Writers, Ink Podcast #280 Steve Berry

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Certainly! Here are five questions you can use to spark discussion among your co-hosts, drawing from Steve Berry's insights during the interview: 1. Steve Berry advises against writing what you know and instead suggests writing what you love. How has this approach influenced your own writing projects, and have you ever faced challenges when choosing between familiarity and passion? How important is personal interest in sustaining long-term writing projects? 2. Berry talks about the critical role of the 'little voice' that motivates him to write despite facing multiple rejections. Can you share any personal strategies or experiences that help you recognize and respond to your own creative 'little voice'? How do you stay in tune with that internal motivation during challenging times? 3. Berry discusses how a novel "finds" him and stresses recognizing an idea when it jumps out. Have there been moments in your writing career where an unexpected idea shaped a major part of your work? How do you organize or capture these spontaneous ideas to develop them into full narratives? 4. Berry's methodology involves pre-researching and outlining future projects while writing current ones. How do you manage writing multiple projects at various stages? What techniques do you employ to switch between different narrative threads or ensure continuity in theming or character development across works? 5. With Berry's books balancing accurate historical detail and creative narrative, how do you navigate the balance between factual precision and creative storytelling in your own writing? Are there specific resources or approaches you use to integrate research effectively without overwhelming the narrative?

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1. Steve Berry’s Journey: From Lawyer to Bestselling Author 2. The Power of Persistence: Steve Berry on Overcoming Rejections 3. Writing What You Love: Steve Berry's Advice for Aspiring Authors 4. Inside the Mind of Thrill-Seeker Steve Berry 5. Crafting Thrillers: Steve Berry Discusses His Writing Process 6. Steve Berry: Turning Passion into a Writing Career 7. Navigating Genre Waves: Steve Berry on Thrillers and Romantasy Trends 8. The Evolution of Cotton Malone: A Character Deep Dive 9. Steve Berry’s Journey to 27 Novels: Lessons in Dedication 10. History Comes Alive: How Steve Berry Weaves Research into His Thrillers

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writing, Steve Berry, publishing, literary agents, thriller genre, book series, writing process, historical research, history, persistence, New York publishing houses, rejection, The Amber Room, Da Vinci Code, Dan Brown, Random House, action history secrets conspiracies, Cotton Malone, Medici family, palio, Tuscany, research, manuscripts, writer's digest, international suspense thriller, novel structure, book a year, History Matters, International Thriller Writers, TV adaptation, writer's advice

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Steve Berry, an acclaimed author, embarked on his writing journey later in life, penning his first words at the age of 35. Despite this late start, he discovered a deep-seated passion for storytelling, which he had subconsciously ignored for a decade. During the 1980s, Berry experienced a persistent inner voice urging him to write, a common phenomenon among writers that he only came to recognize and understand later. This realization prompted him to embrace his creativity, marking the beginning of his successful career in literature. Berry's story serves as a testament to the power of intuition and the timeless nature of artistic pursuits.

ℹ️ Introduction
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Welcome to another exciting episode of Writers, Ink Podcast! In today’s discussion, host Christine Daigle sits down with renowned author Steve Berry to explore the intricate journey of his writing career. Despite beginning his writing path later in life at age 35, Steve’s persistence and passion for crafting stories led him to become a bestselling thriller author, renowned for his Cotton Malone series. Steve shares his insights on staying resilient through 85 manuscript rejections before his big break, offers valuable advice on navigating the literary world, and discusses the art of mixing historical accuracy with fiction. Moreover, he delves into his creative process, revealing how he keeps his narratives fresh and compelling, and provides a glimpse into the extensive research that backs his thrilling tales. Steve’s journey is a testament to dogged determination and love for storytelling, making this episode a must-listen for aspiring writers and devoted readers of thrillers alike. Join us as we uncover the craft of a master storyteller who turned setbacks into stepping stones for success.

📚 Timestamped overview
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00:00 "Writing: Don't Follow Clichés"

05:27 "Da Vinci Code's Genre Revival"

07:40 DIY Agent Mailings

11:18 Thriller Genre's Shift to Romantasy

13:35 "The Last Medici Mystery Unveiled"

17:29 Balancing Novel and Information

20:34 "Unique Yet Cohesive Novel Formula"

23:04 Community-Funded Historic Preservation Workshops

25:41 Self-Taught Writing Mastery

❇️ Key topics and bullets
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Certainly! Here's a comprehensive sequence of topics covered in the transcript, with sub-topic bullets below each primary topic: 1. Getting Started in Writing - Steve Berry began writing at age 35 - He ignored an inner voice urging him to write, eventually started in 1990 - Advice against writing what you know; instead, write what you love 2. Early Writing Career - First manuscript took 12 months to complete - Berry kept only his first manuscript - Persistence through multiple rejections before first publication 3. Publishing Journey - Submitted eight manuscripts over 12 years - Rejected 85 times before success - Finally published with "The Amber Room" in 2003 4. Working with an Agent - Obtained an agent, Pam Ahern, who remained supportive through rejections - Discusses difficulties of getting an agent versus a publisher 5. Writing and Persistence - Continued writing alongside a legal career - Managed a routine to write early in the morning 6. Genre and Market Changes - Transition from spy novels to international suspense thrillers - Influence and timing with the release of The Da Vinci Code 7. Building a Brand - Importance of having an audience and brand in a declining thriller genre - Steve Berry as a recognized brand in publishing 8. Character Development for Cotton Malone - Characteristics and appeal of the protagonist, Cotton Malone - Books featuring Malone as stand-alone novels 9. Research and Writing Process - Significant research involved for historical accuracy - Researching prior to finishing a current novel to prepare for the next 10. Writing Strategies - Balancing historical accuracy with suspense - The importance of mixing information with action 11. Series Continuity - Keeping a series consistent yet unique with each installment - Strategy inspired by Lee Child’s Reacher series 12. Potential Television Adaptation - Discussions about a Cotton Malone TV adaptation, no confirmation yet 13. History Matters Initiative - A foundation started by Steve Berry and his wife for historic preservation 14. Involvement with International Thriller Writers - Founding member of the International Thriller Writers group - Contributions to the organization, including co-presidency 15. Advice for Aspiring Writers - Encouraging writers to listen to the inner voice and continue writing - Importance of self-education in learning to write This sequence outlines the major topics and subtopics discussed within the transcript, providing a structured overview of the conversation.

🎞️ Clipfinder: Quotes, Hooks, & Timestamps
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Steve Berry 00:00:35 00:00:35

"Embracing the Writer's Inner Voice": "I now know that every writer has a little voice in their head telling them to write. They're actually born with that little voice in the head that tells them to write."

Steve Berry 00:01:08 00:01:10

"Rethinking Writing Advice: Do not write what you know."

Steve Berry 00:02:00 00:02:38

"The Long Road to Success": "Ninety percent of all writers do not finish what they start, but I finished it. Well, over the course of the next eleven years, I wrote seven more manuscripts. So I wrote eight manuscripts over twelve years. Finally, five of those went to New York publishing houses. They were rejected 85 times. I made it on the eighty sixth time twelve years after I started, and that was The Amber Room in 02/2003. And now here we are 26 novels later, and I get to keep doing it. So I had a very long process to get here, but it was worth it in the end."

Steve Berry 00:03:26 00:03:37

Persistence Pays Off: "She was there all the way through. Why she stuck with me, I have no idea. She should have fired me long ago. But, she told me later, she said, that I just had a feeling we were gonna make it one day."

Steve Berry 00:05:27 00:05:41

The Da Vinci Code Effect: "And then in 02/2003, Da Vinci Code came out, and Da Vinci brought the genre back, but not as a spy thriller, but as action history sequence conspiracies, as an international suspense thriller."

Steve Berry 00:13:35 00:14:17

"The Hidden Stories Behind Historical Debts": "It will never ever reveal itself. But if you can put yourself in the right situation, the idea will jump out in front of you. And your job is to recognize it when it jumps out. And so it did jump out, and I realized there was a novel here. And I put together this whole thing around the pledge of Christ and the pope, Julius the second, and the money he borrows from the Medici, and the debt that's still owed today, and the fact that who's gonna be the next pope and the next prime minister of Italy hinges on the balance of cotton finding not only the pledge of Christ, but the last Medici. The the Medici family died out in 1743. It no more heirs. It went extinct."

Steve Berry 00:17:29 00:17:38

Balancing Act in Fiction Writing: "You've got people who read our genre want information, but they don't want too much of it because we're not writing a textbook. We're writing a novel."

Steve Berry 00:18:47 00:19:17

"Exploring Fiction Without Crossing Borders": "Two books I did. The Emperor's Tomb, I did not go to China, but I had a friend of mine who did. And he brought me back a lot of pictures and answered all my questions. And then I did not go to Antarctica for the Charlemagne pursuit. Though I'm gonna go to Antarctica in a couple of years. Couple of years from now, I wanna go really bad. So we're gonna make that trip in a couple of years. But, those are the two exceptions where I did not do any, I did not do did not go to the scenes on in those two books."

Steve Berry 00:20:50 00:20:56

"Crafting a Standalone Series": "And so each one fits in the series, but it also stands on its own two feet too. And that's what you want."

Steve Berry 00:23:16 00:23:34

"Empowering Communities through Writing": "We go into a community and we do a writer's workshop where we teach writing. You buy your way in with a contribution, dollars 200, dollars 3 hundred. That money goes to the project. We don't charge to come. We don't charge expenses. And then, you know, basically, the writers get taught, and the project gets money."

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On this episode of Writers, Ink, Christine Daigle sits down with bestselling author Steve Berry, who shares his inspiring journey of perseverance in writing. Despite starting at 35 and facing 85 rejections over 12 years, Steve emphasizes the power of persistence and passion for what you love, not just what you know. He also delves into his successful Cotton Malone series, revealing his meticulous research process and the importance of writing daily. Whether you're a new writer or looking for motivation, Steve's story proves that dedication and a bit of luck can lead to lasting success.

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🎙️ Just wrapped up an insightful episode with Christine Daigle on the "Writers, Ink Podcast" featuring best-selling author Steve Berry. Steve shared his incredible journey from law to authoring 27 novels, filled with persistence, passion, and a bit of luck. Here are three key takeaways for aspiring writers: - **Start with Passion**: Steve emphasized the importance of writing what you love rather than just what you know. It's the passion for your subject that will drive you through the challenges of the writing process. - **Persistence Pays Off**: Steve's path to success wasn't easy. It took him 12 years and 85 rejections before landing his first publishing deal. His story is a powerful reminder to persevere and continue improving your craft. - **Stay Open to Change and Opportunity**: The resurgence of a genre and an alignment with market trends can create new opportunities. Steve found success with "The Amber Room" alongside the rise of similar thrillers like "The Da Vinci Code." Whether you're in the process of writing your first novel or navigating the publishing world, Steve's journey offers valuable insights. Keep writing, stay resilient, and be ready for when the right moment comes! 📚✍️ #WritingCommunity #AuthorJourney #PodcastHighlights

🗞️ Newsletter
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Subject: Finding Your Writing Voice with Steve Berry Hello Writers! We hope this newsletter finds you inspired and ready to put pen to paper (or fingers to keyboard). In our latest episode of the Writers, Ink Podcast, we had an engaging conversation with bestselling author Steve Berry. He shared some insightful tidbits about his writing journey—from starting late in life to becoming a prolific author with 27 novels to his name. Here are some key takeaways from our discussion with Steve Berry that might ignite your own writing journey: 1. **The Importance of Persistence**: Steve started writing at the age of 35, a decision he mentions he wishes he had made earlier. Despite facing 85 rejections over 12 years, he persisted until he found success with his debut novel "The Amber Room." His journey is a testament to perseverance and dedication. 2. **Write What You Love**: Contrary to the popular advice of writing what you know, Steve encourages writers to write what they love. This passion will drive your creativity and keep you engaged with your work. If what you love and what you know overlap, you're in a great place! 3. **The Voice in Your Head**: Every writer has a little voice telling them to write. Steve ignored this for years but eventually let it guide him to success. Don’t ignore your own voice. 4. **Research, Research, Research**: For those writing historical thrillers, Steve stresses the importance of thorough research. He dives into 300 to 400 books per novel to ensure historical accuracy, and he's continuously learning new things that feed into his novels. 5. **Building a Brand**: Over the years, Steve has cultivated a loyal readership. His novels are now a brand unto themselves, proving that consistency and quality writing pay off. 6. **Advice for Aspiring Writers**: According to Steve, the secret is simple—write. No one can teach you how to write, but they can guide you on teaching yourself. Listen to that little voice and keep practicing. In addition to our conversation with Steve, we explored the role of patience in the writing process and the evolving thriller market. Plus, we discussed his foundation, History Matters, dedicated to historic preservation through unique writing workshops. Whether you’re a seasoned writer or just starting out, we hope Steve's journey inspires you to follow your own writing path with resilience and enthusiasm. Happy writing! The Writers, Ink Podcast Team P.S. Don't forget to check out Steve's latest novel, "The Medici Return," and immerse yourself in another thrilling Cotton Malone adventure!

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🚀 Ever wondered how late is too late to start writing? Check out the inspiring journey of bestselling author Steve Berry, who didn't pen his first word until age 35! 🖋️ #WritingCommunity #AmWriting 1/ 🕒 Steve Berry began writing at 35, driven by a small voice urging him to write. It took him 12 whole months to finish his first novel. 📚 #Persistence 2/ 🌟 Contrary to common advice, Steve says: "Write what you love, not just what you know." His first attempt was a legal thriller, which he admits was a "good story told horribly."😅 #WritingTips 3/ 📅 Over 12 years, Steve wrote 8 manuscripts. The breakthrough? "The Amber Room" in 2002/2003, after a staggering 86 rejections! Talk about perseverance! ✨ #NeverGiveUp 4/ 🔍 Getting an agent is harder than publishing, says Steve. Yet, Pam Ahern stuck with him through 85 rejections. Sometimes, you just need one person to believe in you. 💪 #AgentAdvice 5/ 🧠 Steve found success with action, history, secrets, and conspiracies just as the genre rebounded with "The Da Vinci Code." His advice? Stay in the game to catch your big break! 🎯 #GenreRevival 6/ 🔧 Fun Fact: Steve learned to write a book a year long before eBooks existed, ensuring he was ready when opportunity knocked. 📖 #ProTips 7/ 📚 Research is key! Steve delves into 300-400 sources per book to ensure accuracy. His wife, Elizabeth, helps keep the balance of fact and fiction. Teamwork! 📝 #BehindTheScenes 8/ 🌍 Steve travels extensively for his books. But for those times he can't, like in Antarctica, photos and friends help bring the setting to life. 🗺️ #ResearchGoals 9/ 🎥 TV Adaptation? The door is open, but Hollywood moves at its own pace. Wouldn't it be cool to see Cotton Malone come to life on screen? 📺 #AdaptationDreams 10/ 🌐 Through his "History Matters" foundation, Steve supports local communities in preserving history – combining his love for the past with a passion for teaching! ❤️ #Preservation 11/ 🤔 Newbie writers, take note: Start now! There's no shortcut. Write every day, and find mentors to learn how to teach yourself to write. #WritingAdvice ✨ Dive into Steve Berry's world, where history meets thriller in an exciting dance of creativity and determination. Start your writing journey today! 🖋️ #Inspiration 🔗 More about Steve Berry: [steveberry.org](http://steveberry.org)

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Here are 10 discussion questions based on the transcript of the episode with Steve Berry on the Writers, Ink Podcast: 1. What were some of the challenges Steve Berry faced early in his writing career, and how did he overcome them? 2. How does Steve Berry view the advice "write what you know" compared to "write what you love"? What impact did this perspective have on his writing journey? 3. What role did persistence and resilience play in Steve Berry's journey to becoming a successful author? 4. How did the changing trends in the thriller genre impact Steve Berry's career, and how did he adapt to those changes? 5. What strategies did Steve Berry use to manage writing while maintaining a full-time career as a lawyer? 6. Discuss the importance of staying in the game and creating your own luck, as emphasized by Steve Berry. How can writers apply this advice to their own careers? 7. What approach does Steve Berry take towards research for his novels, and how does it contribute to the authenticity of his stories? 8. How does Steve Berry maintain a balance between historical accuracy and creative storytelling in his thrillers? 9. Discuss the significance of Steve Berry's advice to aspiring writers about listening to the "little voice" in their head. How can this advice help new writers? 10. How does Steve Berry's involvement with History Matters and the International Thriller Writers organization reflect his commitment to the writing community and historical preservation?

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1. "Steve Berry didn't write until he was 35! His journey shows it's never too late to chase your passion. Persistence is key, and sometimes the right genre resurgence—like the post-Da Vinci Code—can shape success. Keep writing!" 2. "Caught in a rut? Steve Berry wrote eight manuscripts over 12 years before hitting it big. His advice: Write what you love, not just what you know. Keep forging ahead, your breakthrough might be around the corner!" 3. "Writing thrillers? Balance action and info. Steve Berry's advice: blend accurate history with thrilling suspense. It's not a textbook, it's a novel! What's your favorite historical tidbit in a novel?" 4. "Want a long-lasting career in writing? Steve Berry preps for three novels at once to maintain a book-a-year pace. Consistency and a strategic approach can make you an author brand like him!" 5. "Not bound by order! Steve Berry's 'Cotton Malone' series can be read in any sequence. Each book stands alone while rewarding loyal readers with hidden connections. Dive in with the plot that intrigues you most!"

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