
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Creating a Safe Space: Overcoming Self-Consciousness with Belinda Riley
Advancing Diversity in the Workplace: Challenging Meritocracy with Belinda Riley
The Power of Affirmations: Changing Beliefs and Behaviours with Belinda Riley
The Business Case for Diversity: Creating a Competitive Advantage with Belinda Riley
Formal Sponsorship Programmes: A Top Tip for Advancing Diversity with Belinda Riley
Impostor Syndrome and Systemic Inequalities: Insights from Belinda Riley
Connecting with the Universal Human Experience: Understanding Exclusion and Inclusion with Belinda Riley
Overcoming Dehumanization: The Importance of Holding Our Ground with Joanne Lockwood
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In this podcast episode, Belinda Riley speaks about a range of topics related to diversity and inclusion in the workplace. She discusses the importance of being agile and flexible in response to changes in technology and the world, as well as the challenges presented by social media in terms of being aware of the impact of our actions and words. Riley also delves into the concept of meritocracy and the need for companies to promote diversity and inclusion to unlock their full potential. In addition, she talks about the rules of the mind and how understanding them can help us work with our minds rather than against them. Finally, Riley is joined by Joanne Lockwood, who talks about the dehumanization of trans people and the worrying rise of movements like incel and toxic masculinity.
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In this episode, podcast host Belinda Riley shares her insights on various topics, including being agile and flexible in response to changes in the world and technology, the challenges of social media, creating safe spaces for open conversations, recognizing privilege, promoting diversity and inclusion, the impact of sponsorship programs, combating imposter syndrome, understanding the universal human experience of feeling excluded, and the dehumanization of trans people. Along with her own experiences, Belinda cites quotes and insights from other experts to offer listeners practical tips and advice on navigating these issues in the workplace and beyond.
ℹ️ Introduction
In this episode, our guest Belinda Riley discusses the importance of being agile, flexible, and aware of the impact of our actions and decisions in response to changes in the world and technology. Belinda emphasizes the importance of diversity, inclusion, and unlearning in creating the right environment for people to thrive. She also delves into the concept of imposter syndrome and how it is compounded by systemic inequalities in the workplace and the world. Lastly, she speaks to Joanne Lockwood, a trans woman who shares her experiences and insights on the rise of movements like incel and toxic masculinity and the importance of holding our ground in promoting equality and inclusion. Tune in for an eye-opening discussion on creating a more empathetic and inclusive world.
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Belinda Riley discusses the importance of being agile and flexible in response to changes in the world and technology.
Belinda Riley highlights the challenges that social media presents to people.
Belinda Riley emphasizes that it's important to realize that we are not alone in feeling self-conscious.
Belinda Riley discusses the concept of meritocracy.
Belinda Riley discusses the rules of the mind and how understanding them can help us work with our minds rather than against them.
Belinda Riley discusses the impact of sponsorship programmes in advancing equality in the workplace.
Belinda Riley explains that she believes impostor syndrome is compounded by the systemic barriers or inequality that exists in the workplace and the world.
Belinda Riley highlights the importance of understanding the universal human experience of feeling excluded or rejected.
Joanne Lockwood is a trans woman who is aware of the anti-trans rhetoric caused by the Scottish Gender Recognition Reform Bill.
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Belinda Riley on being agile and flexible in response to changes
Challenges of social media and the importance of education and awareness
Creating a safe space to talk about issues and breaking down barriers
The need to challenge meritocracy and appreciate diversity in concrete ways
The rules of the mind and how to work with them
The impact of sponsorship programmes in advancing equality in the workplace
Impostor syndrome and its relation to systemic barriers and inequality
Understanding the universal human experience and feelings of exclusion or rejection
Joanne Lockwood on anti-trans rhetoric and dehumanization, and the rise of toxic masculinity
❇️ Key topics and bullets
Belinda Riley discusses the importance of agility and flexibility in response to changes in the world and technology
Challenges posed by social media in terms of being aware of the impact of our actions and words
Importance of creating safe space where people can talk about issues and break down barriers
Conversation around meritocracy and how it limits the full potential of a company
The rules of the mind and how to work with our minds rather than against them
The impact of sponsorship programmes in advancing equality in the workplace
Impostor syndrome and how it is compounded by systemic barriers or inequality that exist in the workplace and world
Universal human experience of feeling excluded or rejected
Joanne Lockwood's experience as a trans woman and concerns about anti-trans rhetoric and the dehumanization of trans people, incels, and toxic masculinity.
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We're excited to share with you some of the key takeaways from our latest episode on the importance of being agile and flexible in response to changes in the world and technology, presented by Belinda Riley.
Belinda highlights how COVID-19 had some positive impacts on the workplace, busting myths about the necessity of being physically present and opening up the talent pool for remote workers. She emphasizes that companies must think differently and adapt to win the war on talent.
Another key theme is the importance of being aware of the impact of our actions and words on social media. Belinda stresses the need to educate ourselves, reflect on our impact on others, and be open to learning. Recognising privilege is crucial to this process, as we must acknowledge that we see the world not as it is, but as we are.
Belinda also explores the challenges of promoting diversity and inclusion in the workplace, emphasizing that there is a business case for getting this right. She explores how sponsorship programs can help create environments where everyone can thrive, rather than simply focusing on the minority.
Another topic discussed in the episode is the phenomenon of impostor syndrome and how it is compounded by systemic barriers to equality. By understanding the universal human experience of feeling excluded or rejected, Belinda argues that we can think more compassionately and inclusively.
Finally, Belinda speaks with Joanne Lockwood about her experiences as a trans woman and the rise of anti-trans rhetoric in society. Joanne stresses the importance of holding our ground and fighting for equality, as dehumanizing anyone based on gender or identity is a worrying trend.
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Dear listener,
On this episode of the podcast, Belinda Riley delves into different topics ranging from the importance of being agile in response to changes in the world and technology, the challenges posed by social media, to the impact of sponsorship programmes in advancing equality in the workplace.
Belinda discusses how COVID-19 had some positives within the working world, such as busting myths about the necessity of being physically present and opening up a talent pool. However, the challenge now is for companies to think differently and adapt to win the war on talent.
During the episode, Belinda emphasises the importance of creating a safe space where people can talk about issues and break down barriers and urges leaders to be willing to learn and open to making mistakes.
Moving on, Belinda discusses the concept of meritocracy and how it limits company potential by missing out on the unique skills of diverse individuals. She highlights the need for difficult conversations and unlearning as necessary steps towards creating the right environment where everyone can thrive.
Belinda also delves into the rules of the mind and how understanding them can help us work with our minds rather than against them. She shares tips on how individuals can change their beliefs and behaviours, such as consistently telling themselves a different narrative.
In addition to this, Belinda discusses the impact of sponsorship programmes in advancing equality in the workplace. She believes that the responsibility for change needs to be shifted from focusing on the minority to creating the right environment for individuals to thrive. She recommends breaking down barriers, challenging the belief of meritocracy, and utilizing formal sponsorship programmes as a top tip to advance representation and diversity in the workplace.
Belinda concludes by highlighting the importance of understanding the universal human experience of feeling excluded or rejected and urging people to connect with these emotions to think in a more empathetic and inclusive way.
This episode is full of thought-provoking insights and tips about different topics, so if you haven't had the chance to listen to it yet, give it a go!
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In this week's episode, Belinda Riley provided valuable insights into how individuals and companies can adapt to changes in technology and the world. COVID-19 taught us that remote work is possible and opened up a talent pool that was previously untapped. However, companies must now think differently and adapt to win the war on talent.
Belinda also discussed the importance of being aware of the impact of our actions and words on social media. She emphasized the need for individuals to take responsibility, educate themselves, and reflect on their impact on others. Recognising privilege is crucial in this process, and we must be open to learning and understanding the barriers that some people face.
Creating a safe space where individuals can talk about issues and break down barriers is also crucial. Leaders must be willing to learn from their mistakes and promote diversity and inclusion in the workplace. Furthermore, understanding the rules of the mind and utilizing affirmations are essential in changing our beliefs and behaviours.
Belinda also discussed the benefits of formal sponsorship programmes in advancing equality in the workplace. These programmes provide individuals with access to influential networks and information, thus promoting equal opportunities.
Finally, Joanne Lockwood shared her struggles with the anti-trans rhetoric caused by the Scottish Gender Recognition Reform Bill. She highlighted the importance of holding our ground against movements like incel and toxic masculinity, which dehumanize women.
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One of the key themes in this episode is diversity and inclusion. Belinda challenges companies to understand why someone would want to work for them and how they value diversity in concrete ways. She believes that difficult conversations and unlearning are necessary steps towards creating the right environment where everyone can thrive.
Belinda also discusses the importance of understanding the universal human experience of feeling excluded or rejected. She urges people to connect with these feelings and imagine what it feels like to be the only one in a room or left out of a group.
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04:19 Imposter syndrome is compounded by systemic barriers and inequality in the workplace, particularly for women and marginalized groups. The concept of not fitting, not belonging, or not being enough is reinforced daily due to the masculine standard of success and lack of diversity in leadership positions.
11:44 Our mind responds to the words we tell it and we can work with it to achieve our desires. Affirmations are important as negative self-talk holds us back. We can change our thoughts and beliefs to shape our actions and behaviours. "Fake it till you make it" works because our minds start to believe what we tell it through consistency and repetition.
19:00 Realise you're not alone, others are more worried about themselves. Don't be harsh on yourself. Get comfortable being uncomfortable and create space for people to talk. Leaders afraid of saying wrong things should still try because not saying anything speaks louder. People are engaged when there is opportunity to have a voice.
21:32 Social media can make life challenging. Lack of awareness can lead to inappropriate comments and constant questioning about someone's origin can have a negative impact. It's important to educate ourselves and be open to learning to evolve. Recognising privilege is vital and acknowledging the barriers that certain people face. Mistakes happen, but intent and awareness are key.
30:54 Being human means experiencing rejection and exclusion. Everyone can relate to not fitting in or feeling unworthy. It's important to imagine what it's like to feel excluded every day, especially for women and black boys due to safety concerns and stereotypes. Connecting with these emotions can help shift perspectives.
33:09 The person didn't anticipate having to unlearn social constructs after transitioning, and had difficulty adjusting to safety concerns. They also reflected on their previous privileges and learned from experiences with other women.
39:10 Sponsorship programmes are effective in advancing equality in the workplace because they create a shift in responsibility and focus on enabling individuals to thrive in the right environment rather than fixing them to fit into an unsuitable environment. Affinity bias exists, leading to advantages and opportunities for those who are similar to the majority. Formal sponsorship programmes can support people facing barriers through providing access to influential networks, information, and opportunities. Active, visible, and accountable sponsorship is necessary, instead of simply mentoring others. It is important to challenge the belief of meritocracy and break down barriers to increase representation and diversity in the workplace.
46:22 Skills matter more than gender stereotypes for leadership positions and business success. Research supports this perspective. It's important to recognize and foster the right skills and capabilities in all individuals regardless of gender or background.
52:40 Be adaptable to evolving changes, and COVID allowed us to bust myths about the working world, be inclusive of more talent and technology to be successful. We need to reimagine and think differently to move forward.
56:24 Create flexible workspaces to cater to diverse generations in the workforce and improve inclusivity to retain employees and enhance productivity.
📚 Timestamped overview
04:19 "Systemic Inequality Contributes to Impostor Syndrome"
11:44 "The Power of Words: How Our Mind Works"
19:00 "Breaking down barriers and finding freedom within"
21:32 "Social media impact and lack of awareness"
30:54 "Connecting with Universal Emotions: Exclusion and Rejection"
33:09 "Unforeseen Challenges Faced Since Transitioning Gender Identity"
39:10 "Sponsorship: Shifting Accountability for Workplace Equality"
46:22 "Redefining Business Skills Beyond Gender Stereotypes"
52:40 "Adapting to Change: COVID's Impact on the Workforce"
56:24 "Creating Inclusive Workspaces for Multigenerational Workforce"
💡 Speaker bios
Belinda Riley is a renowned expert in the area of impostor syndrome and how it affects individuals, particularly women. Through her extensive research, she has discovered that impostor syndrome is a common occurrence in many people, hindering them from realizing their full potential. Belinda has made it her goal to create awareness and empower individuals to overcome their limiting beliefs and achieve success. Her work has inspired many in the business world, leading to greater innovation and opportunities for growth. Ultimately, Belinda is passionate about helping people overcome their impostor feelings and thrive in both their personal and professional lives.
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How to Build a More Agile, Inclusive, and Mindful Workplace: Lessons from Belinda Riley
Do you sometimes feel like you're not good enough or don't belong to the room or group you're in? Do you struggle to adapt to changes in technology and the world around you? Do you want to create a more diverse and inclusive workplace but don't know where to start? If you answered yes to any of these questions, you're not alone. Many people face these challenges, especially in today's complex and fast-changing work environment.
However, there are ways to overcome these challenges and thrive in both your personal and professional life. In this blog article, inspired by our episode with Belinda Riley on the topic of agility, inclusiveness, and mindfulness, we'll explore some of the key insights and actionable items she shared and offer some additional reflections and resources.
Problem: The Need for Agility, Inclusiveness, and Mindfulness in the Workplace
As Belinda Riley points out, the COVID-19 pandemic has accelerated the need for agility and flexibility in the workplace, as many people have had to work remotely and collaborate virtually. However, this shift has also exposed the myths about the necessity of physical presence and the limitations of traditional work structures. Moreover, it has highlighted the importance of recognizing the diverse talents and perspectives of people from different backgrounds and locations. As Riley argues, companies need to think differently and adapt to win the war on talent, especially as new generations enter the workforce with different expectations and values.
At the same time, social media and other forms of communication have raised new awareness of the impact of our words and actions and the need for inclusiveness and mindfulness. Riley emphasizes that it's not enough to avoid saying the wrong thing but to actively educate ourselves, reflect on our impact on others, and be open to learning. She also highlights the issue of privilege and how it shapes our worldview and interactions. As Stephen Covey famously said, "We see the world not as it is, but as we are." Therefore, to create a more inclusive and mindful workplace, we need to recognize our own biases and limitations, listen to diverse voices and perspectives, and value everyone's contributions.
Actionable Items: What You Can Do to Build a Better Workplace
Here are some of the actionable items that Belinda Riley suggests, along with some additional ones based on our own experience and research:
Foster diversity and inclusion by sponsoring diverse talent and challenging the status quo.
As Riley explains, most companies have an informal sponsorship system that favors people who resemble those already in power. To break this cycle and advance diversity and inclusion, companies need to establish formal sponsorship programs that provide underrepresented groups with access to influential networks, information, and opportunities. Moreover, companies need to challenge the belief in meritocracy, which often justifies maintaining the status quo of power and privilege. It's not enough to say that "the best person should get the job," as that reinforces the assumptions and biases that favor certain groups over others.Create a safe and open space for conversations and feedback.
Riley emphasizes the importance of creating a safe space where people can share their experiences and perspectives without fear of judgment or retaliation. This requires leaders to model vulnerability, empathy, and respect, and to actively listen and respond to feedback. It also requires establishing on-going communication channels and regular pulse checks to assess the health and well-being of the workforce and address any issues that arise.Practice mindfulness and empathy to improve your mental health and relationships.
Riley highlights the importance of understanding the rules of the mind and using affirmations and visualization to shape our beliefs and behaviors. However, she also warns against the danger of impostor syndrome and the limiting beliefs that stem from systemic inequalities and imbalances of power. Therefore, in addition to personal affirmations, it's also important to practice mindfulness and empathy towards ourselves and others. This means acknowledging and accepting our emotions, seeking help and support when needed, and extending kindness and compassion to others.Take a stand for social justice and human rights.
As Joanne Lockwood's example illustrates, the struggle for inclusiveness and diversity is not just a matter of personal preference or corporate strategy, but also a matter of social justice and human rights. Therefore, to build a more inclusive and mindful workplace, we need to take a stand against all forms of discrimination, prejudice, and oppression, and support movements and initiatives that promote equity, respect, and dignity for all. We need to challenge the anti-trans rhetoric and violence that threatens the lives and well-being of trans people, particularly trans women of color. We need to reject the dehumanization of women and femme-presenting individuals that fuels toxic masculinity and incel movements. And we need to commit ourselves to creating a better world for ourselves and generations to come.
Call to Action: Join the Movement for a Better Workplace
In conclusion, the key message of this blog article is that we need to build a more agile, inclusive, and mindful workplace if we want to succeed and thrive in the future. We need to recognize and address the challenges that face us, but also the opportunities and benefits that diversity and inclusiveness bring. We need to be proactive and intentional in our efforts, but also humble and adaptive to new information and feedback. And we need to support each other and work together towards a common vision of excellence and equity.
Therefore, we invite you to join the movement for a better workplace. You can start by sharing this blog article with your colleagues and friends, and by listening to our episode with Belinda Riley and other inspiring guests. You can also take action in small ways, such as using inclusive language, promoting cultural awareness, and supporting underrepresented groups. And you can join larger initiatives and organizations that champion diversity and inclusiveness, such as Out Leadership, Stonewall, Catalyst, and many others. Together, we can create a workplace that honors everyone's unique gifts and potential, and that maximizes our collective impact and joy.
The standout line from this episode
"We see the world not as it is, but as we are." - Stephen Covey (highlighted by Belinda Riley in the episode)
❓ Questions
How can companies adapt to attract and retain diverse talent?
What are some effective strategies for promoting diversity and inclusion in the workplace?
How do our beliefs and thoughts impact our behaviors?
What are the limiting beliefs that contribute to impostor syndrome, and how can they be overcome?
Why is it important to acknowledge and understand the experiences of marginalized and underrepresented groups?
What are some examples of informal affinity bias in the workplace, and how can formal sponsorship programs help address this issue?
How can individuals take responsibility for educating themselves and promoting diversity and inclusion?
What are some examples of how companies can effectively engage with social media?
How do women and other marginalized groups experience feelings of exclusion or rejection in different ways?
What steps can we take to reverse the trend of toxic masculinity and incel movements?
FAQs from the Episode
Title: Diversity, Inclusion, and Mental Health in the Workplace - FAQs
Why is it important for companies to diversify their workforce?
Answer: Diversifying the workforce allows companies to tap into a wider talent pool, bringing in unique skills, perspectives and ideas that can increase innovation and improve company culture. Additionally, it is essential to promote diversity and inclusivity to ensure equality of opportunity and reduce societal inequalities.How can companies create a diverse and inclusive environment?
Answer: Companies can create a diverse and inclusive environment by actively engaging with and listening to employees from diverse backgrounds, implementing formal sponsorship programs, and breaking down barriers that may prevent employees from reaching their full potential.What is impostor syndrome, and how can it be addressed?
Answer: Impostor syndrome is a psychological pattern where individuals doubt their abilities and feel like a fraud, despite evidence of their accomplishments. One way to address this is by recognizing and challenging limiting beliefs that lead to impostor syndrome, such as the belief that there are no boundaries to the idea that you are not enough, that what you want is not available to you, and that you don't fit or belong.How can companies promote mental health in the workplace?
Answer: Promoting mental health in the workplace requires creating a supportive, empathetic environment where employees feel safe and comfortable to seek help if they need it. Offering mental health resources, destigmatizing mental health issues, and addressing workplace stressors are just a few of the ways companies can promote mental health in the workplace.Why is it essential to recognize privilege and listen to people's lived experiences?
Answer: Recognizing privilege and listening to people's lived experiences are essential for creating a more inclusive environment. By doing so, companies and individuals can gain a better understanding of the barriers and challenges that some people may face and work to address them. It can help build empathy and promote a culture of respect and understanding.
Episode Tags
agility, flexibility, remote work, talent pool, social media impact, privilege awareness, self-consciousness, breaking down barriers, diversity and inclusion, impostor syndrome, exclusion and rejection, trans rights, anti-trans rhetoric, toxic masculinity
A Subtitle - A Single Sentence describing this episode
Belinda Riley explores the importance of agility, self-reflection, and sponsorship programs in breaking down barriers and promoting diversity and inclusion in the workplace on The Inclusion Bites Podcast.
Episode Summary with Intro, Key Points and a Takeaway
In this episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast, host Joanne Lockwood welcomes guest Belinda Riley to discuss the importance of being agile and flexible in response to changes in the world and technology. Belinda shares her insights on how COVID-19 has challenged traditional working practices, busting myths about the necessity of being physically present. She highlights the positives of remote work, such as increased collaboration and access to a wider talent pool. The challenge now, Belinda stresses, is for companies to think differently and adapt to win the war on talent.
Belinda goes on to explore the impact of social media on our interactions and the need for individuals to take responsibility for their actions and words. She emphasizes the importance of educating ourselves, reflecting on our impact on others, and being open to learning. Belinda also discusses the concept of privilege and how recognizing it is crucial to creating an inclusive environment.
The episode delves into the issue of feeling self-conscious and offers valuable advice. Belinda encourages listeners to realize that we are not alone in feeling this way and that people are often more preoccupied with themselves than with our perceived flaws. She highlights the necessity of creating safe spaces where conversations can take place, breaking down barriers and promoting understanding.
Furthermore, Belinda addresses the topic of meritocracy and how companies often unconsciously limit their potential by favoring individuals who resemble those already in positions of power. She challenges companies to value diversity in tangible ways and engage in difficult conversations and unlearning to create an inclusive environment where everyone can thrive.
Belinda also provides insights into the rules of the mind and how understanding them can help us work with our minds rather than against them. She explores the power of affirmations and the potential for change when we consistently tell our minds a different narrative.
Throughout the episode, Belinda emphasizes the need for awareness, education, and action. She highlights the business case for diversity and inclusion, and the importance of formal sponsorship programs in advancing equality in the workplace.
In conclusion, this episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast offers valuable insights and practical advice on breaking down barriers, embracing change, and creating inclusive environments. Belinda Riley's expertise and passion for diversity and inclusion shine through, making this episode a must-listen for anyone interested in fostering inclusivity in their personal and professional lives.
Tell me more about the guest and their views
Belinda Riley is a prominent advocate for diversity and inclusion in the workplace. She is passionate about creating inclusive environments where individuals from all backgrounds can thrive. Belinda believes that diversity goes beyond just representation and that true inclusion involves creating a culture where everyone feels valued, heard, and empowered.
Belinda emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and taking responsibility for one's impact on others. She believes that it is crucial for individuals to educate themselves, challenge their own biases, and be open to learning from others. Belinda also advocates for recognizing privilege and understanding the barriers that some individuals face due to systemic inequalities.
In her discussions, Belinda addresses the challenges posed by social media and the need for individuals to be mindful of their words and actions. She emphasizes the power of intention and highlights the importance of creating safe spaces where difficult conversations can be had without fear of persecution.
Belinda also sheds light on the importance of understanding the business case for diversity and inclusion. She believes that companies that prioritize diversity not only foster a more equitable and inclusive workplace, but also gain a competitive advantage.
Overall, Belinda's views center around the need to build awareness, challenge existing norms and beliefs, and actively work towards creating inclusive environments that value and celebrate diversity in all its forms.
Ideas for Future Training and Workshops based on this Episode
Workshop: Embracing Agility and Flexibility in a Changing World
Explore the importance of adaptability in response to changes in technology and the world.
Discuss the positive impacts of remote work and collaboration during COVID-19.
Address the challenges companies face in adapting to new ways of working and winning the war for talent.
Provide strategies and practical tools for individuals and organizations to navigate and embrace change effectively.
Training: Social Media Awareness and Impact
Educate participants on the power and impact of social media in today's society.
Discuss the responsibility individuals have in educating themselves and reflecting on their online actions and words.
Encourage participants to recognize their privilege and understand the barriers faced by marginalized groups.
Provide guidance on how to engage in productive conversations and foster inclusivity on social media platforms.
Workshop: Overcoming Self-Consciousness and Building Confidence
Address the common fear of being judged and self-consciousness.
Explore techniques to shift focus from self-doubt to self-compassion.
Emphasize the importance of creating safe spaces for open discussions and breaking down barriers.
Provide practical strategies to build confidence and engage in meaningful conversations.
Training: Creating a Diverse and Inclusive Workplace
Highlight the limitations of meritocracy in hiring and promotion practices.
Explore the importance of valuing diversity and creating an inclusive environment.
Discuss the business case for diversity, including the benefits of diverse perspectives and innovation.
Provide tools and strategies for challenging unconscious bias and fostering a culture of inclusion.
Workshop: Harnessing the Power of the Mind
Explore the rules of the mind and their impact on beliefs and behaviors.
Teach participants how affirmations and positive self-talk can shape their mindset.
Provide practical exercises to help individuals challenge and reframe limiting beliefs.
Emphasize the power of intention and creating positive narratives to align behaviors with desired outcomes.
Training: Sponsorship Programs for Equality
Educate participants on the importance of sponsorship in advancing equality in the workplace.
Discuss the advantages of formal sponsorship programs in providing access to networks and opportunities.
Provide guidance on how to implement and manage effective sponsorship programs.
Highlight the need to break down barriers and challenge the belief in meritocracy for a truly inclusive workplace.
Workshop: Overcoming Impostor Syndrome in an Unequal World
Explore the concept and impact of impostor syndrome in the workplace.
Discuss the systemic barriers and inequalities that contribute to impostor syndrome, particularly for marginalized groups.
Provide strategies for building self-confidence and resilience in the face of impostor syndrome.
Encourage individuals and organizations to address systemic inequalities to create a more inclusive and supportive environment.
Training: Building Empathy for Inclusion
Discuss the universal feelings of exclusion and the importance of empathy.
Encourage participants to connect with and understand the experiences of being the only one or feeling left out.
Provide strategies and exercises to cultivate empathy and create more inclusive spaces.
Discuss additional factors, such as safety concerns, that contribute to exclusion and the importance of addressing them.
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💡 Cultivating agility & flexibility is key in today's ever-changing world. Join me on the Inclusion Bites Podcast as we dive into how being adaptable can lead to success beyond barriers! #InclusionBitesPodcast #BeyondTheBarriers
🌍 Social media can be a double-edged sword. On this episode, we explore its impact and the importance of being responsible for our words & actions. Let's break down barriers and foster inclusivity! #InclusionBitesPodcast #BreakDownBarriers
🙌 Feeling self-conscious? You're not alone! Discover the power of creating safe spaces, breaking barriers, and truly being heard. Find your voice and embrace the journey towards inclusion! #InclusionBitesPodcast #EmbraceInclusion
🌟 Meritocracy isn't enough. It's time to value diversity as a true strength! Join us as we challenge the status quo and explore the untapped potential in our workplaces. Together, we can create a brighter, more inclusive future. #InclusionBitesPodcast #DiversityMatters
🧠 Discover the rules of the mind and unlock the power within. On this episode, we explore how our beliefs shape our reality and share tips to reprogram our minds for success. Let's empower ourselves and create a world of endless possibilities! #InclusionBitesPodcast #UnleashYourPotential
Leadership Insights - YouTube Short Video Script on Common Problems for Leaders to Address
[Opening music]
Host (Voiceover): Welcome back to the Leadership Insights Channel, where we share valuable tips and strategies to help you become a more effective and inclusive leader. In today's episode, we'll explore a common problem faced by leaders and provide actionable steps to achieve a positive outcome. Let's dive in!
[Transition slide]
Host (Voiceover): As leaders, it's essential for us to understand and address the systemic barriers that exist within our organizations. One of the key challenges we face is creating an inclusive environment where everyone can thrive.
[Visual: Business executive speaking at a meeting]
Host (Voiceover): Have you ever wondered how you can cultivate a workplace that values diversity and fosters inclusion? Here are three actions and behaviors you can adopt to make a positive impact:
Educate Yourself: Take the initiative to educate yourself about diversity and inclusion. Attend seminars, read books, and engage in training programs that can help you develop a deeper understanding of the issues faced by underrepresented groups. Remember, knowledge is power, and the more informed you are, the better equipped you'll be to drive change.
[Visual: Close-up of a person reading a book on diversity and inclusion]
Listen and Reflect: Actively listen to the experiences and perspectives of your team members. Create a safe space where they can openly share their thoughts and feelings. Reflect on your own biases and privilege. By acknowledging these factors, you'll be able to lead with greater empathy and make more inclusive decisions.
[Visual: Group of employees engaging in a respectful conversation]
Challenge the Status Quo: Break down barriers within your organization. Challenge the belief that advancing diversity means others will miss out. Encourage open dialogue and collaboration, allowing diverse voices to be heard and valued. Implement formal sponsorship programs that provide underrepresented individuals with access to influential networks and opportunities.
[Visual: A leader addressing team members]
Host (Voiceover): By taking these actions and embodying these behaviors, you can create meaningful change within your organization. Embrace diversity and foster an inclusive environment where everyone has the opportunity to contribute and succeed.
[Visual: Montage of diverse employees working together]
Host (Voiceover): Remember, as a leader, you have the power to shape the culture and values of your workplace. Let's work together to build a more inclusive future.
[Closing music]
Host (Voiceover): That's all for today's episode on the Leadership Insights Channel. We hope you found these strategies valuable. Join us next time, where we'll explore more leadership insights that will empower you to become a more inclusive and effective leader.
[End screen with channel logo and social media handles]
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Subject: [Podcast Name] - Beyond the Barriers: Unlocking the Power of Inclusion
Hey there,
How's it going? I hope you're having a fantastic day! I wanted to reach out and share with you the latest episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast with our incredible guest, Belinda Riley. Get ready to break down barriers and discover the power of agility, inclusion, and self-belief.
In this episode, Belinda dives into the importance of being agile and flexible in response to the ever-changing world and technology. She sheds light on the positive outcomes of COVID-19 that busted myths about the necessity of physical presence in the workplace, opening up doors for remote work and collaboration. Belinda emphasizes the need for companies to think differently and adapt to attract and retain top talent in the new normal.
Here are 5 powerful keys that you'll learn from this episode:
The ability to lead with empathy and understanding is crucial in creating inclusive environments that support diversity.
Recognizing and understanding privilege is a vital step towards building awareness and dismantling systemic barriers.
Sincere intent and a willingness to learn can bridge gaps and foster genuine connections.
Formal sponsorship programs can help promote diversity and inclusion in the workplace by providing access to influential networks and opportunities.
Impostor syndrome can be exacerbated by systemic inequalities, and we must challenge and change the structures that reinforce these barriers.
A unique fact that Belinda shares is that our mind responds not only to reality but also to the stories we tell ourselves. By consciously changing our narratives and consistently affirming new beliefs, we can reshape our behaviors and achieve personal growth.
Now, it's time for action! I invite you to listen to this thought-provoking episode and challenge yourself to reflect on the barriers you encounter in your own life and how you can contribute to creating a more inclusive world.
To wrap things up, let's remember that we're not alone in feeling self-conscious or excluded. By connecting with our own experiences of rejection and empathizing with others, we can foster a more compassionate and inclusive society.
Give it a listen now: [Insert podcast episode link]
Thank you for being part of our inclusive community,
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P.S. Share this episode with your friends, colleagues, and loved ones who might benefit from the valuable insights shared by Belinda Riley. Let's break down barriers together and make a positive impact on the world around us.
Potted Summary
🎙️ Intro:
In this episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast, host Joanne Lockwood invites guest Belinda Riley to discuss the importance of being agile and flexible in response to changes in the world and technology. They explore the challenges and opportunities of remote work, social media impact, self-consciousness, diversity in the workplace, the rules of the mind, and the power of sponsorship. Join the conversation as they delve into the barriers to inclusion and how we can break them down. 🌍💻🌟
💬 In this conversation, we discuss:
1️⃣ Remote work and technology boom 💼💻
2️⃣ Social media impact and responsibility 📱💬
3️⃣ Building inclusive workplaces and rules of the mind 🏢❤️🧠
💭 Here are a few of our favorite quotable moments:
1️⃣ "We see the world not as it is, but as we are." - Stephen Covey 🌍
2️⃣ "Recognizing privilege is crucial to our journey of learning and unlearning." ✨
3️⃣ "The intention is more important than the mistake." 💡
🔊 Summary: Join Joanne Lockwood and guest Belinda Riley as they delve into the barriers to inclusion and how to break them down. Discover the impact of remote work, social media, self-consciousness, diversity in the workplace, the power of sponsoring, and the rules of the mind. Gain insights, actionable tips, and a deeper understanding of the importance of building inclusive environments. Don't miss this episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast! 🎧🌈
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LinkedIn Poll
LinkedIn Poll Question: How can organizations foster diversity and inclusion? 🌍 #DiversityMatters #InclusionNow
Response 1: 💡 Educate & train! #Awareness
Response 2: 🤝 Sponsorship programs! #EqualOpportunity
Response 3: 🗣️ Create safe spaces! #OpenConversations
Response 4: 💼 Review recruitment process! #UnbiasedHiring
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🎙️ Exciting News! Just had an empowering podcast discussion on The Inclusion Bites Podcast with Belinda Riley, where we delved into critical topics reshaping our industry! 🌟
🌐 Beyond the Barriers: Breaking Down Boundaries in the Workplace 🤝
💡💼 This thought-provoking conversation has reinforced why inclusivity and diversity matter more than ever in our profession! From agile adaptation in a changing world to the power of conscious sponsorship programs, we explored the keys to unlocking a thriving, inclusive environment. 🌍
💬 Belinda Riley's insights on imposter syndrome, the impact of social media, and embracing difficult conversations were truly eye-opening. Together, we must challenge our own biases, recognize privilege, and create a safe space for growth and understanding. 🌈
🌟 Let's leverage the power of diversity and inclusion to drive innovation, foster inclusive cultures, and unlock endless possibilities for success! 🚀
#InclusionBites #BeyondTheBarriers #DiversityMatters #LeadershipMatters #StayCurious #EDIProfessional 💪💼
L&D Insights
🎙️🔍 In this episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast, Belinda Riley shares valuable insights for Senior Leaders, HR, and EDI professionals. She emphasizes the need for agility and flexibility in response to changing technology and societal shifts. COVID-19 has challenged the myth of physical presence in the workplace, encouraging remote collaboration and expanding the talent pool. To win the war on talent, companies must adapt and think differently. #Agility #Flexibility #RemoteWork
📱🗣️ Riley also addresses the challenges of social media and the importance of mindful communication. She highlights the need for individuals to educate themselves, reflect on their impact on others, and recognize their privilege. Recognizing that people may unintentionally reinforce barriers, she emphasizes the importance of intent and providing space for growth. #MindfulCommunication #ReflectAndLearn #UnintendedBarriers
💪💬 Riley discusses self-consciousness and creating safe spaces for breaking down barriers. She encourages leaders to be willing to learn, acknowledging that mistakes are part of the process. Recognizing that people are often more concerned about themselves than about others' perceptions can alleviate the anxiety of saying the wrong thing. Fostering a safe space where everyone feels heard and supported is crucial. #SafeSpaces #OpenToLearning #LeadershipGrowth
🌍💼 Riley challenges the idea of meritocracy and urges companies to value diversity as a competitive advantage. She emphasizes that promoting diversity and inclusion is not merely about ticking boxes but tapping into the unique skills and experiences of diverse individuals. Having difficult conversations, unlearning biases, and creating environments where everyone can thrive are essential steps. #DiversityMatters #InclusiveLeadership #CompetitiveAdvantage
💭💡 Riley explores the power of our minds and the role of affirmations in shaping beliefs and behaviors. Understanding the rules of the mind can help individuals work with their minds rather than against them. Consistently telling ourselves a different narrative can change our beliefs and align our behaviors accordingly. Embracing the concept of "faking it till you make it" can lead to personal and professional growth. #EmpowerYourMind #ChangeBeliefs #PersonalGrowth
🤝📈 This resource reveals eye-opening insights for Senior Leaders, HR, and EDI professionals. They should prioritize agility, flexibility, and remote collaboration. Mindful communication, self-reflection, and recognizing privilege are key elements for fostering inclusive environments. They should challenge the notion of meritocracy, value diversity, and create opportunities for everyone to thrive. Finally, they should understand the rules of the mind and harness affirmations for personal and professional growth. #InclusionBites #LeadershipInsights #BreakingBarriers #DiversityWins #PowerOfMind
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Title: "Breaking Barriers and Embracing Change! 🌟"
Hashtags: #InclusionBites #BreakBarriers #EmbraceChange #DiversityMatters #StayInclusive
[Opening shot: Exciting montage of diverse individuals working together]
Text on screen: "BREAKING BARRIERS AND EMBRACING CHANGE! 💪"
[Camera on narrator, speaking directly to the camera]
Narrator: Hi there! Today, I want to share some insightful takeaways from an amazing discussion on breaking barriers and embracing change. It's time to make a difference and create a more inclusive world. Let's dive in!
[Cut to text on screen]
Text on screen: "Acknowledge Our Privilege 🌍"
Narrator: First, we must recognize our privilege and reflect on how it impacts others. As Stephen Covey said, "We see the world not as it is, but as we are." Let's educate ourselves and be open to learning how to dismantle barriers together.
[Cut to text on screen]
Text on screen: "Create Safe Spaces 🌈"
Narrator: We must create safe spaces where everyone feels comfortable to break down barriers and talk about inclusivity freely. Remember, you're not alone in feeling self-conscious, and often, others are more worried about themselves than judging you.
[Cut to text on screen]
Text on screen: "Demand True Diversity 🌟"
Narrator: Meritocracy is a myth! Companies need to understand that true diversity brings unique skills and perspectives to the table. Let's challenge the status quo, value diversity, and create an environment where everyone can thrive.
[Cut to text on screen]
Text on screen: "Change Starts with You! 🌍"
Narrator: The responsibility for change lies within each of us. Let's shift the focus from the minority to creating the right environment for all to succeed. Embrace sponsorship programs that give everyone equal opportunities and break down systemic barriers.
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Text on screen: "Break Free from Impostor Syndrome! 💪"
Narrator: Impostor syndrome is real, but we must understand that it's often reinforced by systemic inequalities. Remember, you are enough, you deserve what you want, and you belong. Break free from these limiting beliefs and embrace your true potential.
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Text on screen: "Connect Through Empathy! ❤️"
Narrator: Let's connect with our universal human experience of feeling excluded and rejected. Imagine what it's like to be the only one in a room. By acknowledging these emotions, we can start to think in a more empathetic and inclusive way.
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Narrator: Thanks for watching! Remember, together we can make a difference. Stay connected, stay inclusive! See you next time. ✨
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Glossary of Terms and Phrases
In this episode, there are several concepts that may be considered niche or less commonly used. Here's a list of those words/phrases and their definitions as implied in the episode:
Affinity bias: The tendency to favor or show preference towards people who are similar to oneself, such as in race, gender, or background, resulting in advantages and opportunities for those individuals.
Meritocracy: The belief or system in which individuals are advanced or rewarded based on their abilities, skills, and talents, rather than on factors such as social status or connections.
Impostor syndrome: The psychological pattern where individuals doubt their accomplishments and have a persistent internalized fear of being exposed as a "fraud" despite their evident success and qualifications.
Sponsorship programs: Formal programs within organizations that pair individuals, typically from underrepresented groups, with influential leaders who advocate for them, provide guidance, and actively support their career advancement and development.
Toxic masculinity: A term used to describe harmful social and cultural expectations placed on men, which promote aggressive, dominant, and emotionally restrained behaviors, often leading to negative consequences for both men and women.
Incel (involuntary celibate): A term used to describe a subgroup of men who express extreme anger, bitterness, and resentment towards women due to their perceived lack of sexual and romantic success.
Gender Recognition Reform Bill: A specific legislation mentioned in the episode, which pertains to proposed changes in Scotland to simplify the process of legally recognizing and affirming one's gender identity.
It's important to note that these definitions are based on the context of the episode and may have broader or more nuanced connotations in different contexts.
Episode Tags
agility, flexibility, remote work, technology, social media impact, education, privilege, self-consciousness, diversity and inclusion, sponsorship programs, impostor syndrome, inclusivity, systemic inequality, human connection, anti-trans rhetoric, toxic masculinity
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Focus Keyword: "Creating Positive People Experiences and Driving Culture Change"
Title: "Beyond the Barriers: Creating Positive People Experiences and Driving Culture Change | #InclusionBitesPodcast"
Tags: Positive People Experiences, Culture Change, Agility, Flexibility, COVID-19, Myth Busting, Technology, Talent Pool, Social Media, Education, Reflection, Privilege, Unconscious Bias, Self-consciousness, Safe Space, Intention, Meritocracy, Sponsorship Programs, Impostor Syndrome, Systemic Inequality, Exclusion, Anti-trans Rhetoric, Toxic Masculinity
Killer Quote: "We see the world not as it is, but as we are." - Belinda Riley
Hashtags: #InclusionBitesPodcast, #PositivePeopleExperiences, #CultureChange, #DiversityandInclusion, #Agility, #Flexibility, #COVID19Impact, #Education, #Reflection, #UnconsciousBias, #Meritocracy, #SponsorshipPrograms, #ImpostorSyndrome, #SystemicInequality, #Exclusion, #TransRights, #ToxicMasculinity
Why Listen:
Welcome to The Inclusion Bites Podcast, where we go beyond the barriers and explore topics that drive culture change and create positive people experiences. In this episode, my guest, Belinda Riley, dives into the importance of agility and flexibility, especially in response to changes in the world and technology. We uncover the positive impact of COVID-19 in debunking myths about physical presence at work and the opportunities that technology has opened up for collaboration and talent. Belinda emphasizes the need for companies to think differently and adapt to win the war on talent.
We also tackle the challenges of social media and the responsibility to educate ourselves, reflect on our impact, and be open to learning. Belinda stresses the importance of recognizing privilege and understanding how it shapes our worldview. We discuss the unintentional reinforcement of issues and the significance of considering intent.
Belinda shares insights into overcoming self-consciousness and creating safe spaces for authentic conversations that break down barriers. We debunk the fear of saying the wrong thing and highlight the power of intent and learning.
Additionally, we delve into the concept of meritocracy and its limitations in promoting diversity. Belinda challenges companies to understand their value in concrete ways and to engage in difficult conversations and unlearning to create environments where everyone can thrive.
Lastly, we explore the rules of the mind and how understanding them can empower us to work with our minds, rather than against them. Belinda reveals the power of affirmations and dispels the myth of impostor syndrome, showing how systemic inequalities contribute to it.
Closing Summary and Call to Action:
Embrace agility and flexibility to adapt to changing world and technology.
Bust myths about physical presence at work and embrace remote collaboration opportunities.
Educate yourself and reflect on your impact on social media.
Recognize privilege and understand how it shapes your worldview.
Create safe spaces for authentic conversations and break down barriers.
Prioritize intent over the fear of saying the wrong thing.
Challenge the belief of meritocracy and understand the benefits of diversity.
Engage in difficult conversations and unlearning.
Utilize formal sponsorship programs to advance representation and diversity in the workplace.
Recognize and address the systemic inequalities that contribute to impostor syndrome.
Foster empathy and inclusivity by understanding the universal human experience of exclusion.
Stand against anti-trans rhetoric and toxic masculinity to promote a more inclusive society.
Remember, our world is constantly evolving, and it's up to us to drive the culture change we want to see. Together, we can create positive people experiences and build inclusive communities where everyone can thrive.
Outro:
Thank you for tuning in to The Inclusion Bites Podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe to our channel for more thought-provoking content. You can find additional resources and information on our website at SEE Change Happen (https://seechangehappen.co.uk) and listen to more episodes of The Inclusion Bites Podcast at (https://seechangehappen.co.uk/inclusion-bites-listen).
Stay curious, stay kind, and stay inclusive.
Joanne Lockwood
Root Cause Analyst - Why!
Key problem: Anti-trans rhetoric and dehumanization of trans people in the context of the Scottish Gender Recognition Reform Bill.
Why does anti-trans rhetoric and dehumanization of trans people exist in relation to the Scottish Gender Recognition Reform Bill?
Because there is a lack of understanding and awareness about transgender rights and experiences.
Why is there a lack of understanding and awareness about transgender rights and experiences?
Because of societal misconceptions, stereotypes, and a lack of inclusive education.
Why do societal misconceptions, stereotypes, and a lack of inclusive education exist?
Because of deep-rooted biases, discrimination, and a failure to prioritize diversity and inclusion in educational curricula and society at large.
Why do deep-rooted biases, discrimination, and a failure to prioritize diversity and inclusion persist?
Because of systemic and structural barriers within society that perpetuate inequality and marginalization.
Why do systemic and structural barriers perpetuate inequality and marginalization?
Because there is a lack of awareness, intentional action, and commitment from both individuals and institutions to dismantle these barriers and promote inclusivity.
Summary of findings:
The root cause of the problem lies in the lack of understanding and awareness about transgender rights and experiences, perpetuated by societal misconceptions, stereotypes, and a lack of inclusive education. These issues stem from deep-rooted biases, discrimination, and a failure to prioritize diversity and inclusion, which in turn are fueled by systemic and structural barriers within society. The result is the dehumanization of trans people and the proliferation of anti-trans rhetoric.
Potential solutions:
Education and awareness campaigns: Implement educational programs that promote inclusive and accurate information about transgender rights and experiences in schools and communities.
Policy reform: Advocate for policy changes that protect transgender rights and actively combat discrimination and hate speech.
Allyship and support: Encourage individuals to be allies and provide support to the trans community through awareness campaigns and resources.
Empowerment and representation: Foster greater representation of transgender individuals in positions of influence and decision-making to challenge stereotypes and biases.
Dialogue and engagement: Encourage open and respectful dialogue between different communities to foster understanding and break down barriers.
(Note: These potential solutions are recommendations within the context of the podcast and are not exhaustive or comprehensive. They should be further developed and tailored to specific needs and circumstances.)
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Focus Keyword: "Creating Positive People Experiences"
Title: Creating Positive People Experiences | #InclusionBitesPodcast
Tags: #positivepeopleexperiences, #culturechange, #diversityandinclusion, #leadership, #workplaceequality, #inclusiveculture, #diversetalent, #diverseworkforce, #inclusiveworkplace, #inclusionmatters, #diversitymatters, #equalityatwork, #workplaceinclusion, #diversityrevolution, #diversitychampion, #inclusionadvocate, #equalityforall, #empathy, #allyship, #inclusiveleadership, #diversityawareness, #equalopportunities, #diversityandinclusiontraining, #changetheculture, #inclusionstartswithi
Killer Quote: "We see the world not as it is, but as we are." - Stephen Covey
Hashtags: #diversity, #inclusion, #equality, #leadership, #diversetalent, #culturechange, #belonging, #podcast, #inclusionbites, #diversityandinclusion, #inspiration, #empowerment, #positivity, #mindset, #personaldevelopment, #changemaker, #empoweringwomen, #inclusiveculture, #diverseworkforce, #humanconnection
Summary Description: In this episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast, I dive deep into the world of creating positive people experiences with my special guest, Belinda Riley. We explore the power of culture change and how it shapes our workplaces and society. Belinda shares valuable insights on the impact of technology, social media, and sponsorship programs in fostering inclusivity and diversity. We also discuss the concept of impostor syndrome and the systemic barriers that contribute to it. Throughout the conversation, we emphasize the importance of awareness, education, and the responsibility we all have in creating an inclusive environment. Join us as we uncover the secrets to building a more diverse and equitable world. Don't miss out on this thought-provoking episode! Tune in now and be part of the change.
Outro: Thank you for tuning in to The Inclusion Bites Podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to like and subscribe to our channel for more inspiring content. Find us on the SEE Change Happen website for additional resources and information. Listen to the full episode "Beyond the Barriers" and explore the power of creating positive people experiences. Stay curious, stay kind, and stay inclusive - Joanne Lockwood.
SEE Change Happen website: https://seechangehappen.co.uk
Listen to the full episode here "The Inclusion Bites Podcast" https://seechangehappen.co.uk/inclusion-bites-listen
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🎙️ The Inclusion Bites Podcast presents: Beyond the Barriers 🌟
💭 Have you ever wondered how to navigate the changing world and technology? 🌍
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✨ Belinda Riley shares her insights on being agile and flexible in response to changes. 💪
🦠 Discover how COVID-19 revealed new ways of working and the importance of creating an inclusive talent pool. 🌟
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📱 Dive into the impact of social media on our actions and words. 😳
🌟 Learn about the importance of recognizing privilege, taking responsibility, and embracing always-learning mindset. 📚
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😰 Feeling self-conscious? You're not alone!
🌟 Belinda Riley sheds light on breaking down barriers, creating safe spaces, and the power of intention over perfection. 🌈
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🔑 Unlock the potential of diversity and inclusion in your company! 🗝️
🌟 Join the conversation with Belinda Riley as she shares insights on challenging the status quo and promoting a diverse and inclusive work culture. Tune in now! 🎧
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