You're listening to Invest in Yourself, the digital entrepreneur podcast brought to you by Phil Better Inc. If you wanna take your podcast to the next level, make sure you book your free fifteen minute call with Phil Better, the podcast mogul at w w w dot philbetter inc dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Invest in Yourself, the Digital Entrepreneur podcast. I am, of course, Phil Better. And with me is Andrew Logan, a entrepreneur from down under who, had me recently on his podcast. So I'm returning the favor. Andrew, welcome to the show.

Mate, great to be here. Thanks for having us on.

It's my pleasure. It's my pleasure. Returning the favor just like all podcasters gotta do. Andrew, please introduce yourself to my my audience because I always fail at introductions, and I rather have the guests promote themselves.

Yeah, no worries. Well, I guess, I mean, as you were saying, your podcast talking about investing and it's it's a subject I've been fascinated with for twenty years now. So I, you know, I I followed the traditional path and I had two very hardworking white collar parents and it was, you know, they they worked hard and sacrificed a lot to put us through a good school, so we got a good education, so we could then go to a good university and get a good degree. And that's what I had been told my whole life. I was academically strong. So, for my whole life, I was told, go be a doctor. You know, you gotta go to med school, be a doctor because doctors get paid a lot, and that's how you that's how you get ahead in life. And

so that's you get paid off star beautiful paycheck to let us know what you

Yeah. And and I guess, you know, that's that's what you just

brought up

with us. Kinda looking back now, I don't know if I wanted to be a doctor or I was just told from about seven years old that, oh, you're you're smart. You should be a doctor kind of thing. But, I mean, I was going down that path and I did have a I mean, I was very active. I was very sporty. So I kinda have that sports science orthopedic surgeon mindset, and I thought, oh, here's my way to to have a successful life. And then, it twenty years ago, I was at university, and I started reading books like Robert Kiyosaki's Rich Dad Poor Dad, and that was the first one. And then you start reading you know, you go down that rabbit hole and read a lot of the others.

And that's when I first started just questioning, well, actually, am I on the right path? Like, there's there's nothing specifically wrong with this path. I just don't know that it's for me. And I discovered that there are other paths and you can walk down different paths. You don't have to just go down this well trodden path that had been sort of laid out for me. So that's how I started, and I just started learning and reading and and just, you know, I I mean, I did finish my undergrad degree and get a a sports physio degree so that I had a job. But from day one, I was just fascinated with, well, I'll work nine to five to pay the bills, but then, like, six to 10PM, I'm just gonna be learning, investing, trying all these things. Made a lot of failures, a lot of expensive lessons along the way, but now we have been able to create a great lifestyle of freedom and, you know, we're at home full time with the kids and we get to well, we used to travel the world before COVID. But, yeah, we've been able to create that lifestyle for ourselves, so it's been all worth it in the end.

Yeah. That's that's perfect. You like you said, you had some failures, and we're gonna touch on that a bit later. We're gonna first concentrate on your successes and that. But so what would you consider your first real success in your either entrepreneurial or in your biz in your, real life world?