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The Inclusion Bites Podcast

Healthcare with a Heart

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Joanne Lockwood

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Susie Green

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00:00 Understanding and Supporting a Trans Child 06:18 Finding Support in Community 11:06 Support for Vulnerable Minorities 19:23 Unfazed by False Criticism 22:33 "Online Criticism Turned Humour" 30:43 CAS Report's Bias on Puberty Blockers 35:39 Trans Healthcare Discrimination Issues 39:50 Challenges in Trans Youth Healthcare 45:17 Timely Legal Advice Ensured…

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“Ever wondered what it truly takes to create a world where everyone not only belongs but thrives?”
— Joanne Lockwood
“I've noticed the kind of attack vector more over the last few years into trans people are predators. Trans people are trying to all the trans people are now trying to destroy the lives of young children and ruin their lives and mutilate their bodies with chemicals, chemicals, and surgery, and life changing or operations before they're even 10. Painting this picture of this big chunky trans woman with a knife in one hand and a bottle of pills in the other, forcing it down a trans child's throat.”
— Joanne Lockwood
“The things that they say about me, they don't bother me because they're not true.”
— Susie Green
“But seriously, does my bum look big in this?”
— Susie Green
“Because access to their health care for their kids looks like it's gonna be shut down. And clinics are acting in advance of the order actually coming into law as well and turning peep you know, turning young people away from clinic appointments for blockers and stuff.”
— Susie Green

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Joanne Lockwood

Welcome to Inclusion Bites, your sanctuary for bold conversations that spark change. I'm Joanne Lockwood, your guide on this journey of exploration into the heart of inclusion, belonging, and societal transformation. Ever wondered what it truly takes to create a world where everyone not only belongs but thrives? You're not alone. Join me as we uncover the unseen, challenge the status quo, and share stories that resonate deep within. Ready to dive in. Whether you're sipping your morning coffee or winding down after a long day, let's connect, reflect, and inspire action together. Don't forget, you can be part of the conversation too. Reach out to jo.lockwood@seechangehappen.co.uk to share your insights or to join me on the show.

Joanne Lockwood

So adjust your earbuds and settle in. It's time to ignite the spark of inclusion with Inclusion Bites.

Joanne Lockwood

And today is episode 155 with the title, Healthcare with a Heart. And I have the absolute honor and privilege to welcome Susie Green. Susie is the cofounder and co director of Anne Health, dedicated to providing compassionate, accessible health care for trans people of all ages. And when I asked Susie to describe her superpower, she said that it is empowering trans kids and their families with care, resilience, and love. Hello, Susie. Welcome to the show.

Susie Green

Lovely to be here, and, good morning.

Joanne Lockwood

Yeah. I've been looking forward to this. We we Chesed, I think, on LinkedIn probably 6 months ago, then we met at the Trans of the City Awards night, back in November on, Trans Day of remembrance or no. Trans AF Wish of Visibility, wasn't it? Yeah.

Susie Green

Yeah. Yeah.

Joanne Lockwood

And, yeah, I'm I've I've been a huge fan of the work you've done. I've I've come across you and your organizations in in over the years. So it's a real honor. So you've been at the forefront, as I probably just implied, of trans health care and supporting people for years. So what first inspired you to do this?

Susie Green

Well, it was having a trans kid. And before I knew I had a trans kid, I knew nothing about trans rights, trans kids, trans people in general. I was, you know, completely oblivious and knew nothing. But when my daughter told me that god had made a mistake and and she should have been a girl at 4 years old, I had to learn, and I had to learn quickly because I needed to be there to support her. And as her biggest advocate, I needed to learn what I could do and what was out there. And I I knew nothing, absolutely nothing. I didn't. I knew of the existence of trans people, obviously, but I certainly, I suppose, I just hadn't really thought about the fact that trans trans adults were trans kids.

Susie Green

You know? They had to have been trans kids. So having a trans kid was, a bit of a wake up call for me, and it took a lot of digging and searching and trying to find out what I could do to best support her, including, you know, going to the GP. I found the website of mermaids online and phoned the helpline number when when Jackie was 6 because by this point, I'd spent a lot of time telling her it was okay to be a boy and like girl things, and she just kept telling me that, no, she was a girl. That's 2 years of literally sort of ignoring what she was telling me and trying to reiterate a different reality to her, and she never wavered. So at 6, I, found the mermaids website online and and called them and sort of that set in motion things that sort of have have ended up with me here where I am now.

Joanne Lockwood

So just put some context in that. Your daughter is now in her twenties or thereabouts?

Susie Green

Early thirties.

Joanne Lockwood

Early thirties. Wow. It's early thirties. So we're talking about a considerable amount 25 years ago, give or take here.

Susie Green

Yeah. A long time. Yeah.

Joanne Lockwood

So we we you can't escape but notice the the opinions and rhetoric in the world around trans people, trans children, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. We're going back to an era here of 2,000 ish, 9,200,021, where it was pre equality act 2010, pre gender recognition act 2004. It was pre Facebook, really. So how did you find people to support you? Because in those days, it was like the wild west, I guess. There was no information.

Susie Green

I mean, I found a single paragraph in a book on raising boys that talked about girly boys and said that they were likely to be gay. That was it. And then when she asked me at 4, you know, that's when that's when I found that paragraph in the book, saying that she she would be gay. And I kind of was waiting for that narrative to to switch, but she never she never stopped saying that this is who she was. So I think it was, it was an Ask Jeeves search, so it was likely

Joanne Lockwood

So let's go back and read it. Ask Jeeves.

Susie Green

Isn't it? Ask Jeeves. Yeah. And I think I typed in something like my son says says I want to be a girl. And Mermaids was one of, like, 3 sites that came up. And the only one that I could actually get through to there was I think the Beaumont Trust was another one. They had a phone number, but nobody was answering, and Mermaids was about 3 or 4 down. And I spoke to one of the founder members. I think Mermaids had been going for about 4 years by that point.

Susie Green

And I spoke to one of the founder members and had a conversation. It was the first time I spoke to anybody who understood what it felt like because the lady that I spoke to had a 70 a then 17 year old trans daughter. The relief was immense. It was just enormous to to know that somebody else was was living through this and had some answers for me and some direction. I think I cried for, like, probably the majority of that conversation because it was I don't know. I suppose I I was expecting a different outcome. I was afraid of verbalizing what I knew was happening, But I just got this, this huge outpouring of love and support, and I then joined the there was a Yahoo group, online Yahoo group that I joined. I think there were about 30 people across the UK that were on that group, and I joined that group and started talking to to other families, parents with with kids.

Susie Green

And I suppose that really was was kind of it for the next sort of 4 to 5 years. Excuse me. They told me about the Tavistock Gender Identity Service, and I went back to my GP who I'd spoken to when Jackie was 4 and told me initially that that God had made a mistake and she was really a girl. And I went back to I went to the GP, and she said, oh, he'll grow out of it. No signs of that happening still.

Joanne Lockwood

You'd hope that at

Susie Green

30 30 something. Yeah. At 30 something. But yeah. So that was where that's what that was where I got the the initial support and that for, like, the first few years, I was just a member of that parents group, I wasn't really actively doing very much other than just seeking support and speaking to other families as I needed. Very strange. It's a long time ago.

Joanne Lockwood

I know. I know. You said growing out of it. I suppose in my own life, I've grown into it rather than growing out of it. It's like it's finding that comfy pair of slippers or that that I snuggly it off and go, this this is me. It fits. And, Yeah. Yeah, there's no out.

Joanne Lockwood

It's definitely definitely in. So, you know, a lot of the rhetoric you hear today is around if we educate our children to be about trans awareness and gender identity, all these genders, What that's gonna do is it's gonna persuade them it's a good idea, and they should do it. It yeah. I'm I'm obviously saying that tongue in cheek, you know. Yeah. It's Yeah. That's that's the rhetoric that's, that's prevalent in today's mainstream media and and the world, isn't it?

Susie Green

And why would anybody choose this? It's really hard. Why would anybody choose this? It it's it's an alien concept to me that that you would, as a as a person, you would especially now with with all of the anti trans narratives taking up so much space in media and, everywhere. Why would you choose this? You just wouldn't. I speak to families day in, day out. I speak to young people day in, day out. And if this wasn't the only way that they could live Right. The this they wouldn't choose this because it's hard. It's really hard.

Susie Green

And it's getting harder because the narrative is getting worse and worse, and people are being basically, they're being made to feel ashamed of who they are, which is horrible and really disturbing. And as, you know, as you say, it's it's it's simply a question of being able to live authentically. Everybody else has gets to do that. Why shouldn't trans people have the same right? It's and why does it affect anybody else? It's nobody else's business.

Joanne Lockwood

Yeah. I don't know about you, but I've noticed the the kind of attack vector more over the last few years into trans people are predators. Trans people are trying to all the trans people are now trying to destroy the lives of young children and ruin their lives and mutilate their bodies with chemicals, chemicals, and surgery, and life changing or operations before they're even 10. Painting this picture of this big chunky trans woman with a knife in one hand and a bottle of pills in the other, forcing it down a trans child's throat. That's that's what keeps that's in people's heads, isn't it? We're scaring people into believing that this is some sort of bad thing

Susie Green

to help people help young children. I tell you, there's a there's a picture that I saw on social media the other day because I you know, I'm obviously a lot of people's favorite person. And, there's a picture of me and it's that it's like a a cartoon image of me with a big grin with a big needle in my hand. It's just just really, really stupid. It's and it's you look at what's going on the narratives that are being said. These people who are pushing these narratives, there are so many things in the world in terms of injustices and things that that they could be concentrating on. Instead, they choose to persecute a vulnerable minority and make their lives so much harder than they than it they need to be. And they're doing this with this almost over overzealous rigor to to basically stamp trans people out of existence.

Susie Green

Yet there are so many things that do actually need that level of concentrated effort to to address, including, you know, violence against women. And they're choosing to to go after trans kids and trans women in particular instead. And it just I don't know. It I it completely baffles me. I have I just can't understand that. I just can't understand it. Why on earth do they have such a focus on something that is never gonna impact their own lives? And why do they think it's okay to to go after kids and and and to make out that they should be ashamed of who they are and and that their inherent being is is wrong. I just find it find it really difficult to come to terms with that that level of venom is is being constantly addressed at at children and trans women in as I say in particular.

Susie Green

Why? Why do you look look at climate change? You know, for goodness sake, you need some concentration on things like violence against women, against climate change, against, you know, corruption in politics and and within the system. You know, we've we've got we've got these these very, very rich men at the center of of, you know, billionaires, nearly trillionaires, obviously, who are basically manipulating the population. Why aren't they concentrating on what's being done to, you know, everyone who isn't in those positions and highlighting the injustices of all of those things rather than going after a vulnerable minority who are simply just trying to get on and live their lives. That's all. I've got lots of of transgender people in my lives as well as well as my daughter who I love very much, And that's all they wanna do. They just wanna get on and live.

Joanne Lockwood

Yeah. I mean, I look you look at the news, they look at all these atrocities and terrible things that are going on. And none of them are trans people. We're talking about No. Not. Leading figures in churches and faith groups. We're talking about leading people in sports organizations. We're talking about people leading people in communities, protecting each other in the as you say, in these groups of of of of privilege who are kind of keeping silent.

Joanne Lockwood

And then say, well, but they're a nice person, really. Yeah. They just they just turned away to the dark side for a bit. We need to let them. It's in you you look at those things. And none of these people are trans. None of these people are pretending to be trans or or using it as an excuse. And it's like, that's the frustration.

Joanne Lockwood

We see cisgender women murdering children, babies. None of those people are trans. So that I I think that's that's the frustration that I as a as a trans woman and many other trans people face thinking, hang on a minute. There are other people out there doing what you're saying, but it's not anyone who's saying they're trans. Yeah. And that's so frustrating. So frustrating.

Susie Green

So frustrating. And the narrative has has gained ground in in by the general population's head. You know? They're they're listening and seeing this. And even the though there is no evidence of of what is being said. I had a I remember a conversation that I had about 6 months ago with somebody where she went, oh, it's just gone too far now. She's like, you know, they're trying to take the word mother out of pregnancy materials. And I went, no. They're not.

Susie Green

They're not. And she was like, what what do you mean? I said, no. They're not. I said, they're adding in additional stuff so so that it it supports, you know, people who are are not female, who have a uterus and who may want to have babies, but they don't will never see themselves as, you know, mother or mom because they're not. I said, so they're adding in. I said, they're not taking away. I said, it it's just nonsense. And why why would that be something why would anybody want to, you know we don't get more rights at at the detriment of others.

Susie Green

It just means the world is more equal for everybody. I said it's and she actually said, you know, I feel embarrassed now because, actually, I've realized that I've I've been taken in by the rhetoric. And Yeah. That's the headlight. How easy how easy was that?

Joanne Lockwood

I know. You're

Susie Green

tough. Easy was that for you to lead that

Joanne Lockwood

in your

Susie Green

life? Yeah.

Joanne Lockwood

Yeah. That's the lead. Taking the word mother out, destroying thousands of years of language and Yeah. Is it? But but the target is still trans women. Yeah. It's me that's, yeah, that's causing this. And I and I can't hang on a minute. I'm a woman.

Joanne Lockwood

I'm trans woman. I don't wanna take the word mother out. I've got no interest in in in degendering language. It's not I I'm gendered. Yeah. What we're using is is the non binary people who want to get this recognition. And suddenly, it's a trans woman problem as being part of trying to destroy society. And it's like, hang on a minute.

Susie Green

Or Never. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. This is not this was not the intention. This was never. It was about being more inclusive, not less.

Susie Green

And and and they just they this fake outrage.

Joanne Lockwood

I know. I get blamed for gender neutral toilets. It's like, I don't want I don't I don't care about gender toilets. I mean, yes, They're nicer. They're easier. They're more convenient. The shopping centers and car parks, things like this. Great.

Joanne Lockwood

I'm happy with just a toilet. Yeah. Something I can shut the door. Well, I'm not banging on about this, that, and the other. And it's again, these arguments are being conflated with sort of, like, gender outrage, trans women, and poor trans men are just going, just get let me grow my beard and get on with life. It's kind of thing.

Susie Green

Yeah. Yeah. I know. It's it's exhausting. And I can see why a lot of the community are so burnt out and, you know, and and they're stepping back and why people who are in the public eye who are being attacked constantly, why they might feel, I don't know, not just tired tired of of being blamed for something that, you know, is not their fault.

Joanne Lockwood

You've, you've obviously been in the public eye for 15, 20 years, probably, I guess quite a bit, especially through your role within mermaids and what you're doing now, which we'll talk about in a minute. It's pretty brutal out there, isn't it? The attention you get, the the negative attention that what people accuse you of.

Susie Green

I mean, it's quite funny, really. I mean, I know the truth. You know, that's the that's the thing for me. I speak to I speak to the young people. I speak to the families. I speak to, you know, as I say, so many people in my life now that I love are are trans because of, obviously, the direction that, my life has taken. But I I know the truth. So I read this stuff and it actually just makes me laugh, really.

Susie Green

The the the venom and the and the the stuff that's aimed at me, it's quite funny, because none of those things are true. I don't I'm I I stopped a long time ago worrying about what other people's opinions who hold these opinions of me are because I know I know what I'm doing and what, you know, my, you know, what my co director, co founder Lizzie is doing, and I know what our team is doing, and I know that the people that I've worked with over the years who, you know, who have with alongside me, I, you know, been allies as well as members of the community. I know what we're doing is the right thing. And those negative, conversations, they don't they don't touch me. The things that they say about me, they don't bother me because they're not true. And, actually, I say, quite comical, some of them. I I love I love every now and again, something will come out. I think after after exited Mermaids, there was a lot of jubilation about, oh my goodness.

Susie Green

We've managed to get her. She's gone. And then when Anne Health launched, the reaction was was hysterical. And it was like, oh my god. Susie Green. I think one of the ones that, I screenshot and put sort of, like, on my screen, I wish she'd just shut up. But, yeah, it's yeah.

Joanne Lockwood

Yeah. I

Susie Green

don't really care what they say, but I know for other people, you know, it it really hurts.

Joanne Lockwood

Yeah. I I look at my web stats on a daily basis, and all of a sudden, they'll they'll jump through the roof, and it's all on my bio page or the home page or something. And I go, okay. So I look at the sources, and that would be x.com or twitter.com. It will be Mumsnet. It'll be some other site. Okay. Okay.

Joanne Lockwood

So I I hunt down the article to see what they're saying. And it's like, oh, yeah. Here we go. It's almost like playing hate bingo. Oh, yeah. You said that. You said that. Dodgy wig, evil smile, staring eyes.

Joanne Lockwood

We've got all yeah. We tick tick. Yeah. Yeah. You've shit all the Facebook groups on that one. Thank you.

Susie Green

Yeah. We call them, MUNSNET is, Prosecco Stormfront. It's, like, just this quagmire of, entitled, women discussing things and and professing outrage, but, you know, not one of them is actually dealing or supporting a trans person in their lives at all. So they're just poking their nose into stuff that is none of their business.

Joanne Lockwood

Well, it'll start off with AIBU. Am I being unreasonable? Yeah. Actually, you probably are, if you don't mind. That's actually

Susie Green

Yeah. Every now and again, if I want a bit of a giggle, I'll have a I'll I'll go put my name into mom's net and have a look at what the what the most recent stuff is. But, hang on.

Joanne Lockwood

I do it for a laugh sometimes and sometimes screenshot it. I when I'm doing keynotes and talks, all I sometimes do is is is post some of the latest. You know, most people put testimonials on there, so I I just do negative testimonials. Shelley, this is what people think of me. I think I was acquitted to Joseph Mengele at one point trying to destroy children. It's like right?

Susie Green

Well, yeah. I mean, I there's there's there's actually some somebody did a mock up of the, child catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and put my face on it. That was funny. That was funny. I mean, the best one the the one that, like, I'm I hold most dear was when after Caroline Farrow and Posey Parker went after me, and I spoke the police potentially about a harassment case, which I then dropped because I was thought I'm giving I'm giving them, like, a platform with this. But, somebody from America posted a picture of Ursula, from The Little Mermaid up and said this is Susie Green's TrueForm. And I was doing the mermaid's, social media at the time, and I just replied and said, but and they said, she can't sue me because I'm in America. And I just went back with this picture, and I just replied and said, but seriously, does my bum look big in this? And then I screenshotted it and had it as my profile picture for years.

Susie Green

I loved it so much. And, you know, people, friends, family, etcetera, still buy me Ursula products just because they think it's fun. So but then, you know, she's she's the perfect baddie, isn't she? So

Joanne Lockwood

Well, she said she's got a bit of a cuteness about her as well. She's not completely evil, is she?

Susie Green

She's she's cool. She's cool.

Joanne Lockwood

Yeah. I think she's cool as well. I think, yeah, we'll she's probably a a fierce torture of of defense for us, for Ariel and things like that. I think she's she's there really. She's looking after everybody. Sorry. Yeah. We need we need really strong matriarchal characters in our in our pond, don't we, sometimes?

Susie Green

Yeah. Why not? As I say, she was she was my profile picture for a lot of years.

Joanne Lockwood

Yeah. So glad you owned it. Yeah. It's well, it it is. I think we've we've anybody who's in the public eye and wherever it in in wherever micro or macro way, you've you've just gotta be used to people having an opinion on you. I remember Brene Brown knew she'd made an impact when she got more as much hate as she got likes on her YouTube. So, see, and that's Brene Brown. So, you you know, it's it's it's everybody gets hate.

Joanne Lockwood

Marmite, isn't it? You love me or hate me. That's fine. I'm cool with it.

Susie Green

Yeah. Definitely.

Joanne Lockwood

But it it's yeah. Where are we now? We're we're last couple of days of January 2025, and we're a few weeks on from events in the US where we're seeing a lot of, EOs, executive orders coming out around transferring the military, defunding, you know, rejecting transferring society, canceling driving licenses. So it's real it's a real state in the states. And that info that travels across across the Atlantic as well to us. We we can't be immune to what's going on over there, can we?

Susie Green

No. And it's it's really disturbing to see what's going on. I think yesterday, I spent in, like, a fog of disbelief about how bad it it's got. Though, to be honest, kind of expected this to happen when, obviously, Trump, got back in as president. You know, he started a lot of this when he in his previous term and tried to to move things in that direction. So these executive orders, although they're horrific, are not a massive surprise. And, obviously, there's work being done in the states to to push back against them. But trans health care for trans youth particularly, obviously, is being affected by the executive order that came out, you know, just over a day ago.

Susie Green

And we're seeing within our organization, we're seeing, families with trans kids in America reaching out and saying, can you help us? Because access to their health care for their kids looks like it's gonna be shut down. And clinics are acting in advance of the order actually coming into law as well and turning peep you know, turning young people away from clinic appointments for blockers and stuff. So this is like I can't imagine what it must feel like to be a family with a trans kid in America right now. I really can't. I just it just I don't wanna think about it too much because it makes me feel so sad and really angry on their behalf about what they're they're being put through right now. It's, yeah, it's awful. And, obviously, we've got our own issues here with Westreting putting in the permanent ban against, puberty blockers for young people on the flimsiest of premises. And he spoke to a room, West Street Inc, spoke to a room full of of trans kids and their parents.

Susie Green

And I've spoken to a parent who was in that space, and she said those 90 minutes were probably the most traumatic of her life because those kids shared what the blocker ban meant to them. And he said he heard them, and he looked them in the face. He looked them in the eyes and said he heard them, and then he went ahead and did it anyway. It's it's devastating. Politics has no place in health care. No place in health care. And this is going to at some point, this is all gonna be reversed. And this will be looked back as a particularly bleak and black stage of history for for trans youth and trans people in general.

Joanne Lockwood

In the same way, we looked at what went on with AIDS, what we looked on with section 28, what we looked on with racial discrimination, gender all the things we've we've looked back in our history and go, that's not a proud moment in time. And I I agree, and it's with West responding really, I don't wanna make excuses for him or anybody, from the cash report. You know, the cash report came out, in the last dying embers of the Tory government. Put it across the line. And on balance, it says some good things. There's some good things in the cash report. One is that we need better support for young trans people. We need to understand it better.

Joanne Lockwood

So if you look at some of the positives, there's a lot of positives. Not one place in the cash report actually say, puberty blockers were banned. Because if they did, what would happen was that these these trials they're proposing or or embarking on, how how can you embark on a trial for something you've you've declared as being a bad thing? So I'm hoping the government do the trials. They they take the heat out of this negative rhetoric and go, actually, here's logical clinical evidence now, which we never had. So as I said, at the end, don't justify the means at all. I'm hoping that we come out with something really credible at the end of this.

Susie Green

The only problem is the trial itself is completely unethical to give an you know, this is this was presented at the women's select committee. Simona Giordano, who's a bioethicist, you know, hit the nail on the head. It's completely unethical to force people into a clinical trial by withholding access to treatment by any other means. It is unethical and it breaches people's human rights. And actually, lots of principles in terms of human rights are being are being trampled on by, you know, this process. And what about the control group that they're saying needs

Joanne Lockwood

to be done? Yeah. The double blind. Yeah. The double blinds.

Susie Green

So That's not gonna work. They're just those kids are just gonna their their puberty is gonna continue on, and they're just gonna drop out of the studies. And the emotional impact on those young people thinking that they've gone through all of this process, jumped through all of these hoops, then being accepted, and then their puberty progresses regardless. That emotional impact is gonna have that. That's a huge safeguarding risk. It's completely unethical. And it just it just highlights the fact that actually this medication can't be that bad if they're gonna do a clinical trial on it. If it was as dangerous as they say it is, then they couldn't they couldn't feasibly suggest that that a clinical trial is a is a good idea.

Susie Green

And the fact is is that there's lots and lots and lots of evidence on, how puberty blockers assist in gender affirming healthcare. They just chose in the CAS report to disqualify all of those studies because it didn't fit their narrative. And we know that the CAS report is a political document because Cammiebad not stated as such that it was done deliberately, and trans people were not part of any, of the, team. So and their their re reason for doing that, that, the reason that they said that they didn't have trans people is because they didn't want, you know, it to be influenced. Now if you did a if you did a trial on if you did a a review on diabetes care, would having somebody with diabetes mean that that was that was, you know, biased. If you did a trial on autism, having members of, you know, of the group that were doing that review, you know, would having somebody who who actually was autistic on that, would that be biased? No, it wouldn't. It's only trans people. And it's only trans kids and trans women who have been subjected to this sort of narrative.

Susie Green

And, you know, it's being debunked. The cast review is being debunked internationally, locally. There's so much evidence every day, more comes to light in terms of looking at the method the methodology, the the conclusions that they've reached, the the stuff that was said in there that has absolutely no basis in science or any research to back it up, that's just been popped in there as an opinion and has been taken as this holy grail of what of what trans health care for trans youth should be like. And it's a biased political document with an end game in sight, which which has come to pass. And I was really hoping that labor would would have, you know, the, you know, the foresight to look at this and go, this smells a little bit odd. You know? This isn't quite right. This doesn't seem to be, you know, led by the community. Nobody from the community was a part of this.

Susie Green

Perhaps we should take this with a pinch of salt. And the fact that they're pushing the same narrative despite everything that's been said about it is a real concern. Real concern.

Joanne Lockwood

Trans youth, though, is it? I mean, we look at adult trans support, their gender identity clinics. The the waiting list, they're now seeing people who are referred in 2018, 2019. If you join the waiting list now, you're looking at 6 plus years, maybe even longer for first appointment.

Susie Green

Think it I don't even think it's 6 plus years. I think it was extrapolated in, that if you join the waiting list now, you'll be seen in 20 years because the numbers that have been seen off the waiting list that are coming off the with waiting list and the people that are being added, You're looking at 20 years. How how how

Joanne Lockwood

You stand no chance at

Susie Green

No. No chance. No.

Joanne Lockwood

You gotta go private. You gotta you gotta that it means you have to have privilege. You have to have the the means and the wherewithal. Even private appointments aren't quick because the limited availability of specialists in that in that area as well. Yeah. It it is it is horrendous. And, I I know many adults who are holding their heads in their hands, going, what am I gonna do? How am I gonna handle this? There there are very few places in the with the UK perspectives that you can go for support these days for for free. GPs don't wanna touch you now.

Joanne Lockwood

I've got lots of friends who have been, deprescribed, if that's a word, from their GP, because it's like, oh, it's a bit risky. I'm not sure what I should do. Everybody needs to have a license. Okay. All trans. This is this is a risky area. I'm I've got justification now to be out of this and say, I I'm not I'm not comfortable. And that's the impact of these studies and the the rhetoric, isn't it?

Susie Green

Yeah. And I think the thing is that GPs routinely prescribe stuff that is, like, a 1000 times more toxic than HRT routinely to cisgender people day in, day out. Yet they're, you know, they go, oh, this is a specialist area. It's not. It's really not. It's not. But All

Joanne Lockwood

the women I spoke to about menopause support, it it's clear that GPs are just not comfortable talking about estrogen, progesterone, prolactin, doing blood tests, finding out about people, let alone testosterone. So that there's not a lot of yeah. They always wanna palm it off onto an endocrinologist or they want someone to come and tell them that it's okay. Yeah. People pass talk about these hormones as if they are powerful drugs. It's it's a it's a part of the natural body. Okay. They've been synthesized from cow urine or pig urine or bioidentical, whatever we're talking about.

Joanne Lockwood

But they're not drugs as such. They're not they're not chemicals we're putting in our body. They're natural occurring hormones.

Susie Green

Yep. And using them to make people feel comfortable in in their own bodies. Why why is that such a big deal? I heard the stories, obviously, not stories. I heard the reports of the GP surgeries who just took all of their trans patients off their books and went, we're not we're not supporting you anymore. Blatant discrimination as as as evidenced by the fact that it said it said, just to complete, we are not dealing with trans people anymore. I hear it all the time, people telling us about their care being refused, that they've been on HRT for years, and the GP has always been, like, really supportive and not had an issue, and then suddenly an addict comes down from the practice, you know, manager or whatever, and and they're changing the rules and suddenly their access to to hormones is removed. 1,000 are being forced into self medication. And for for young people who don't have the means to access private care and for adults who don't have to means to access private care, it means that they're starting using dangerous, access means to be able to get what they need.

Susie Green

It's it it doesn't stop people being trans, and it doesn't stop people seeking, to be able to feel more comfortable with the use of, you know, HRT hormones, etcetera. What it does is it forces people down roots that actually will will harm them. And that's despicable.

Joanne Lockwood

There's a a scene in, a hit Netflix, drama, Orange the New Black, where Laverne Cox, trans character I can't remember her character in the in the show, but Laverne Cox is suddenly denied, HRT medication, which she goes up to the counter, and they said, no. You can't have that anymore. And the panic set in in, I'm gonna grow hair. I'm gonna this and no. It's just gonna happen. It's like and that was in a prison scenario where you got no agency at all. So imagine how it is like if you're in America, the judicial system, or even the military, or in this country lacking privilege. That moment, you'll think, hang on a minute.

Joanne Lockwood

My my life has been okay. It's been normal. It's I'm getting all the things. Suddenly, it's gone. Yeah. I mean, it's no different to women finding that there's no more estrogen gel or patches on the market. And something their their their menopause symptoms are gonna come back with a vengeance. And it was there then.

Joanne Lockwood

It's exactly the same.

Susie Green

Yep. And we speak to people every day, every day who who are in that position, who are suddenly finding themselves with with this I don't I don't I I just I I sympathize and empathize with them so much because how how must it feel to suddenly have something that made you feel yourself, made you feel comfortable with yourself and enabled you to just get on with life and be suddenly taken away. And and then as you say, that panic that panic, that feeling of, well, what am I gonna do now? And that feeling that that your body is gonna betray you. Like, as you say, like, menopausal treatment and care. It's to remove that like it is is is so irresponsible and dangerous. And the impact on people's lives is, oh, it's heartbreaking. Heartbreaking conversations that I have every day are heartbreaking.

Joanne Lockwood

So this this is where your your vision and health came from, isn't it? Where the to create an organization that can enable people to safely access the support they need. Not just not just medication, but but support as well. It's not it's not just handing out things. It's about talking to people and listening to people. So do you want to tell us a bit more about what where the idea come from in your own words and and the problem it's solving and and how maybe some of the challenges you're having getting it going as well?

Susie Green

Yeah. I Anne Anne Health sort of in terms of the idea. Being part of Mermaids, being CEO of Mermaids, talking to families, young people, seeing what was happening in the UK with regards to access to health care for young people. I've seen thousands of of families struggle, with the NHS provision, but also access to private healthcare because the only other provider is is gender GP. So when I left Mermaiz at the end of November 2022, I went to work for gender GP. I knew Helen Webberly previously, when she started providing health care for trans people and then started to extend that to young people. And I really respected who she was and what she did, and the amount of attacks, and obviously the challenges that she faced and her husband faced because of that. So I went to work for Gender GP and sort of quickly realized that it it wasn't for me because what I saw, what I thought was was within Gender GP didn't come to pass, and it was clear that they weren't providing personalized, appropriately, medically overseen care.

Susie Green

So whilst I was in there, Lizzie, my cofounder, co director, and I have known each other for years. And we started talking about there's got to be something better than this. There's got to be something that is actually as affordable as we can make it whilst also ensuring that there is, like, the quality of care with the proper medical oversight. And we wanted to get it going. And we we tried for from, like, the middle of of 2023, really up until the beginning of 2024. And and we've kinda given up about getting getting it started because we needed seed money to get going. And we were so frustrated because we could see how much the community desperately needed an alternative, especially for trans youth who were only had, as I say, the NHS, which is broken, and even more so now. And, obviously, gender GP, and we we knew there needed to be an alternative, but we just didn't have didn't have the means to get it going.

Susie Green

And then we had a an amazing gift from a benefactor who said that they believed in what we were doing and that they wanted to help us. So they gave us, like, a chunk of cash to get going. So that's really how that started. So that was that was back in sort of March, April of last year. So we we did a lot of stuff behind the scenes. We worked with some trial patients to make sure that our process was was robust. We tried to get GMC doctors involved, and and we had a a couple of GMC registered doctors who were really, really keen, who really were supportive of the trans community, but they got warned off from working with a private health care company, particularly working with with trans young people. So in the end, we replicated to a degree the model that gender GP uses in terms of EU prescribers.

Susie Green

But unlike gender GP, everybody sees their doctor. So literally part of the process is that you see your doctor and you see them regularly, and they, and they will talk you through your care and any questions, etcetera. So, yeah, we got started at the beginning of of 2024 with that amazing gift. Since then, it's gone from strength to strength. We came out as being, you know, to the public in July just as a as obviously, just after the puberty blocker ban had had been put into place. So we came out because we wanted people to know that there was an alternative and that, actually, we we were working towards providing a safe and legal route for people to be able to access puberty blockers so that the criminalizing of of parents, who just wanna help their kids would would, that we would find a way to to help them to do that legally. And, yeah, it's interesting. I think it's probably the best word.

Susie Green

It's interesting how much, how much abuse, is aimed at us. But, again, like I said about me in general and and Lizzie's very robust, we we don't care. We we see we see the difference our services are making to trans people of all ages who need us, and we're gonna you know, we're here for the duration. We believe in what we're doing. We also are a registered, nonprofit as well. So we do also provide some subsidized care and are looking to expand on that. And as we as an organization continue to grow and as we have more, surpluses and not for profit, that will go to subsidize people's care who can't afford it. So we wish we could provide free free of care free of charge care for everybody.

Susie Green

It's not possible. It's you know, we just can't. But we will try and help people as much as we can.

Joanne Lockwood

That one, to simplify touching wood, you haven't had anyone challenging you legally yet, have you?

Susie Green

No. But that's we got some very, very, very good legal advice at the very beginning. So we worked with David Locke, who is in terms of health care legislation legally. He's, he's sort of top of the trade. So we commissioned him and his team to look at what we were doing, the model that we were we were doing, and and to give us, like, their legal oversight into the best ways to ensure that we were as robust as possible. And I think that advice as as, you know, been very timely, bearing in mind the blocker ban, etcetera, and also is a protective factor because we know what we need to do to ensure that we're falling within the letter of the law, that we're not encouraging people to to do, you know, to to do criminal activities. We are literally talking to people about the way that they can get the support that they need, and we're doing it in a way that is perfectly, legitimately within within the scope of as a law. Yeah.

Joanne Lockwood

Sometimes when I'm listening to people like West Street and other people talking about puberty blocker ban, I often wonder if they're they're aiming at at gender GP primarily. It it sounds like that when they're they're not saying it explicitly, but they're kind of saying, well, these offshore doctors based on the other side of the world, we wanna stop them doing this, this, and this. And it's over that sounds like sounds like gender GP rhetoric. And

Susie Green

It's it's so is. It's so is. And, unfortunately, the the the the reports coming out of gender GP means that some of that concern is actually legitimate, in terms of, you know, Helen Webberly has stated clearly for the record and has done a Times interview where she talks openly about the fact that gender GPs run entirely on AI systems. So health care recommendations, except that it's all based on AI bots and an algorithm that she's put in for people. You know? So it's your health care is not overseen by a real person.

Joanne Lockwood

It's a shame because our GeneralGP helped me out 2014, 2015 in the early days when you when you were probably dealing with Helen yourself on these things. Yeah.

Susie Green

Yep.

Joanne Lockwood

So the yeah. They they certainly helped me self well, they took me off of real self med, which was, you know, Internet drugs and all those sort of things. It's all about and then at least got me into something that was a known source, from a UK online pharmacy. And then the GIC took over with a shared care agreement with GP. I was quite fortunate that I was probably before the problem just started developing.

Susie Green

So yeah. And I and I think I think AI bots don't have I mean, they have their place in medicine for, you know, sort of like automating systems, etcetera. But for health care, for recommending health care, overseeing blood tests, etcetera, that's that's not their place. You know? We need real life people. And we we run a helpline, so 9 to 5, Monday to Friday, and a web chat option so people can get in touch with us. And the actual relief that people feel when they speak to a real life person is immense. And we we get it all the time. We have people calling up and going, oh my goodness.

Susie Green

I didn't actually believe that I'd be able to get through to a real life person, that I'd be able to actually talk to somebody. And, you know, we offer that that support from a helpline basis in terms of, like, general support as well as obviously support in terms of the medical process inside of it. Now one of the things that I experienced as a parent when I had to go through unconventional means to get my daughter medication, I had to take her, which is, like, ironic now, really. I had to take her to Boston in America to be seen by doctor Norman Spack at the Boston Children's Hospital. And that feeling of of being alone and and being isolated and doing something that's going against what the NHS was telling me because I was told that she had to go through a full now puberty to be sure that that's not what she wanted. And I was like, that's that's insane. That's insane. What you so you're saying that she has to go through all of this in terms of that emotional turmoil, torture, frankly, for her.

Susie Green

And you're saying that she has to do that so that so that you can actually then acknowledge the fact that that wasn't the best thing for her. Madness. So, yeah, so we had to follow that route. But the one thing that I had with the Boston Children's Hospital, etcetera, was I had somebody to talk to. I had a really responsive doctor. Norman was amazing. And to be able to talk to somebody, to be able to get that reassurance, to be able to have those questions that come up answered was invaluable, which is why we are really clear that what we do at ANA is we're here for you. And we won't charge you just to talk to a real life person.

Susie Green

That's just part of the care that you get, and we want you to feel comfortable, and we want you to feel safe.

Joanne Lockwood

That's what you're saying there is, like, we want your child, Jackie, to go through male puberty to prove that it's the right decision for her. I'm just thinking as you're saying now, I was thinking, look at all the rhetoric around trans people, I. E. Trans women. It's it's not being around a bush here, trans women in sport. The the current IOC and other regulations, plastics, you name it, all the rugby, everyone's come out with a rule. Basically, they're saying, if you've been through male puberty or then you're ineligible. So what we're saying is, what we need to do is go through your puberty as normal, work out when you get to the age of 15 that it wasn't right, and preclude yourself from ever being a professional sports person in any field, just in case you may be wrong.

Joanne Lockwood

Whereas puberty blockers could have just given you that little bit of breathing time, let your brain mature a bit. You could take over a test drive, make sure you're comfortable with it. And then you you haven't precluded your the rest of your life from that decision because not doing something isn't a zero sum game either. So it it's it's it's it's

Susie Green

It's not a neutral act. To deny access to medication, to deny access to care is not a neutral act. And in fact, for trans young people, as we know from the reaction of families to to the blocker ban, is actually disastrous. And there's there's blood on West Street's hands already. There are young people who are not with us anymore because of what is happening with access to care through n a through the NHS. And it's incredibly sad. Incredibly sad.

Joanne Lockwood

And coupled with that, the empowering the anti trans rhetoric through this as well. So it's not it's not just the action of blocking. It's also the enabling of the rhetoric and green lighting it in the mainstream media, in GPs, in teachers, in people in authority. It's the whole of society is now being green lighted that the trans people are bad. Being trans is bad.

Susie Green

Yeah. Being trans is bad. A cisgender outcome is a preferred outcome. And that's what comes through so plainly from within that, you know, the CAS review and the other rhetoric that's out there is, you know, let let's try push for a cisgender outcome. Let's try and push you in a direction that means that you're not trans. And that's conversion therapy. That's conversion practices. It's and that's what the these new centers are doing as well.

Susie Green

And we've heard reports from families about the kind of discussions that their kids are being subjected to, which shows that what's being practiced on them is is conversion practices. They're trying they're basically trying to persuade, people that they should be comfortable with their with their sex assigned at birth and that, you know, to be trans is a poor outcome. And and it's and it's just, honest I it just makes me I am I feel like I'm in a constant state of rage at the moment. And I have to give my head a shake every now and again and sit back and go, right. Okay. You're doing everything that you can. You're working alongside people who really believe in this. You know? You're doing what you can, when you can, and you're not giving up.

Susie Green

So that's all I can do.

Joanne Lockwood

Yeah. Yeah. It is. It it it is. And I get frustrated that people want everyone to be normal. And whether that's anti people, gay people, bi people, or anyone who doesn't fit this kind of biblical version of of of who you should be. Even even the bible allegedly is 2000 years old, way before today's society was ever even conceived. So how we can reference things back to this these traditional values that were never really in existence anyway.

Joanne Lockwood

They're just people with power and privilege trying to control the masses through, through rules.

Susie Green

Yep. Yep. And and again, it it's about, you know, look over there. Don't look at what I'm doing. Look over there. I blame that person over there. Don't blame me with my stack of cash who's basically pushing society in a in a direction that's really harmful for the majority of its citizens. Look over there and and pick on that that person there rather than actually paying attention to what I'm doing.

Joanne Lockwood

I've got a a fair few friends around the world, and, I haven't managed to confer any of them to being trans.

Susie Green

You're obviously not working hard enough. Yeah. I mean, I've I've been told that, you know, I trans ed my daughter because I didn't want a gay son. And, my gay son finds that a little bit odd, but, you know.

Joanne Lockwood

I'm a huge fan of a of a protest singer called Grace Petrie. I was at one of her, I think it was a comedy show, and she stood up in the beginning and said, she's really, really frustrated. Why hasn't the trans for grade come and come for her? Because she's a butch lesbian. She's out and proud butch lesbian. She she's got, I'm an ideal candidate to being converted to be trans. So why isn't anyone trying? Why isn't everyone trying to convert to be trans?

Susie Green

Where are you? I love her stuff. I love her stuff. She's amazing. And, yeah, again, you know, yeah, I'm I'm I've trans my kid. We're transing kids. We're you know, I mean, what? You know, I couldn't I couldn't make my kid eat a piece, never mind make her be trans. I mean, and my and my gay son is like, well, you clearly didn't try hard enough with me, mom. So, you know, you you know, didn't do the job right with me.

Susie Green

If if I did, then I'd have 2 trans kids, not just 1. Bizarre.

Joanne Lockwood

I think that's

Susie Green

bizarre. Yeah.

Joanne Lockwood

The other thing that frustrates me is that, if I came out as neurodiverse, on the spectrum, ASD, whatever it may be, it'd be, oh, you're neurodiverse. It's fine. But I I do I kind of self declare myself as as having a neurodiversity, which is my gender. It's just my brain thinks differently. But it's the wrong type of neurodiversity. It's not not not trendy enough for for for the for the, for society. But, yeah, it it's people are making judgments based on lack of knowledge Yep. Manipulation

Susie Green

And it's not and it's not involved in their lives, so I don't know whether or not it's a distraction from their day to day that they can pick on, you know, somebody else. Or it's I mean, somebody said to me that it's not. It's just some people find trans people icky, so they don't like it. So therefore, their reaction to it, because they don't understand it and it doesn't affect anybody that they love, their response to it is is to to push in the opposite direction.

Joanne Lockwood

And that's a really good way of describing it icky. And unfortunately or fortunately, that's kind of the definition of transphobia, isn't it? It's a fear or this ickiness, a dislike, a distaste for based on a bias. And that's that's exactly what it is. And yeah. And I've I've I've I've got people in my life that maybe not use the word icky. They've just described me as as as not having enough feminine energy for them. And, yeah, that's fine. Yeah.

Joanne Lockwood

Whatever.

Susie Green

I mean Whatever that is. I mean, oh, wait. What what is that? What is that? I mean, they could say the same about, you know, a large percentage of the cisgender woman population. They might look at me and go, you're not feminine. You haven't got the feminine traits. Blah blah. What a load of absolute bullshit. It's

Joanne Lockwood

bullshit. Bollocks. Yeah. We can use those words. Don't worry.

Susie Green

Oh, that's okay then. I'm very sweary normally. I've been really polite.

Joanne Lockwood

That's okay. Someone normally gets the f word in early, but, yeah, we we've done alright today. I think that but it's not it's not a problem sometimes is if you look at the media representation, when you're trying to talk about trans people having an opinion, it's become activists, lobby groups, testers, and all the imagery is around young trans people with banners, flags, t shirts, burning effigies, all this kind of stuff. You talk to people who have a a less than trans positive view. View. They're in suits, ties called professor or doctor or something. So we're trying to paint trans people as anarchists and the people who want to put reason back in society as being the logical, thoughtful, professional side. And that doesn't help.

Joanne Lockwood

You know, the the mainstream media are pumping this asymmetry at us all the time as well.

Susie Green

All the time. I mean, the number of anti trans articles, bearing in mind the size of the public there's more articles that are painting trans people as, you know, we we've talked about this already a little bit, as as dangerous, as predatory, as a as liars, essentially. That there's more of them than there are actually trans people in society. Over the last few years, there are more individual articles that have been published throughout the mainstream media than there are actual trans people, which is unbelievable. It's crazy,

Joanne Lockwood

isn't it?

Susie Green

It's crazy. It's absolutely crazy.

Joanne Lockwood

2 each. 2 articles each. It is.

Susie Green

And I don't know how many have been written about me. I'd but yeah. I think, yeah, there's, and, obviously, you've been in a similar position with with being somebody who's openly out as a trans person. It just me as a very visible ally and transadjacent is how I con myself. Yeah. It's it's yeah. It's insane the amount of attention we get literally just wanting to to support people and to be able to get on and live their lives.

Joanne Lockwood

That's all we wanna do is get on with our lives. Thank you, Susie.

Susie Green

That's it.

Joanne Lockwood

Absolutely. Fantastic. How could people get hold of you? Tell us a bit more about, the website. Anything else? Details?

Susie Green

Yeah. So all of, I mean, it's really simple. It's like just www.ann.health. And if you go onto our website, it's got the number for the helpline, and it's got the web chat link so you can click on that and you can, you know, you can make contact with a real live person, 9 to 5, Monday to Friday. You can email at hello at https://anne.health. And we've got, you know, a team of amazing people who are either all trans or transadjacent, on the team who really care about the lives of the people that we're supporting. So if you wanna get in touch with us, please do, and you will be contacted back by a human being.

Joanne Lockwood

So if you're listening to this, it's https://anne.health. Yes. It's not that dot health is one of these newfangled domain names. It's not dotco dot health dotco.uk. It's just ann

Susie Green

No. anne dot health. Health. That's it.

Joanne Lockwood

Enter. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Excellent. Susie, it's been an absolute pleasure, and thank you for your time. I appreciate it.

Susie Green

It's been lovely to speak to you. And at the same time as, like, vaguely depressing talking about all this stuff is also nice to know that there's like minded people out there who are fighting for the right things.

Joanne Lockwood

Yes. We are. Well, lots of transadjacent, lots of trans allies, lots of people out there with lots of love, lots of support in their art. And as I keep saying to people, we just gotta hold the rope. Hold the rope. Don't need to pull anybody over. Don't need to win. Just hold the rope, and the world will keep turning, and things will get better.

Susie Green

Yeah. Yep. I agree. And just need to need to keep hoping and supporting each other. And if you see somebody, you know, who's struggling, please reach out.

Joanne Lockwood

And sorry. It's Susie from Anne. Thank you.

Susie Green

Thank you.

Joanne Lockwood

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  1. Empowering Trans Youth: A Heartfelt Approach to Inclusive Healthcare

  2. Healthcare with Compassion: Supporting Trans Kids and Families

  3. Breaking Barriers in Trans Health: A Journey of Care and Resilience

  4. A Conversation on Trans Healthcare and Inclusive Practices

  5. From Ignorance to Advocacy: Journey of Understanding Trans Healthcare

  6. Creating Safe Spaces: Heartfelt Healthcare for Trans Individuals

  7. Compassionate Healthcare for Trans Youth: Insights and Experiences

  8. Trans Healthcare Challenges: A Discussion with Susie Green

  9. Transforming Lives: Ensuring Inclusive Healthcare for All Ages

  10. Insights into Compassionate Healthcare for Trans People with Susie Green

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Susie Green explores the compassionate realm of trans healthcare, reflecting on her journey and the pressing need for inclusive, medically overseen support systems that champion resilience, authenticity, and societal acceptance.

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Episode Summary with Intro, Key Points and a Takeaway

In this episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast, Joanne Lockwood engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Susie Green about the challenges and triumphs in providing compassionate healthcare for trans individuals. Susie shares her insights on the evolving landscape of trans healthcare, the societal impacts of current anti-trans rhetoric, and the pivotal role that support systems play in the lives of trans youth. Joanne and Susie also examine the damaging effects of misinformation and discrimination on trans individuals and their families, shedding light on the pressing need for informed, empathetic care.

Susie Green is co-founder and co-director of Anne Health, an organisation dedicated to offering accessible and compassionate healthcare for trans people of all ages. Her journey into this crucial work began when her daughter, at the age of four, expressed her true gender identity. Susie’s firsthand experiences as a mother of a trans child fuelled her passion for advocacy and inclusive healthcare. Known for her resilience and dedication, Susie has been a prominent figure in the trans community for over two decades, previously serving as CEO of Mermaids, a charity that supports transgender youth and their families. Her expertise and personal experiences make her an invaluable advocate for trans rights and healthcare.

Joanne and Susie delve into the stark realities trans individuals face, from the lack of informed healthcare professionals to the toxic narratives perpetuated by mainstream media. They discuss the critical importance of puberty blockers as a means to provide trans youth with space to explore their identities safely, countering the harmful misconceptions that often surround this treatment. Susie emphasises that denying access to such care is not a neutral act—it has severe and sometimes fatal consequences for trans youth.

The episode concludes with Susie sharing the mission of Anne Health and its commitment to offering safe, personalised care for trans individuals. Despite the hate and legal challenges faced, Susie remains steadfast in her commitment to support and uplift the trans community. Joanne and Susie urge listeners to foster understanding, hold space for those struggling, and continue advocating for inclusive healthcare practices.

A key takeaway from this episode is the urgent need for empathy and informed care in supporting trans individuals. Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of the systemic challenges faced by the trans community and the importance of access to safe, affirming healthcare. This episode serves as a powerful call to action to challenge the status quo and advocate for a more inclusive and compassionate society.

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00:00 Parent realised child was transgender, sought support from GP and Mermaids after initial doubts.

06:18 A relieved parent found support and guidance from another parent of a trans child, joined an online group, and connected with similar families.

11:06 The text criticises the focus on harmful narratives against trans people instead of addressing real injustices.

19:23 The negative opinions and false accusations don't bother me because I know the truth about my and my team's positive work.

22:33 Someone replaced the Child Catcher's face with mine, which was humorous. After a conflict with Caroline Farrow and Posey Parker, a joke comparing me to Ursula from The Little Mermaid circulated online. I replied humorously and used the image as my profile picture for years.

30:43 The CAS report dismissed evidence supporting puberty blockers for gender-affirming care due to a biased, non-inclusive process excluding trans individuals.

35:39 Many trans patients face discrimination and sudden withdrawal of medical support, forcing some into unsafe self-medication.

39:50 Anne, former CEO of Mermaids, joined Gender GP after observing NHS and private healthcare challenges for trans youth. She left Gender GP due to concerns over their care quality.

45:17 We received excellent legal advice from David Locke on health care legislation to ensure our model complies with the law and offers legitimate support.

48:47 A parent recounts the challenge of bypassing NHS guidelines to seek medical support for their daughter in the US, highlighting feelings of isolation and the importance of helpline support.

53:13 Families report conversion practices aimed at discouraging transgender identities, causing anger and frustration.

58:32 Media often portrays trans activists as anarchists while depicting their critics as logical and professional, which isn't helpful.

📚 Timestamped overview

00:00 Understanding and Supporting a Trans Child

06:18 Finding Support in Community

11:06 Support for Vulnerable Minorities

19:23 Unfazed by False Criticism

22:33 "Online Criticism Turned Humour"

30:43 CAS Report's Bias on Puberty Blockers

35:39 Trans Healthcare Discrimination Issues

39:50 Challenges in Trans Youth Healthcare

45:17 Timely Legal Advice Ensured Compliance

48:47 Helpline Support and Medical Advocacy

53:13 Opposition to Conversion Practices

58:32 Media Bias in Trans Representations

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🎙️ This Week on Inclusion Bites: Healthcare with a Heart 🎙️

💬 Ever wondered what it truly takes to revolutionise healthcare for trans people of all ages? 💬

This week, I’m honoured to welcome Susie Green, cofounder and co-director of Anne Health, to discuss the critical issue of compassionate, accessible healthcare for trans individuals. Susie's perspective is both deeply personal and professionally insightful, making this episode a compelling listen!

𝗧𝗼𝗴𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿, 𝘄𝗲 𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗹𝗼𝗿𝗲:

  • 🔑 The inspirational journey of empowering trans kids and their families through resilience and love.

  • 🔑 Tackling the unsettling rhetoric and misinformation surrounding trans healthcare.

  • 🔑 The pressing need for better support systems and the vital work done by Anne Health.

Why Listen?
"Inclusion is about understanding, and this episode is packed with insights to help you create more #PositivePeopleExperiences."

About the Podcast
As the host of Inclusion Bites, I release episodes every week to inspire, educate, and challenge perspectives on inclusion and belonging. This short clip is just a taste of what’s to come.

Engagement Call to Action
What’s your take? 💭 Share your thoughts below 👇 or tell us about your experience with inclusive healthcare.

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Summary Description:
In this powerful episode of the Inclusion Bites Podcast, Susie Green joins me, Joanne Lockwood, to delve into the critical topic of trans healthcare and driving culture change. Susie, co-founder of Anne Health, shares her journey of creating Positive People Experiences in healthcare and her unwavering commitment to inclusivity. Tune in to understand why politics has no place in healthcare and how we can foster an inclusive society. Don't miss out on this inspiring conversation that not only raises awareness but also calls for action. Subscribe now for more transformative dialogues!


Outro:
Thank you, the listener, for tuning in! If you enjoyed this conversation, please like and subscribe to our channel. For more information, visit SEE Change Happen website: https://seechangehappen.co.uk

Listen to the full episode here: The Inclusion Bites Podcast https://seechangehappen.co.uk/inclusion-bites-listen

Stay curious, stay kind, and stay inclusive - Joanne Lockwood

ℹ️ Introduction

Welcome back to another episode of Inclusion Bites, the podcast that sparks bold conversations on inclusion, belonging, and societal transformation. I'm Joanne Lockwood, and today marks episode 155 titled "Healthcare with a Heart." This episode features an inspiring dialogue with Susie Green, co-founder and co-director of Anne Health, an organisation dedicated to providing compassionate and accessible healthcare for trans individuals of all ages.

Susie's remarkable journey began with her own experience raising a trans child, which propelled her into the world of trans advocacy and healthcare. She shares her personal story, the challenges she faced, and the invaluable support that shaped her mission. We delve into the critical importance of inclusive healthcare and the stark realities faced by trans individuals today.

From the backdrop of a restrictive political climate to the misinformation in mainstream media, Susie and I unearth the myriad obstacles posed before trans people. We also highlight Anne Health’s groundbreaking efforts to offer empathetic and medically overseen care, ensuring that trans individuals receive the support they deserve.

Prepare to be moved as we explore real-life stories and the tireless work being done to create a safer and more inclusive world for all. Whether you're sipping your morning coffee or winding down after a busy day, settle in and join us. Don't forget, you can be part of this vital conversation too. Reach out to jo.lockwood@seechangehappen.co.uk to share your insights or join me on the show. Let's ignite the spark of inclusion with Inclusion Bites.

💬 Keywords

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Inclusion Bites, Joanne Lockwood, Susie Green, Anne Health, trans health care, trans kids, societal transformation, support for trans families, gender identity, mermaids organization, puberty blockers, NHS, Gender GP, trans advocacy, West Streeting, CAS report, unethical clinical trials, discrimination, mainstream media, gender recognition, HRT, trans rights, mental health, legal advice, private healthcare, trans allies, youth support, self-medication, societal inclusion, political influence.

These keywords comprehensively encapsulate the various themes and topics discussed in the provided transcript.

About this Episode

About The Episode:

In this episode of Inclusion Bites, we welcome Susie Green from Anne Health, who shares her transformative journey in supporting trans individuals through compassionate and accessible health care. With over two decades of first-hand experience and a drive to enact change, Susie provides profound insights into the landscape of trans health and highlights the necessity of inclusive medical practices. Join us as we navigate the challenging narratives and uplifting strides in trans health care that Susie and her team are passionately driving.

Today, we'll cover:

  • The personal catalyst behind the creation of Anne Health and its mission to provide comprehensive support for trans individuals.

  • The impact of societal and political rhetoric on the lives of trans people, especially trans youth.

  • The ethical considerations and human rights issues surrounding puberty blockers and gender-affirming care.

  • The significant challenges and barriers trans individuals face in accessing timely and appropriate medical care.

  • The dangers and consequences of forcing untreated puberty on trans youth as a method of so-called 'assurance'.

  • Developing sustainable, compassionate, and legally sound healthcare models for the trans community.

  • The importance of human touch and real-life interactions in providing medical assistance versus reliance on AI-driven healthcare solutions.

By engaging with this episode, listeners will gain actionable insights into fostering inclusivity and empathy within healthcare systems, understanding the ongoing battles for trans rights, and the critical need for supportive medical environments.

💡 Speaker bios

Joanne Lockwood is a passionate advocate for inclusion and belonging, steering transformative conversations through her platform, "Inclusion Bites." As a dedicated guide, she delves into the essence of societal change, challenging norms and uncovering hidden truths to create a world where everyone not only belongs but thrives. Joanne's mission is to connect, reflect, and inspire action in her audience, inviting them to contribute and join the conversation. Whether over a morning coffee or at the end of a long day, Joanne Lockwood is committed to fostering a community where every voice is heard and valued. Reach out to her at jo.lockwood@seechangehappen.co.uk to share your stories or join the dialogue.

💡 Speaker bios

Susie Green

Susie Green's life took an unexpected path when her four-year-old child declared that God had made a mistake and she should have been a girl. Completely unaware of trans rights or the complexities of being transgender, Susie embarked on a steep learning curve. As her daughter's primary advocate, Susie dedicated herself to understanding what it meant to be trans, ensuring she could provide the necessary support. Initially oblivious to the nuances of transgender identity, Susie educated herself to champion her daughter's right to live as her true self, realising that every trans adult once started as a trans child. Her journey from ignorance to advocacy showcases her unwavering dedication and love as a parent.

❇️ Key topics and bullets

Certainly, here is a comprehensive sequence of topics covered in the transcript, with sub-topic bullets below each primary topic:

Introduction

  • Joanne Lockwood introduces the Inclusion Bites Podcast.

  • Details about the host and how to get involved.

Episode Details

  • Episode title: Healthcare with a Heart

  • Introduction of the guest: Susie Green

  • Description of Susie Green's superpower.

Susie Green's Background

  • Susie Green's motivations and experiences with her trans child.

  • Initial lack of knowledge about trans issues.

  • The pivotal moment when her daughter expressed her gender identity at 4 years old.

  • Journey of learning and supporting her daughter.

  • Discovering resources such as Mermaids and its impact.

Historical Context

  • Social and legal landscape 25 years ago:

    • Pre-Equality Act 2010 and Pre-Gender Recognition Act 2004.

    • Limited resources and support networks.

Societal Rhetoric

  • Negative media and societal narratives surrounding trans people and trans children.

  • Common misconceptions and harmful rhetoric.

  • Comparing societal focus on trans issues versus other societal issues.

Personal Attacks and Public Perception

  • Susie and Joanne discussing their personal experiences with public and media attacks.

  • The emotional and psychological toll.

  • Strategies for coping with negativity and false accusations.

Health Care Challenges

  • Current landscape of trans healthcare.

  • Issues with access to health care for trans people, especially during earlier years.

  • Global implications, such as recent developments in the US and their impact.

  • Ethical concerns about clinical trials and their impact on trans people.

Anne Health Initiative

  • Vision and mission of Anne Health.

  • Susie Green's transition from Mermaids to co-founding Anne Health.

  • The challenges and motivations behind starting the organization.

  • Initial funding and support mechanism.

  • Operational principles and the focus on ethical healthcare practices.

Political and Social Impact

  • Discussing political actions impacting trans healthcare.

  • Implications of legislation like the puberty blocker ban.

  • Creating an inclusive and supportive environment amidst political challenges.

Call to Action and Closing

  • Emphasis on the importance of community support and advocacy.

  • Encouragement for listeners to get involved and make their voices heard.

  • Joanne Lockwood's closing remarks and invitation for audience engagement.

Contact and Further Information

  • Details on how to contact Joanne Lockwood and Susie Green.

  • Information about the Anne Health website and services.

This sequence covers the primary topics and sub-topics discussed in this episode of the Inclusion Bites Podcast as per the provided transcript.

The Hook

Sure, here are five potential hooks for the email newsletter promoting this podcast episode.


  1. "Imagine being the lifeline for someone who's just discovered they don't fit into the societal norm... What would you do next? Today, we dive into the heart of TRANSFORMATIVE HEALTHCARE that does more than just heal – it EMPOWERS. Ready to challenge everything you thought you knew?"

  2. "Ever felt society's rules are NOISE holding you back? Discover how one bold conversation is BREAKING DOWN BARRIERS and PAVING NEW PATHS for inclusive healthcare. This isn't just about medicine – it's about VALIDATION and BELONGING."

  3. "What if the key to thriving in life lies in simply being SEEN and HEARD? Buckle up as we unveil a journey that's challenging the STATUS QUO in healthcare – and SPOILER ALERT: it's as revolutionary as it is compassionate. Curious?"

  4. "Think healthcare is all about cold, clinical efficiency? Think AGAIN. This episode uncovers a WORLD where healthcare is infused with LOVE, RESILIENCE, and EMPOWERMENT. It’s time to rethink what care truly means... Wanna join?"

  5. "Ever wonder how genuine support can transform lives? On this journey, we delve into a DEEPLY MOVING conversation about inclusive healthcare that’s not just about treatment, but HEARTFELT CONNECTION. Prepare to be inspired!"

🎬 Reel script

Hey there, it's Joanne Lockwood from the Inclusion Bites Podcast! In our latest episode, "Healthcare with a Heart," I sat down with Susie Green, co-founder of Anne Health. We dug deep into the challenges and triumphs of providing compassionate healthcare for trans individuals. Susie shared personal stories, revealing her journey from being a mum to a trans child to leading a major healthcare initiative. We tackled the misconceptions, the struggles within the current healthcare system, and the importance of authentic support. Don't miss this enlightening conversation that champions inclusivity and resilience. Listen now and be part of the change!

🗞️ Newsletter

Subject: 🏥 Healthcare with a Heart: Episode 155 of Inclusion Bites Podcast 🏥

Dear [Subscriber's Name],

Welcome back to another enriching edition of the Inclusion Bites Newsletter! We're delighted to have you join us as we continue our journey into the world of inclusion and belonging.

This Week’s Spotlight: Healthcare with a Heart

In Episode 155, Joanne Lockwood sits down with Susie Green, cofounder and codirector of Anne Health. This episode, titled "Healthcare with a Heart," delves into the compassionate, accessible healthcare Anne Health provides for trans people of all ages.

Highlights from the Episode:

  1. Personal Inspiration:

    • Susie shares her personal journey, which began with her trans daughter Jackie, who articulated her gender identity as early as four years old. Despite initial ignorance, Susie quickly became her daughter's fiercest advocate, seeking out resources and support.

  2. Challenges and Societal Rhetoric:

    • The conversation reveals the heartfelt struggle against societal rhetoric that vilifies trans people. Susie discusses the virulent opposition and misinformation faced by trans individuals and their families, and how societal perceptions have unfortunately influenced even healthcare policies.

  3. Anne Health's Mission:

    • Firmly believing in ethical and personalised medical care, Susie highlights how Anne Health arose from a need for better and more supportive healthcare for trans people. The organisation offers a lifeline for individuals who might otherwise turn to unsafe practices.

  4. Political and Societal Barriers:

    • The discussion tackles the significant barriers posed by political actions, such as the puberty blocker ban and its harsh implications on young trans people. Both Joanne and Susie express their deep concerns over the increasing constraints on trans healthcare both in the UK and worldwide.

Key Takeaways:

  • Empathy and Advocacy:

    • Susie’s story is a powerful reminder of the importance of empathy and advocacy in healthcare and beyond. Her efforts demonstrate the power of one person’s determination to create change.

  • Challenges in Trans Healthcare:

    • The episode sheds light on the often unseen challenges that trans individuals face in accessing appropriate healthcare, reminding us of the urgent need for inclusive policies and practices.

  • Support Networks:

    • It underscores the importance of community and support networks in fostering resilience and well-being among trans individuals and their families.

Join the Conversation:

We encourage you to listen to this compelling episode and share your thoughts. Let's keep the conversation about inclusion and belonging alive and strong.

How to Listen:

You can catch Episode 155 and all previous episodes on our website or your preferred podcast platform. Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a review!

Contact Us:

Do you have thoughts or stories to share? Reach out to Joanne Lockwood at jo.lockwood@seechangehappen.co.uk.

Listen Now: https://seechangehappen.co.uk/inclusion-bites-listen

Let’s continue driving change, one conversation at a time.

Warm regards,

Joanne Lockwood
Host, Inclusion Bites Podcast
SEE Change Happen
Email: jo.lockwood@seechangehappen.co.uk
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1/ 🏳️‍⚧️🚀 Welcome to Episode 155 of Inclusion Bites! Dive into "Healthcare with a Heart" as Joanne Lockwood (@JoLockwood1965) chats with Susie Green, co-founder of Anne Health. Discover their mission to provide compassionate healthcare for trans people 🌈💖 #InclusionBites #TransHealth

2/ 🌟 Susie Green’s superpower? Empowering trans kids and their families with care, resilience, and love. 💪 Join us as she shares her inspiring journey and what drove her to become a powerful advocate in trans healthcare. #TransRights #Healthcare

3/ 🗓️ From raising a trans child in the early 2000s to facing today's challenging rhetoric, Susie’s story is a beacon of hope. She dives into the past, pre-Equality Act 2010, and the early days of Mermaids UK. 📚 #TransHistory #Hope

4/ 🌐 Did you know? Susie found support via an old "Ask Jeeves" search, leading her to Mermaids. The power of support networks is real! 🌟 #Community #Support #LGBTQ

5/ 🎙️ Joanne and Susie discuss the harsh realities of today’s anti-trans rhetoric and its impact on vulnerable communities. 🔥 Why would anyone choose this path if it wasn’t their truth? This episode tackles these tough and poignant questions. #Inclusion #Awareness

6/ 👩‍⚕️🧠 "To deny access to medication is not a neutral act." - Susie Green. The episode delves into the ethics of trans healthcare and the undeniable need for compassionate, medically overseen care. #HealthcareEthics #TransKids

7/ 💔 With the rising anti-trans policies, especially in the US and UK, the emotional toll on trans youth and their families is heartbreaking. Susie shares her thoughts on how politics should never dictate healthcare. 🏥🚫 #HealthcareForAll #TransYouth

8/ 🌈✨ Enter Anne Health: A lifeline for many. Susie and her co-founder, Lizzie, aim to offer affordable, medically sound healthcare for trans people, prioritising human connection and support. 🤝💡 #AnneHealth #InnovativeHealthcare

9/ 🥇 The dedication of Anne Health to providing real person support is crucial. With the NHS under strain and other options limited, Anne Health is a beacon of hope. ⭐️🌏 #MentalHealth #CommunityCare

10/ ⚖️💬 Legal backing by David Locke has fortified Anne Health’s foundation, ensuring that their services are both robust and rightful. Legal battles and medical ethics align in this quest for justice. #LegalRights #HealthcareJustice

11/ 🌍💖 Join the conversation, support the cause and help foster a more inclusive world! Let’s amplify voices that matter. Visit https://anne.health to learn more and get involved. #InclusionBites #TransHealthcare

12/ ✨ Ready to make a difference? Tune into Inclusion Bites and join our ever-growing community driving real change. Together, we can challenge, inspire, and unite for a more inclusive future. #Podcast #InclusiveWorld

13/ 🙏 Special thanks to Susie Green for sharing her journey and insights. Remember, to get in touch, reach out to Joanne at jo.lockwood@seechangehappen.co.uk. Let's continue these vital conversations! 🎧💬 #ThankYou #StayConnected

14/ 🚀 Let's hold the rope and keep striving for a world where everyone belongs and thrives. Until next time, catch the next bite! 🌍✨ #KeepFighting #Inclusion

15/ 💌 Don't miss out! Subscribe to Inclusion Bites: https://seechangehappen.co.uk/inclusion-bites-listen for more enriching narratives. Let's make this world a place of true belonging. 🏳️‍⚧️💫 #Inclusion #Belonging

Feel free to share your thoughts or stories. Together, we can ignite the spark of inclusion! 🚀 #InclusionBites #Inclusion #HealthcareWithAHeart #TransRights #PositivePeopleExperiences

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Navigating the Landscape of Trans Healthcare: My Conversation on The Inclusion Bites Podcast

Hello Friends,

I recently had the privilege of being a guest on The Inclusion Bites Podcast hosted by the insightful and passionate Joanne Lockwood. This engaging episode, aptly titled "Healthcare with a Heart," delves into the urgent issues and challenges facing trans healthcare today.

A Journey Rooted in Personal Experience

In this episode, I share the deeply personal journey that led me to co-found and co-direct Anne Health, an organisation dedicated to providing compassionate and accessible healthcare for trans people of all ages. From the very inception, my mission has been to empower trans kids and their families with care, resilience, and love. The story began with my daughter, who bravely expressed her true identity at the tender age of four, setting me on a path of learning and advocacy that has spanned over two decades.

The Importance of Accessible Healthcare

One of the pivotal topics Joanne and I discussed was the profound impact of accessible, compassionate healthcare on trans individuals and their families. Despite the heated rhetoric and political barriers, the need for a supportive and understanding healthcare ecosystem cannot be overstated. Through Anne Health, we aim to provide personalised, medically overseen care that contrasts starkly with the often impersonal, algorithm-driven services that many have unfortunately encountered.

Addressing the Barriers and Looking Forward

The podcast also provided a platform to address the substantial barriers that exist in the realm of trans healthcare, including the unethical practices linked with forcing young people into clinical trials, and the disastrous impact of the puberty blocker ban in the UK. We highlighted how Anne Health navigates these challenges, ensuring that our approach remains ethical, legal, and most importantly, centred on the well-being of our service users.

Amplifying Voices, Sharing Stories

What made this conversation particularly enriching was Joanne's commitment to amplifying voices and sharing stories that often go unheard. Whether you're a trans individual, a family member, or an ally, this episode is a must-listen for understanding the nuances and real-life implications of trans healthcare today.

I invite you all to tune into this enlightening discussion on The Inclusion Bites Podcast. Together, we can foster a world where everyone not just belongs but thrives.

Listen to the full episode here.

With resilience and love,

Susie Green

Co-Founder and Co-Director, Anne Health


Feel free to adjust or expand upon this template to better fit Susie's specific marketing needs!

Pain Points and Challenges

Certainly! Here’s a list of specific pain points and challenges discussed during the podcast "Healthcare with a Heart" and content focused on addressing those issues:

Pain Points and Challenges Discussed:

  1. Awareness and Education Gap:

    • Lack of understanding and misinformation about trans rights and healthcare needs.

    • The misconception that educating children on trans issues persuades them to transition.

  2. Healthcare Access:

    • The broken NHS system and the long waiting times for gender identity clinics.

    • Limited and expensive private care options.

    • Inadequate GP support and the withdrawal of treatment by some GPs.

  3. Political Influence and Legislation:

    • The impact of political decisions, such as the puberty blocker ban, on trans youth.

    • The unethical nature of forced clinical trials as a form of healthcare access.

  4. Societal and Media Rhetoric:

    • Negative media portrayal of trans people as predators or as part of a harmful agenda.

    • The rising anti-trans rhetoric and its influence on societal attitudes.

  5. Mental Health and Well-being:

    • The emotional and psychological toll on trans individuals and their families due to societal and legislative pressures.

Content Focused on Addressing These Issues:

Awareness and Education Gap

  • Content Title: "Educating Without Fear: Clearing Misconceptions about Trans Awareness in Schools"Content:

    • Introduction:

      • Briefly explain the importance of education in fostering acceptance and understanding.

    • Main Body:

      • Debunking Myths: Clearly state that educating children about trans issues does not influence their gender identity, but promotes acceptance.

      • Expert Opinions: Include insights from psychologists and educators on the positive impact of inclusive education.

    • Conclusion:

      • Call to action for parents and educators to support inclusive education curriculums.

Healthcare Access

  • Content Title: "Breaking Barriers: Navigating Trans Healthcare in the UK"Content:

    • Introduction:

      • Highlight the issues faced by trans individuals in accessing appropriate healthcare.

    • Main Body:

      • NHS Challenges: Provide detailed information on the long waiting times and suggest alternative interim solutions such as trusted private practices.

      • GP Support: Provide guidance on how to find supportive GPs and legal avenues if a GP withdraws treatment.

    • Conclusion:

      • Encourage readers to advocate for better healthcare policies and support organizations like Anne Health.

Political Influence and Legislation

  • Content Title: "The Ethics of Trans Youth Healthcare: A Call for Compassionate Policies"Content:

    • Introduction:

      • Discuss how political decisions are affecting trans healthcare.

    • Main Body:

      • Legislation Impact: Detail the specific legislative changes and their consequences on trans youth.

      • Ethics of Clinical Trials: Present arguments against forced clinical trials and the importance of ethical healthcare practices.

    • Conclusion:

      • Advocate for policy changes and direct readers to support campaigns and petitions for better healthcare rights.

Societal and Media Rhetoric

  • Content Title: "Changing the Narrative: Media Responsibility in Trans Representation"Content:

    • Introduction:

      • Highlight the negative impact of biased media portrayals of trans people.

    • Main Body:

      • Current Media Landscape: Analyze examples of negative portrayals and their societal impact.

      • Positive Representation: Showcase media outlets and programmes that positively and accurately represent trans individuals.

    • Conclusion:

      • Call for responsible journalism and media consumption, encouraging readers to support positive representations.

Mental Health and Well-being

  • Content Title: "Supporting Mental Health in the Trans Community: Practical Steps and Resources"Content:

    • Introduction:

      • Address the mental health challenges faced by trans individuals due to societal pressures and healthcare access.

    • Main Body:

      • Mental Health Resources: Provide information on support groups, mental health services, and helplines.

      • Self-Care Tips: Offer practical advice for trans individuals and their families to manage stress and anxiety.

    • Conclusion:

      • Encourage a supportive community and remind readers of the importance of compassionate listening and allyship.

By focusing on these key pain points and challenges raised during the podcast, this content aims to provide valuable information, resources, and actionable steps to support the trans community and foster a more inclusive society.

Questions Asked that were insightful

Absolutely, the interview between Joanne Lockwood and Susie Green covered a range of compelling topics that generated insightful responses. Here are some specific questions and answers from the transcript that could be turned into a series of FAQs:

1. What inspired Susie Green to become involved in trans healthcare and advocacy?

Q: What first inspired you to do this?
A: Susie Green shared that having a trans child was the catalyst. Her daughter expressed her true gender identity at the age of four, which led Susie to educate herself on trans rights and healthcare (transcript, [00:02:15]).

2. What were the early experiences and challenges Susie Green faced in supporting her trans daughter?

Q: How did you find people to support you?
A: Susie Green described finding support through an Ask Jeeves search that led her to Mermaids, and how pivotal it was to connect with other parents going through similar experiences (transcript, [00:05:07]).

3. How has societal perception affected the trans community, according to Susie Green?

Q: Why does it affect anybody else, and why is it nobody else's business?
A: Susie Green highlighted the damaging societal narratives that paint trans people as predators and the challenges of combating misinformation and prejudice (transcript, [00:09:08]).

4. What impact does the recent political climate have on trans healthcare both in the US and the UK?

Q: Where are we now with the situation in the US and how does it affect the UK?
A: Susie Green discussed the severe impact of recent executive orders in the US on trans youth's healthcare, and how these policies influence the situation in the UK (transcript, [00:25:19]).

5. Why is personalised care essential in trans healthcare, according to Susie Green?

Q: Why is personalised care crucial in healthcare for trans individuals?
A: Susie detailed the importance of having real-life discussions with healthcare providers and avoiding reliance solely on AI for medical decisions (transcript, [00:47:42]).

6. What are the aims and benefits of Anne Health?

Q: Can you tell us about the idea behind and the mission of Anne Health?
A: Susie explained that Anne Health is dedicated to providing compassionate, accessible, and medically overseen care for trans people, aiming to be a more affordable and personalised alternative (transcript, [00:39:50]).

7. How are current UK policies affecting trans youth healthcare, according to Susie Green?

Q: How are the current policies in the UK affecting trans youth healthcare?
A: Susie criticised the UK's policies, particularly around banning puberty blockers for trans youth, arguing that it's an unethical practice likened to forced conversion therapy (transcript, [00:29:19]).

8. What support mechanisms are available at Anne Health?

Q: What support mechanisms does Anne Health offer to its clients?
A: Susie elaborated on their helpline, consultations with doctors, and personalised care, along with their efforts to provide subsidised care for those who can't afford it (transcript, [00:50:36]).


These questions and answers not only encapsulate the vital points discussed in the interview but also provide a potential FAQ resource for listeners seeking more information and context on trans healthcare, advocacy, and the work being done by organisations like Anne Health.

Blog article based on the episode

Healthcare with a Heart: Transforming Trans Lives Through Compassionate Care

Opening Hook:

Imagine a healthcare system so compassionate, inclusive, and accessible that no one is left behind, regardless of their identity. Picture a world where every trans person can live authentically without fear or prejudice—a sanctuary of support amidst the cacophony of exclusion. Welcome to the brave new world of "Healthcare with a Heart."

The Problem:

In the latest episode of the Inclusion Bites Podcast titled "Healthcare with a Heart," host Joanne Lockwood delves into the urgent and complex world of trans healthcare alongside Susie Green, co-founder and co-director of Anne Health. Susie shares her personal journey of advocating for her trans daughter, highlighting the profound challenges faced by trans individuals and their families when seeking compassionate healthcare. From battling ignorance and systemic bias to navigating the perilous terrain of political and societal rhetoric, trans healthcare is fraught with formidable obstacles.

Susie Green's experience underscores the alarming reality that trans individuals, especially trans youth, often encounter significant barriers in accessing appropriate medical support. These barriers include healthcare providers' reluctance to provide gender-affirming care, lengthy waiting lists for specialised services, and restrictive legislative measures that exacerbate the hardships faced by trans communities.

The Human Impact:

One of the most poignant moments in the podcast is Susie Green recounting her daughter's declaration at the tender age of four that "God had made a mistake" and she should have been a girl. Susie's journey from ignorance to becoming a fierce advocate for her daughter epitomises the struggle for many parents in similar situations. The lack of knowledge, support, and resources can leave families feeling isolated and desperate.

In a gut-wrenching revelation, Susie describes how the rhetoric and policies against trans people have devastating consequences, notably highlighted by the ban on puberty blockers in the UK. This ban, driven by political rather than scientific motives, has already led to tragic outcomes, including the loss of young lives. The emotional toll on trans youth denied access to essential care is immeasurable, further amplified by societal disdain and misunderstanding.

Actionable Insights:

So, what can be done to dismantle these barriers and foster a more inclusive healthcare environment for trans individuals? The conversation between Joanne and Susie offers several actionable insights:

  1. Educate Healthcare Providers:
    Healthcare professionals must receive comprehensive training in gender-affirming care. This training should cover the unique medical and psychological needs of trans patients, emphasising empathy and understanding. Providers should be equipped to offer informed and compassionate care without bias or prejudice.

  2. Advocate for Policy Change:
    It is crucial to challenge discriminatory policies and advocate for legislative changes that protect and support trans individuals. Engaging in dialogue with policymakers, participating in advocacy groups, and supporting organisations that fight for trans rights are vital steps in driving systemic change.

  3. Create Support Networks:
    Building robust support networks for trans individuals and their families can alleviate feelings of isolation and provide much-needed resources. Organisations like Anne Health play a pivotal role in offering medical care, emotional support, and legal guidance to those in need.

  4. Promote Positive Representation:
    Media representation of trans individuals should be diverse, authentic, and free from harmful stereotypes. Positive portrayals can help change societal perceptions and reduce stigma, fostering a more accepting and inclusive environment.

  5. Inclusive Education:
    Integrating comprehensive sex and gender education in schools can create a more informed and accepting generation. Educating children about gender diversity can reduce bullying and discrimination, promoting empathy and understanding from a young age.

A Call to Action:

As we reflect on the insights shared by Susie Green in this powerful episode of Inclusion Bites, it is evident that creating a truly inclusive healthcare system requires collective effort. Whether you are a healthcare professional, policymaker, educator, or an ally, your actions can make a significant difference.

  • Healthcare Professionals: Seek out training opportunities to enhance your understanding of gender-affirming care. Be proactive in creating a welcoming environment for trans patients and advocate for their needs within your institutions.

  • Policymakers: Listen to the voices of trans individuals and their families. Craft legislation that protects their rights and ensures equal access to healthcare. Eliminate policies that perpetuate discrimination and harm.

  • Educators: Foster inclusive classrooms by incorporating diverse perspectives on gender and sexuality into your curriculum. Encourage empathy and respect among students, creating a safe space for all identities.

  • Allies: Stand in solidarity with the trans community. Support organisations like Anne Health through donations or volunteer work. Amplify trans voices and advocate for their rights in your daily interactions.

In Susie Green's words, "We are simply trying to get on and live our lives." Let's join hands to create a world where no one has to fight for their right to exist authentically. Listen to the full episode of "Healthcare with a Heart" on the Inclusion Bites Podcast for more inspiring insights and actionable steps. Together, we can ignite the spark of inclusion and create a more compassionate, accepting world for all.

Listen to the Episode:

For more on this compelling discussion, visit the Inclusion Bites Podcast here and become a part of the conversation. Reach out to Joanne Lockwood at jo.lockwood@seechangehappen.co.uk to share your thoughts, stories, and visions for a more inclusive society. Let's make every heartbeat count in the journey towards equality and acceptance.

#InclusionBites #HealthcareWithAHeart #TransRights #InclusiveHealthcare #SupportTransLives

The standout line from this episode

The standout line from this episode is:

"Politics has no place in health care. No place in health care."

This was stated by Susie Green and encapsulates a key theme of the episode, highlighting the detrimental impact of political interference in the provision of health care for trans individuals.

❓ Questions

Certainly! Here are 10 discussion questions based on the episode "Healthcare with a Heart" of the Inclusion Bites Podcast featuring Joanne Lockwood and Susie Green:

  1. Personal Motivation:

    • What inspired Susie Green to become an advocate for trans healthcare, and how did her personal experiences shape her journey?

  2. Early Challenges:

    • What were some of the early challenges Susie faced when seeking support for her trans daughter, and how did she overcome them?

  3. Impact of Legislation:

    • How does the current political and legislative environment in the UK and the US impact trans healthcare and support for trans youth?

  4. Public Perception:

    • How does the portrayal of trans people in mainstream media influence public perception, and what are the repercussions of such portrayals?

  5. Role of Advocacy:

    • What role do advocacy and support groups play in the lives of trans individuals and their families, according to Susie’s experiences?

  6. Healthcare Accessibility:

    • Discuss the issues surrounding the accessibility of healthcare for trans people in the UK. How does Anne Health aim to fill this gap?

  7. Ethics in Healthcare:

    • How does Susie Green address the ethical concerns related to clinical trials and the provision of puberty blockers for trans youth?

  8. Systemic Barriers:

    • What systemic barriers exist within the NHS and other healthcare systems that hinder effective support for trans people, and how can these be addressed?

  9. Impact of Support:

    • Reflect on the importance of having a supportive and compassionate healthcare provider for trans individuals. How does this impact their wellbeing?

  10. Future of Trans Healthcare:

    • What future developments or changes does Susie Green hope to see in trans healthcare, both within the NHS and in private healthcare provisions?

These questions are designed to spark thoughtful discussion and analysis of the key themes and issues raised in the podcast episode.

FAQs from the Episode

FAQ: Healthcare with a Heart - Addressing Trans Healthcare Needs

Q1: What is the main topic of this episode of the Inclusion Bites Podcast?

A: This episode, titled "Healthcare with a Heart," centres on providing compassionate and accessible healthcare for trans people of all ages. The discussion features Susie Green, co-founder and co-director of Anne Health.

Q2: Who is Susie Green, and why is she an important figure in trans healthcare?

A: Susie Green is the co-founder and co-director of Anne Health. She has been a prominent advocate for trans rights and healthcare, inspired by her experiences raising a trans child. She works tirelessly to improve access to compassionate and medically sound healthcare for the trans community.

Q3: What inspired Susie Green to start her journey in trans healthcare advocacy?

A: Susie Green was inspired to become an advocate after her daughter expressed that she should have been a girl at the age of four. This personal experience led Susie to educate herself and support her daughter, eventually leading to her broader advocacy for trans rights and healthcare.

Q4: What is Anne Health, and what problem does it aim to solve?

A: Anne Health is an organisation co-founded by Susie Green, dedicated to providing compassionate, accessible healthcare for trans people of all ages. It aims to fill the gap in quality and personalised healthcare services for trans individuals, especially in light of the challenges they face with NHS services and other providers.

Q5: How did Anne Health manage to launch despite initial financial difficulties?

A: Anne Health was able to launch thanks to a significant financial gift from a benefactor who believed in their mission. This funding was crucial for kickstarting the organisation and providing the needed services.

Q6: What kind of challenges does Anne Health face in providing trans healthcare?

A: One of the major challenges Anne Health faces is the potential legal and societal backlash against providing healthcare services to trans individuals, especially youth. They have, however, received robust legal advice to ensure their operations are within the legal framework.

Q7: How does Anne Health ensure the quality of its healthcare services?

A: Anne Health ensures quality by guaranteeing that every patient sees a doctor, rather than relying solely on AI systems for healthcare recommendations. They also provide a helpline and web chat options for real-time support, ensuring patients' questions and concerns are promptly addressed.

Q8: What is Susie Green's stance on the current political climate regarding trans healthcare?

A: Susie Green is highly critical of the current political climate, which she believes is unjustly targeting trans individuals, especially youth. She highlights the importance of separating politics from healthcare and advocates for evidence-based approaches to support trans healthcare needs.

Q9: What does Susie Green believe about the claims that educating children about trans issues will make them want to be trans?

A: Susie Green strongly refutes these claims, arguing that being trans is a difficult path that no one would choose lightly. She emphasises that education about trans issues is about allowing people to live authentically, not persuading them to be trans.

Q10: How can individuals get in touch with Anne Health for support or enquiries?

A: Individuals can visit the website at https://anne.health for information. They can also contact the team via the helpline or web chat during business hours (9 to 5, Monday to Friday) or email at hello@anne.health. All enquiries are handled by real people committed to providing support.

Q11: What are the main aims of the Inclusion Bites podcast?

A: The Inclusion Bites podcast, hosted by Joanne Lockwood, aims to delve deep into the transformative world of inclusive cultures and nurturing belonging. It covers untold stories, challenges, and triumphs from changemakers to inspire and equip listeners with actionable insights for driving real change.

Q12: How can listeners participate in the Inclusion Bites podcast?

A: Listeners can participate by reaching out with their insights or joining the show. Contact Joanne Lockwood at jo.lockwood@seechangehappen.co.uk to share thoughts or get involved in the conversation.

Tell me more about the guest and their views

Certainly! In Episode 155 of Inclusion Bites titled "Healthcare with a Heart," the guest was Susie Green. Susie is the cofounder and co-director of Anne Health, an organisation dedicated to providing compassionate and accessible healthcare for trans people of all ages. Here's a breakdown of her views and experiences shared during the podcast:

Personal Motivation

Susie Green's inspiration to support trans health care stemmed from her personal experience with her daughter, who expressed her gender identity as a girl at the age of four. Initially unaware of trans rights and healthcare, Susie quickly educated herself to become her daughter's advocate.

Advocacy for Trans Youth

Susie's primary focus has been on providing support for trans youth and their families. She described her daughter’s journey and the challenges they faced, including finding Mermaids, an organisation she later led. Susie has dealt with various medical professionals and organisations, aiming to find the best care for her daughter.

Critique of Anti-Trans Narratives

Susie voiced strong criticism of the prevalent anti-trans rhetoric and misinformation in the mainstream media. She highlighted the harmful effects of portraying trans people, especially trans women and trans youth, as predatory or dangerous. Susie emphasised the absurdity and danger of these narratives, which only serve to inflame prejudice and harm a vulnerable minority.

Puberty Blockers and Medical Ethics

Susie was critical of recent government actions, particularly the banning of puberty blockers for trans youth in the UK. She described the ban as political rather than science-based, pointing out that denying access to these treatments has severe mental and emotional consequences for trans youth. She also criticised the ethics of clinical trials that force individuals to forego needed treatments.

Founding Anne Health

Finding flaws in existing private healthcare provisions, Susie co-founded Anne Health. The goal was to provide personalised, medically overseen care for trans individuals, focusing on both support and safety. Anne Health operates with the principle of offering holistic and human-centric healthcare, in contrast to more automated, algorithm-driven models like those criticised in other services.

Community Impact

Susie underlined the significant positive impact that supportive healthcare services have on the trans community. She addressed the importance of human contact, noting that Anne Health's model includes a helpline and web chat to provide immediate support and reassurance to those in need.

Ongoing Challenges

Despite their efforts, Susie acknowledged the ongoing challenges her organisation faces. Legal pressures and societal prejudice continue to pose significant hurdles. Nevertheless, she remains resolute in her mission to provide much-needed healthcare and support to trans individuals.

In summary, Susie Green is a passionate advocate for trans health care, driven by personal experience and committed to challenging harmful narratives and providing compassionate and inclusive care through her organisation, Anne Health.

Ideas for Future Training and Workshops based on this Episode

Certainly! Drawing from the discussion in the episode "Healthcare with a Heart" featuring Susie Green, here are some training and workshop ideas:

1. Understanding Transgender Health Needs

Objective: Educate participants on the specific healthcare requirements of transgender individuals.

Content:

  • Differences in healthcare needs for trans adults versus trans youth.

  • Common misconceptions about transgender health.

  • The importance of inclusive and affirming healthcare practices.

Activities:

  • Case studies on healthcare experiences from the transgender community.

  • Role-playing exercises to practice compassionate communication.

2. Combating Anti-Trans Rhetoric and Misinformation

Objective: Equip participants with skills to identify and counteract harmful narratives about transgender individuals.

Content:

  • Analysis of common anti-trans rhetoric.

  • Strategies for addressing misinformation in personal and professional contexts.

  • The psychological impact of anti-trans narratives on individuals.

Activities:

  • Group discussions on recent media portrayals of transgender issues.

  • Debating exercises to practice countering negative rhetoric.

3. Empowering Trans Youth and Their Families

Objective: Provide tools and resources to support trans youth and their families effectively.

Content:

  • The journey of a trans youth and their family, as shared by Susie Green.

  • Legal and medical considerations for supporting trans youth.

  • Resources and organisations that provide support.

Activities:

  • Interactive Q&A sessions with trans youth advocates.

  • Workshops on creating safe and supportive environments at home and in schools.

4. Legal and Ethical Considerations in Trans Healthcare

Objective: Navigate the legal and ethical landscape surrounding transgender healthcare.

Content:

  • Overview of current laws and regulations affecting trans healthcare.

  • Ethical considerations in prescribing and managing hormone treatments.

  • The role of healthcare providers in advocating for trans rights.

Activities:

  • Scenario analysis of legal cases impacting transgender individuals.

  • Panel discussions with legal experts and healthcare providers.

5. Inclusive Practices for Healthcare Providers

Objective: Train healthcare professionals in inclusive practices to improve the experience of trans patients.

Content:

  • Best practices for creating an inclusive healthcare environment.

  • Training on using inclusive language and respecting pronouns.

  • Understanding barriers to healthcare access for trans individuals.

Activities:

  • Sensitivity training modules with real-life testimonies.

  • Workshops on revising healthcare forms and procedures for inclusivity.

6. Building Resilience and Support Networks for Trans Individuals

Objective: Develop strategies to build resilience and support networks for trans individuals and their families.

Content:

  • Stories of resilience from trans individuals and their advocates.

  • Techniques for building supportive communities.

  • The role of mental health professionals in supporting trans individuals.

Activities:

  • Guided discussions on resilience-building strategies.

  • Networking sessions to connect participants with local support groups and resources.

7. Allyship and Advocacy in Trans Healthcare

Objective: Mobilize participants to become effective allies and advocates for trans healthcare.

Content:

  • The importance of allyship and advocacy in driving change.

  • How to advocate for policy changes and improved healthcare practices.

  • Success stories of advocacy efforts making a tangible difference.

Activities:

  • Advocacy training workshops with experienced activists.

  • Developing personal allyship action plans.

8. Impact of Legislation on Trans Healthcare Access

Objective: Explore the impact of recent laws and policies on access to healthcare for trans individuals.

Content:

  • Analysis of the CAS report and other pivotal legislation mentioned by Susie Green.

  • Understanding international perspectives and comparing them with local laws.

  • Future trends and potential policy changes in trans healthcare.

Activities:

  • Legislative review and discussion groups.

  • Mock advocacy campaigns to influence policy change.

By focusing on these diverse but interconnected areas, workshops and training sessions can significantly contribute to enhancing knowledge, empathy, and effective action in supporting transgender health and inclusion.

🪡 Threads by Instagram
  1. Inclusion isn't just a buzzword—it’s a call to action. Our latest episode features Susie Green, who shares her journey of supporting trans youth with compassionate healthcare through Anne Health. Let’s delve deep into the real stories that challenge societal norms.

  2. Growing up trans in a world that misunderstands you is hard. In 'Healthcare with a Heart,' Susie Green opens up about her daughter’s early struggles and the inspiration behind Anne Health. Understanding and empathy are key to fostering true inclusion.

  3. Why would anyone choose a path filled with challenges? Susie Green debunks the myth that trans identity is a trend, highlighting the harsh realities faced by trans youth. Health care isn’t just a service; it's a lifeline.

  4. The rhetoric around trans identities is loud but often misinformed. Susie Green and I discuss the dangerous consequences of politicising healthcare. Listen to our conversation for a blend of compassion and fact-based insights that aim to transform how we see trans inclusion.

  5. From being misinformed to misrepresented, trans people face numerous hurdles. In our latest episode, Susie Green shares how Anne Health is making a tangible difference for trans youth and adults alike. It’s not just about treatment; it's about dignity and respect.

Leadership Insights - YouTube Short Video Script on Common Problems for Leaders to Address

Leadership Insights Channel: Addressing Trans Youth Healthcare

"Welcome to Leadership Insights Channel! Today, we're discussing a pressing issue leaders often encounter: ensuring compassionate support for trans youth in healthcare.

A common problem faced by leaders is navigating the often hostile and uninformed environment surrounding trans healthcare, which can leave trans youth feeling misunderstood and unsupported. We can draw vital lessons from Susie Green of Anne Health, who has been at the forefront of providing compassionate and accessible healthcare for trans youth.

Actionable Insights:

Firstly, Educate Yourself and Your Team: Understand the challenges trans youth face. As Susie puts it, many start this journey knowing nothing about trans rights or health (00:02:15). Engage with credible sources and experts to build a foundation of knowledge.

Secondly, Advocate for Ethical Care: Susie highlights that politics has no place in healthcare (00:27:59). Every decision should be made with the individual’s well-being in mind, avoiding unnecessary bureaucratic hurdles.

Lastly, Provide Personalised Support: Ensure that healthcare provision involves real-life interactions, not just automated systems. Anne Health’s model includes personal consultations, making individuals feel heard and supported.

By following these steps, leaders can foster an inclusive and supportive environment for trans youth, paving the way for broader societal transformation. Let’s make a positive impact together.

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Email Newsletter about this Podcast Episode

Subject: Unpack "Healthcare with a Heart" - An Insightful Episode Awaits You!

Hello Inclusion Bites Family,

Guess what? Our latest episode, “Healthcare with a Heart,” is live, and trust me, it’s one you don’t want to miss! This week, I sat down with the exceptional Susie Green, cofounder and co-director of Anne Health. Anne Health is dedicated to providing compassionate and accessible healthcare for trans people of all ages. Susie's journey and insights are truly transformative, and we’re thrilled to share them with you.

Here are 5 key takeaways from the episode:

  1. The Root of Compassionate Care: Discover how Susie’s personal experience with her trans daughter ignited her passion for ensuring trans youth receive the care and support they deserve.

  2. Overcoming Challenges: Learn about the obstacles Susie faced in her mission to provide appropriate healthcare solutions and how Anne Health is making strides despite these barriers.

  3. Establishing Support Systems: Understand the importance of having robust support, both in healthcare and community settings, to foster resilience and love in trans kids and their families.

  4. Addressing Misinformation: Susie and I delve into the damaging rhetoric surrounding trans healthcare and the importance of factual, empathetic discussions to combat this.

  5. Innovative Healthcare Models: Gain insights into the innovative approaches Anne Health is pioneering to ensure that trans individuals have safe and legal access to the care they need.

A unique fact from this episode? Susie shares the incredible story of how her daughter's early proclamation at just 4 years old that she was a girl, steered Susie's career and advocacy path, eventually leading to the co-founding of Anne Health (did you know it all started with an Ask Jeeves search!).

Ready to dive in? Tune in to “Healthcare with a Heart” [insert link to episode], and get inspired by the unwavering determination to create an inclusive world where everyone can thrive.

Let’s keep the conversation going! Share this episode with friends, family, and colleagues to amplify these crucial voices. And hey, if you’ve got thoughts, stories, or a vision to share, I’m all ears. Reach out at jo.lockwood@seechangehappen.co.uk. Let's make your voice heard.

Till next time, let's continue fostering a more inclusive world, one episode at a time.

Warmest wishes,

Joanne Lockwood

P.S. Be sure to listen, reflect, and join the Inclusion Bites family as we challenge, inspire, and unite through every bite! #InclusionBites #PositivePeopleExperiences

Potted Summary

Intro:

Join Joanne Lockwood as she hosts Susie Green in this compelling episode of Inclusion Bites titled "Healthcare with a Heart." Susie, co-founder of Anne Health, shares her journey supporting trans kids and their families. They discuss the ever-evolving landscape of trans healthcare and the challenges faced in today's society. Tune in for an insightful, heartfelt conversation that delves into personal experiences, systemic issues, and the drive to create a more inclusive world.

In this conversation we discuss:

👉 Supporting trans kids
👉 The rhetoric impacts
👉 Inclusive healthcare

Here are a few of our favourite quotable moments:

  1. "When my daughter told me that God had made a mistake and she should have been a girl at 4 years old, I had to learn, and I had to learn quickly because I needed to be there to support her." - Susie Green

  2. "It's about being able to live authentically. Everybody else gets to do that. Why shouldn't trans people have the same right?" - Susie Green

  3. "The narrative has gained ground in the general population’s head. Even though there is no evidence of what is being said." - Susie Green

Summary:

Dive into "Healthcare with a Heart" as Joanne Lockwood and Susie Green discuss the complexities and challenges of supporting trans youth. With Susie’s personal journey and professional insights, this episode offers a compelling look into inclusive healthcare. Don't miss the chance to be moved and inspired—listen now on Inclusion Bites.

LinkedIn Poll

Certainly! Here's a LinkedIn poll question with an opening summary and closing rationale for voting, based on insights from the episode "Healthcare with a Heart" of the Inclusion Bites Podcast.

LinkedIn Poll Summary:

In the latest episode of the Inclusion Bites Podcast, Joanne Lockwood speaks with Susie Green about the pressing issues facing the trans community, particularly in healthcare. Susie shares her journey and the challenges posed by societal narratives and healthcare policies. As we reflect on these conversations, we want to know your thoughts on the most urgent action that should be taken to support trans individuals in healthcare.

Poll Question:

What’s the most urgent action to support trans individuals in healthcare? 🌍💪 #InclusionBites #PositivePeopleExperiences #TransRights

Poll Options:

  1. Inclusive healthcare policies 🏥

  2. Access to HRT & blockers 💊

  3. Education & awareness 📚

  4. Anti-discrimination laws ⚖️

Closing Rationale:

Your voice matters! By voting, you help highlight the community's priorities and drive meaningful change. Let's work together to create a more inclusive and supportive environment for all. Thank you for participating! 🙏 #HealthcareWithAHeart #InclusionBites #TransEquality

Highlight the Importance of this topic on LinkedIn

Absolutely captivated by the latest episode of Inclusion Bites Podcast: Healthcare with a Heart! 🎧❤️

Joanne Lockwood has once again brought to light the importance of creating compassionate and accessible healthcare for the trans community. The conversation with Susie Green, cofounder and co-director of Anne Health, was nothing short of enlightening.

Key Takeaways:

  • Transformative Personal Journeys: Susie's advocacy for trans kids began with her own daughter, illustrating how personal experiences can fuel professional missions.

  • Urgent Healthcare Needs: Highlighting the dire need for personalised medical oversight and support within the trans community.

  • Facing Adversity Head-On: The resilience required to navigate societal rhetoric and legislative challenges is immense.

In our roles as HR and EDI professionals, this discussion is a clarion call to action. It's a reminder of why our industry must prioritise inclusive practices and ensure every voice is heard and respected.

Together, let's foster an environment where everyone, regardless of their gender identity, can thrive. 🌟

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and continuing this critical dialogue.

#InclusionBites #HealthcareWithAHeart #TransformativeJourneys #EDI #HR #TransInclusion #CompassionateCare

🔗 Listen to the episode

L&D Insights

Insights from “Healthcare with a Heart” Episode 155

Key Takeaways for Senior Leaders, HR, and EDI Professionals

  1. Compassionate Healthcare is Essential 💖

    • Susie Green's efforts with Anne Health highlight the necessity of providing compassionate and accessible healthcare tailored to the unique needs of the trans community, especially trans youth. Leaders should aim to develop holistic support systems that acknowledge these needs.

  2. Understanding the Realities of Trans Healthcare 🌍

    • An honest conversation about the current landscape of trans healthcare reveals the significant gaps and biases within the system. HR and EDI professionals should ensure that workplace health benefits include comprehensive support for the LGBTQ+ community.

  3. Personal Stories Matter 📖

    • Susie Green’s personal journey, driven by her trans daughter’s experiences, showcases the power of personal stories in driving change. Leaders should encourage sharing personal narratives within their organisations to foster understanding and empathy.

"Aha Moments" 🌟

  1. Inclusivity isn’t Optional; It’s a Necessity

    • The rhetoric discussed clearly shows that inclusivity policies aren’t just about ticking boxes but about protecting the well-being and rights of all employees.

  2. The Role Politics Plays in Healthcare

    • The episode uncovers how political decisions can severely impact healthcare provisions for the trans community, highlighting the importance of advocating for policies that support inclusivity and equality.

  3. Conversion Practices in Disguise

    • The discussion around CAS review and the push for a 'cisgender outcome' as a preferred one is eye-opening. Recognising these disguised conversion practices can lead professionals to champion more ethical and supportive approaches.

Actions to Take 📝

  1. Review Healthcare Policies

    • Ensure healthcare policies in your organisation are inclusive and cover gender-affirming treatments. Advocate for these changes if they are currently lacking.

  2. Create Safe Spaces

    • Develop and promote safe spaces for the LGBTQ+ community within your workplace where they can share their experiences and seek support without fear of judgment or discrimination.

  3. Educational Sessions

    • Implement regular training sessions focusing on LGBTQ+ inclusion, the impact of anti-trans rhetoric, and the importance of compassionate care. These sessions should aim to debunk myths and foster a culture of understanding.

  4. Support Networks

    • Foster support networks within your organisations for both employees who identify as LGBTQ+ and allies. Encourage mentorship and peer-support programs.

  5. Advocate for Policy Change

    • Be proactive in advocating for inclusive policies both within the organisation and in broader professional and societal contexts. Use your position to influence positive change.

Hashtags for Social Media 📱

  1. #InclusiveHealthcare

  2. #TransRights

  3. #HRBestPractices

  4. #EquityInAction

  5. #InclusionBites

This podcast episode is a profound resource with actionable insights that can transform workplace inclusivity policies. Embrace the learnings and be a catalyst for positive change in your organisation. 🌈👏

Shorts Video Script

Video Title:
Breaking Down Barriers in Healthcare for Trans People 🏳️‍⚧️ #TransRights #InclusiveHealthcare

Script:

Text on screen: Creating Inclusive Healthcare with Heart 💖

"Ever wondered how we can make healthcare truly inclusive for trans people? Let's talk about some key insights from my latest deep dive.

Text on screen: Accessibility is Key 🏥

First up, accessibility to healthcare for trans individuals of all ages is crucial. Current systems are broken, with waiting lists stretching up to 20 years. Can you imagine the mental and physical toll this takes?

Text on screen: Early Support Matters 🌱

Next, early intervention and support for trans youth can be life-changing. Puberty blockers provide a vital breathing window, allowing young people to explore their gender identity without the irreversible changes of puberty. Misunderstanding and restricting these can lead to damaging outcomes.

Text on screen: Combatting Misconceptions 🛡️

It's alarming how much misinformation exists. The idea that being inclusive somehow hurts others is simply not true. Inclusion means adding support, not taking it away. It’s about making the world a better place for everyone.

Text on screen: Misleading Narratives 🚫

There's this false narrative that educating about trans issues will persuade people to become trans. Reality check—it’s not a choice and nobody would choose this path if it were just for societal pressure. Education leads to understanding, not conversion.

Text on screen: Together, We're Stronger 🤝

Creating safe spaces, offering personalized care, and ensuring proper medical oversight are essential steps. We must support efforts that look at the individual needs with compassion and respect.

Thanks for watching! Remember, together we can make a difference. Stay connected, stay inclusive! See you next time. ✨"

Hashtags:
#TransHealthcare #InclusionMatters #SupportTransYouth #EqualityForAll #HealthcareWithHeart

Glossary of Terms and Phrases

Certainly! Here's a list of specialised terminology and phrases from the episode "Healthcare with a Heart" featuring Joanne Lockwood and Susie Green, along with their implied definitions:

  1. Inclusive Cultures:

    • Definition: Environments where diverse individuals feel valued, respected, and integrated into the group’s dynamics.

  2. Nurturing Belonging:

    • Definition: The practice of creating a supportive atmosphere in which individuals feel accepted and comfortable being themselves.

  3. Trans Health Care:

    • Definition: Medical services specifically tailored to the needs of transgender individuals, encompassing physical, psychological, and social aspects of their health.

  4. Puberty Blockers:

    • Definition: Medications used to delay the onset of puberty in transgender youth, giving them time to explore their gender identity without the added pressures of unwanted physical changes.

  5. Gender Affirming Healthcare:

    • Definition: Medical treatment that supports an individual's gender identity, including hormone therapy, surgeries, and psychological support.

  6. Conversion Practices/Therapy:

    • Definition: Practices aimed at changing an individual's sexual orientation or gender identity to conform to societal norms, often viewed as unethical and harmful.

  7. Cisgender Outcome:

    • Definition: The goal or result of an individual identifying and living as their sex assigned at birth, often used critically in the context of pushing against an individual’s authentic gender identity.

  8. Clinical Trial:

    • Definition: Research studies performed on human participants to evaluate medical, surgical, or behavioural interventions. In the context of the episode, it refers to trials assessing the safety and efficacy of puberty blockers.

  9. Transadjacent:

    • Definition: Individuals who are closely associated with or supportive of transgender people, even if they are not transgender themselves.

  10. Non-binary:

  • Definition: A gender identity that does not fit within the traditional binary of male or female.

  1. Equity in Healthcare:

  • Definition: Ensuring fair access to medical treatment and care across diverse populations, without bias or discrimination.

  1. Championing Inclusion:

  • Definition: Actively promoting and supporting efforts to integrate and give a voice to underrepresented or marginalised groups within various contexts.

  1. Intersectionality:

  • Definition: Understanding how different aspects of a person's identity (e.g., race, gender, sexuality) intersect and impact their experiences with discrimination or privilege.

  1. Societal Transformation:

  • Definition: Significant changes in societal systems, norms, and institutions to create a more inclusive, equitable, and just society.

  1. Transadjacent Family Members:

  • Definition: Family members who are supportive and understanding of a transgender individual within their family unit.

  1. Political Document:

  • Definition: In this context, it refers to a report or paper with recommendations that are driven by political motives rather than purely scientific or medical evidence.

By providing these definitions, the episode helps expand our understanding and promotes inclusive dialogues around transgender healthcare and related societal issues.

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Killer Quote: "Politics has no place in healthcare. No place in healthcare." - Susie Green

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Why Listen:
In this thought-provoking episode of the Inclusion Bites Podcast, titled “Healthcare with a Heart,” Joanne Lockwood, your dedicated host, dives into a profound conversation with Susie Green, the co-founder and co-director of Anne Health. This episode is a beacon for those passionate about creating Positive People Experiences within our healthcare systems, ensuring that inclusivity and compassionate care are at the forefront of societal transformation.

From the outset, Joanne welcomes listeners to an engaging exploration of inclusion, belonging, and societal change. Known for her fearless engagement with bold conversations, Joanne sets the stage for a deep dive into the intricacies of trans healthcare - an area often mired in controversy and misunderstanding.

Susie Green brings a wealth of experience to the table, having been a powerful advocate for trans rights for over two decades. She starts by recounting her personal journey, driven by the need to support her trans daughter, Jackie, at a time when resources and understanding were exceedingly sparse. Susie’s narrative underscores the theme of Culture Change by highlighting how individual experiences can spark significant transformations within larger societal structures.

Listeners are taken on a riveting journey through the early 2000s when the concept of Positive People Experiences in trans healthcare was virtually non-existent. Susie’s recounting of her challenges in finding medical and emotional support for Jackie provides a stark juxtaposition to today’s climate, where awareness, though still fraught with challenges, has markedly improved. Her reflections on these experiences underscore the necessity for constant vigilance and advocacy in driving culture change and ensuring that healthcare remains inclusive and compassionate.

Joanne and Susie delve deeply into current trans healthcare issues, addressing the alarming rhetoric surrounding trans rights today. They poignantly discuss how policies and media narratives are shaping public perception, often to the detriment of trans individuals. Susie's insights into how these societal pressures impact trans youth and their families are both heartbreaking and eye-opening, making a compelling argument for the urgent need for Positive People Experiences in healthcare.

One of the most impactful segments of this episode is Susie’s critique of the CAS report and its implications on trans youth. Her powerful assertion that "Politics has no place in healthcare" encapsulates the episode’s core message: healthcare should be driven by compassion, not political agendas. This sentiment resonates deeply, offering a critical perspective on how policy decisions can harm vulnerable populations.

Joanne and Susie also explore the personal toll of public scrutiny on individuals advocating for trans rights. Susie's candid reflections on her own experiences of public censure and her indomitable spirit exemplify resilience and dedication. This discussion emphasizes the importance of creating safe, supportive environments where Positive People Experiences can flourish.

The episode concludes with an introduction to Anne Health, Susie’s latest venture aimed at providing medically overseen, accessible healthcare for trans individuals. The launch of Anne Health represents a significant stride towards inclusive healthcare, aligning perfectly with the ethos of Positive People Experiences. Susie’s vision for Anne Health is to foster an environment where people can access the care they need without fear of discrimination or bureaucratic hurdles.

Joanne wraps up the episode by reiterating the importance of solidarity, understanding, and continuous advocacy. She invites listeners to engage with the conversation, to reflect on their own biases, and to contribute towards creating a more inclusive world.

This episode is not just an exploration of trans healthcare; it’s a call to action. It embodies the spirit of Culture Change, urging each of us to consider our role in fostering environments where everyone can thrive. Whether you are directly impacted by these issues or are an ally, this episode provides invaluable insights and actionable steps to support Positive People Experiences in all aspects of life.

Closing Summary and Call to Action:
Here’s a recap of the key learning points and actionable insights from this powerful conversation:

  1. The Importance of Personal Experience in Advocacy:

    • Susie Green’s journey began with her own child’s need for support, demonstrating how personal experiences can drive significant societal change.

    • Action: Reflect on your own experiences or those close to you that may inspire advocacy for positive change.

  2. The Evolution of Trans Healthcare:

    • Over the last two decades, there has been significant progress in awareness and support, though challenges remain.

    • Action: Educate yourself on the history and current state of trans healthcare to better understand the ongoing struggles and triumphs.

  3. Impact of Rhetoric and Policies:

    • Negative media narratives and harmful policies have a direct, detrimental impact on trans individuals.

    • Action: Challenge negative rhetoric when you encounter it and support policies that promote equality and inclusivity.

  4. Creating Positive People Experiences:

    • Healthcare and support services must prioritise compassion and inclusivity.

    • Action: Advocate for healthcare providers and systems that offer gender-affirming, compassionate care.

  5. The Power of Resilience:

    • Despite facing public scrutiny and opposition, Susie’s commitment to advocacy remains unwavering.

    • Action: Draw inspiration from figures like Susie Green to stay resilient in your advocacy efforts.

  6. Introduction of Anne Health:

    • Anne Health aims to provide accessible, medically overseen care for trans individuals.

    • Action: Support organisations like Anne Health that are committed to inclusive and compassionate care.

  7. Community and Solidarity:

    • Building a support network is crucial for both trans individuals and their advocates.

    • Action: Foster a community of support and solidarity, actively seeking to include and uplift those who are marginalised.

  8. The Role of Education:

    • Understanding and educating others about trans issues is essential for fostering inclusivity.

    • Action: Participate in or organise educational workshops and discussions to spread awareness and knowledge.

  9. Policy Advocacy:

    • Engage with policymakers to ensure that healthcare policies are inclusive and based on compassion rather than political agendas.

    • Action: Write to your local representatives, join advocacy groups, and use your voice to influence policy changes.

  10. Supporting Trans Youth:

    • Trans youth face unique challenges and require specific support and protection.

    • Action: Volunteer with or donate to organisations that focus on supporting trans youth and their families.

Outro:
Thank you for tuning in to this episode of the Inclusion Bites Podcast. I hope you found our conversation with Susie Green enlightening and inspiring. If you did, please like this video, subscribe to our channel, and share it with anyone who could benefit from these insights. For more information and to join the conversation, visit the SEE Change Happen website at https://seechangehappen.co.uk and listen to more episodes of the Inclusion Bites Podcast at https://seechangehappen.co.uk/inclusion-bites-listen.

Stay curious, stay kind, and stay inclusive - Joanne Lockwood

Root Cause Analyst - Why!

Key Problem Identification

The central problem discussed in Episode 155 of the Inclusion Bites Podcast is the significant barriers faced by trans individuals, especially trans youth, in accessing timely and adequate healthcare. This issue is exacerbated by societal rhetoric, policies, and inadequate support systems.

Root Cause Analysis

  1. Problem: Trans individuals face significant barriers in accessing healthcare.

    • Why? There are extensive waiting lists for NHS gender identity clinics.

    • Why? The demand for services exceeds the available resources and staff.

    • Why? There has been a historical underinvestment and lack of prioritisation for trans healthcare.

    • Why? Societal and governmental bias and misunderstanding towards trans issues impede funding and resource allocation.

    • Why? Deep-seated prejudices and misinformation about trans individuals perpetuate a cycle of neglect and discrimination in policy and societal attitudes.

  2. Problem: Negative societal rhetoric and narrative about trans individuals.

    • Why? Media and influential figures propagate damaging and prejudiced views.

    • Why? These views are often based on misinformation and a lack of understanding about trans issues.

    • Why? Limited engagement and representation of trans voices in media and authoritative platforms.

    • Why? Systemic biases prevent trans individuals from gaining platforms and influence to share their perspectives.

    • Why? Cultural and historical stigmas around gender nonconformity foster resistance to change and inclusivity.

  3. Problem: Policy changes and bans affecting trans healthcare.

    • Why? Political motives override clinical and ethical considerations.

    • Why? Governments respond to populist sentiments and pressures rather than expert advice.

    • Why? The political climate prioritises immediate public approval over minority rights.

    • Why? Elections and political stability are often prioritised over long-term, equitable health policies.

    • Why? Short-term political gains are pursued at the expense of vulnerable minority groups.

Summary of Findings

The root causes of these issues can be traced back to a series of interrelated factors: historical neglect, societal and governmental bias, and systemic misinformation. These factors are compounded by societal prejudices and a lack of representation and understanding of trans issues in mainstream platforms. Additionally, the political landscape often prioritises populist sentiments over the nuanced needs of minority groups.

Potential Solutions

  1. Increase Awareness and Education:

    • Implement Comprehensive Training:
      Initiate widespread educational programs for healthcare providers, educators, and the general public about trans issues and the importance of supportive healthcare.

    • Promote Media Literacy:
      Encourage critical consumption of media and the importance of seeking accurate and diverse sources of information regarding trans individuals.

  2. Policy Advocacy:

    • Lobby for Inclusive Policies:
      Work with policymakers to advocate for inclusive and supportive healthcare policies that prioritise trans individuals' needs.

    • Protect Trans Rights:
      Strengthen legal protections against discrimination and ensure policies are rooted in clinical and ethical considerations, not political expediency.

  3. Healthcare System Reform:

    • Increase Resources and Funding:
      Advocate for increased investment in gender identity clinics and training for healthcare professionals to meet the growing demand.

    • Improve Accessibility:
      Develop streamlined processes to reduce waiting times and ensure timely access to essential healthcare services.

  4. Community Support and Representation:

    • Empower Trans Voices:
      Create platforms and opportunities for trans individuals to share their stories and experiences, helping to combat misinformation and prejudice.

    • Build Support Networks:
      Establish robust support systems and networks for trans individuals and their families to provide emotional, social, and practical support.

  5. Research and Data Collection:

    • Conduct Comprehensive Studies:
      Fund and support research into the needs and outcomes of trans individuals to inform better clinical practices and policies.

    • Monitor and Adapt:
      Continuously monitor the effectiveness of implemented policies and programs, making necessary adaptations based on feedback and data.

By addressing these underlying causes through a multifaceted approach, meaningful progress can be made towards ensuring equitable and compassionate healthcare for trans individuals.

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Episode Carousel

Slide 1:
Provoking Question with Visuals

Text: "What if the world embraced healthcare with a heart for everyone? 💖🏥"

Visuals: A vibrant image of diverse hands forming a heart shape to symbolise inclusive care.


Slide 2:
Introduction to Episode Topic and Guests

Text: "In this episode of Inclusion Bites, Joanne Lockwood welcomes Susie Green, Co-founder of Anne Health, to discuss compassionate healthcare for trans people of all ages."

Visuals: A lively shot of Joanne and Susie engaged in conversation, with the Inclusion Bites podcast logo subtly placed.


Slide 3:
Key Insight from Conversation

Text: "🌈 'Why would anybody choose this? It's really hard. Why would anybody choose this?' - Susie Green reflects on the misconceptions about trans lives."

Visuals: Highlighted quote from Susie with an image of her speaking passionately, overlaid on a soft background of pastel colours.


Slide 4:
Personal Story and Urgency

Text: "💬 'I had to learn quickly because I needed to support my daughter. At 4 years old, she told me that she should have been a girl.' - Susie shares her personal journey."

Visuals: An emotional scene showing a parent holding a child's hand, evoking the importance of familial support.


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Call to Action

Text: "🎧 Don't miss out on this heartfelt episode! Tune in to Inclusion Bites and discover how Anne Health is transforming lives. 👉 Visit: seechangehappen.co.uk/inclusion-bites-listen"

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6 major topics

Healthcare with a Heart: Embracing Inclusion and Compassion

Welcome to another heartfelt conversation on Inclusion Bites, where stories of resilience, love, and transformation come alive. Today, I had the absolute pleasure of engaging with Susie Green, co-founder and co-director of Anne Health. Together, we plunged into the depths of trans healthcare, societal challenges, and heartwarming personal journeys. Sit back and allow me to walk you through our captivating chat.

A Mother's Awakening: Discovering Trans Rights

When I asked Susie what first inspired her to advocate for trans rights, her response was profoundly touching. She shared, "It was having a trans kid. Before that, I knew nothing about trans rights or trans children." Imagine discovering your child's truth at such a young age and realizing you have much to learn. Susie’s journey began when her daughter, at just four years old, expressed that she felt she should have been a girl. This revelation set Susie on a path of discovery and advocacy. Her tireless search for information led her to important resources like Mermaids, a pivotal support organisation for families with transgender children. It's a poignant reminder that our most profound missions often stem from personal connections and love.

The Search for Support in a Pre-Digital World

Navigating the early 2000s as a parent of a trans child was like traversing a barren desert. Information was scarce, and societal understanding was even scarcer. Susie’s journey was marked by frustration and determination. "I found a single paragraph in a book on raising boys," Susie recalled, "that said girly boys were likely to be gay." With no access to Facebook or modern social media, the hunt for support was daunting. When Susie stumbled upon the Mermaids website, it was a lifeline. A realm where she found solace in talking to other parents facing similar challenges. This tale is a stark reminder of the strides we've made in digital accessibility and the power of connected communities.

Battling Society’s Deep-rooted Biases

Fast forward to today, and the landscape remains tumultuous. The current social climate around trans rights is fraught with misconceptions and hostile rhetoric. Susie and I delved into the heart-wrenching prejudices faced by the trans community. She highlighted how current narratives are painting trans individuals, especially trans women, as predators—a baseless and damaging stereotype. "Why would anybody choose this?" she asked rhetorically, emphasizing the harsh reality trans people endure. This topic begs the question: Why do we, as a society, tolerate and perpetuate such unfounded fears and biases?

The Impact of Political Decisions on Trans Youth

Our conversation shifted towards the recent legislative changes affecting trans youth. We discussed the impact of the executive orders in the U.S. and the newly implemented puberty blocker ban in the UK. The situations Susie described were nothing short of dire. With the UK's current ban, she revealed, "There are young people who are not with us anymore because of what is happening with access to care." It's a stark reminder of how political decisions resonate deeply within the lives of vulnerable communities. How can we advocate for policies that genuinely support and protect trans youth?

The Creation of Anne Health: Compassionate Care for All

Susie's unwavering commitment to compassionate healthcare led to the founding of Anne Health. Through this initiative, she aims to fill the gaps left by both the NHS and private providers. Anne Health focuses on providing affordable, medically overseen care tailored to individuals' needs. "We want people to feel comfortable and safe," Susie affirmed. Unlike other providers, Anne Health ensures patients see their doctors regularly and maintain open lines of communication. The establishment of Anne Health is a beacon of hope, representing what dedicated advocacy and innovative thinking can achieve. Could this model be replicated globally to offer inclusive healthcare access?

Resilience Amidst Adversity

Our chat inevitably circled back to the sheer resilience required to navigate public and personal battles for trans rights. Susie and I both shared stories of receiving venomous backlash simply for existing and advocating. Yet, in recounting these experiences, we found laughter and strength. Susie, with her enduring grace, noted, "What people say about me doesn't bother me because it's not true." Our joint reflection emphasized the importance of resilience and solidarity within the LGBTQ+ community and its allies. How can we collectively harness this resilience to drive deeper societal change?


Susie Green's journey and our enriching conversation serve as powerful reminders: inclusion is an ongoing fight, and healthcare must be compassionate and accessible for all. As you reflect on these topics, consider joining us on this journey of change and understanding. Share your thoughts, stories, or even your vision by reaching out to me at jo.lockwood@seechangehappen.co.uk.

Until next time, this is Joanne Lockwood, signing off with a promise to bring you more profound narratives that challenge, inspire, and unite. Together, we can foster a more inclusive world, one conversation at a time. Catch you on the next Inclusion Bites!

TikTok Summary

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Slogans and Image Prompts

Certainly! Here are some memorable slogans, soundbites, and quotes from the episode "Healthcare with a Heart" featuring Joanne Lockwood and Susie Green, perfect for merchandise like cups, mugs, t-shirts, or stickers, along with detailed AI image generation prompts for each.

Slogans, Soundbites, and Quotes:

  1. "Ignite the Spark of Inclusion"

    Prompt:
    Generate an image featuring a diverse group of people standing in a circle holding hands with a fiery spark in the centre, symbolising unity and inclusion. The background should have colourful, warm tones, and the text "Ignite the Spark of Inclusion" should be prominently displayed above the group in bold, modern font.

  2. "Empowering Trans Kids with Care, Resilience, and Love"

    Prompt:
    Create an illustration of a young trans child being embraced by supportive parents. The background should convey a warm, loving atmosphere with elements like a heart or rainbow. Include the text "Empowering Trans Kids with Care, Resilience, and Love" in a gentle, approachable font overlaying the image.

  3. "Hold the Rope"

    Prompt:
    Design an image of people of all genders and ages holding onto a thick, sturdy rope together. The rope symbolises support and strength. The background can be a simple, gradient backdrop with soothing tones. Place the text "Hold the Rope" in a bold, determined font as a header above the image.

  4. "Creating a World Where Everyone Thrives"

    Prompt:
    Illustrate an inclusive community with people of different ethnicities, ages, and genders interacting harmoniously. The environment should be a vibrant cityscape or park. Add the text "Creating a World Where Everyone Thrives" using a dynamic, uplifting font across the top.

  5. "Healthcare with a Heart"

    Prompt:
    Craft an image depicting a healthcare professional warmly interacting with a young trans patient. The setting can be a cosy, welcoming clinic. The central element should be a heart symbol to represent compassion. The text "Healthcare with a Heart" should be in a compassionate, elegant font placed prominently around the illustration.

  6. "Fostering a More Inclusive World, One Episode at a Time"

    Prompt:
    Design an image of a microphone emitting waves or soundwaves transforming into colourful butterflies, symbolising the impact of inclusive conversations spreading positivity. The background should have a podcast studio feel. The text "Fostering a More Inclusive World, One Episode at a Time" should be in a clear, contemporary font.

Hashtags:

  1. #IgniteInclusion

  2. #EmpowerTransKids

  3. #HoldTheRope

  4. #WorldWhereAllThrive

  5. #HealthcareWithHeart

  6. #InclusionJourney

These slogans and prompts are crafted to be both visually appealing and meaningful, capturing the essence of the conversation in the episode while resonating with a broader audience.

Inclusion Bites Spotlight

In this month's feature for our "Inclusion Bites Spotlight" newsletter, we are thrilled to introduce Susie Green, guest of the latest episode, "Healthcare with a Heart," on The Inclusion Bites Podcast. Susie, cofounder and co-director of Anne Health, brings a compelling narrative rooted in unparalleled dedication to compassionate, accessible healthcare for trans individuals of all ages.

Susie’s journey into trans healthcare advocacy began personally—with her own child's experience—and has since evolved into a mission to empower trans youth and their families with resilience and love. During the podcast, she shares poignant stories and reflections, from her daughter Jackie's early childhood declaration of gender identity to the vital role organisations like Mermaids played in navigating those early years.

The episode dives deep into the troubling current landscape of trans healthcare, highlighting the alarming rise in anti-trans rhetoric. Susie sheds light on the complexities faced by trans individuals today, emphasising the absurdities and dangers inherent in today's laws and societal attitudes. She particularly takes aim at the unfounded fears and prejudices surrounding trans people, painting a powerful contrast between these myths and the actual lived experiences of those she advocates for.

Susie's initiative, Anne Health, represents a beacon of hope. Beyond merely providing medical interventions, Anne Health prioritises personalised, ethically sound, and empathetic care. The organisation’s commitment to supporting clients with both medical and emotional needs is a testament to their holistic approach to healthcare.

Throughout the episode, Susie underscores the importance of compassionate, nuanced care that transcends mere medical provision. Her insights provoke thought and call for a collective effort to challenge prejudices, advocate for proper healthcare reforms, and ultimately contribute to a more inclusive society.

Join us in exploring this episode of Inclusion Bites, where Susie Green’s heartfelt dialogue not only inspires but also equips us with actionable insights to foster a more inclusive world. Listen in at https://seechangehappen.co.uk/inclusion-bites-listen and become part of the movement driving real change in trans healthcare. Let's stand together, hold the rope, and champion inclusion, one episode at a time.

#InclusionBites #PositivePeopleExperiences

YouTube Description

Challenging the Norms in Trans Healthcare | Inclusive Bites Podcast Ep. 155

Ever wonder why society struggles to accept and support trans individuals authentically? 🔍 In this enlightening episode of Inclusion Bites, host Joanne Lockwood dives deep into the labyrinth of trans healthcare with special guest, Susie Green. 💬 Together, they unravel the complex barriers, political rhetoric, and misinformation that plague trans youth and adults alike.

Summary:
Join us as we explore the foundations and motivations behind Anne Health, a trailblazing initiative dedicated to providing compassionate, accessible healthcare for trans individuals of all ages. Susie Green, a trans advocate and co-founder of Anne Health, shares her personal journey, the struggles faced by trans youth, and her mission to dismantle the stigma and barriers in healthcare.

Closing Takeaways and Actions:
This episode challenges you to rethink societal biases and misconceptions surrounding trans issues. 💡 Walk away with actionable insights on how inclusive healthcare can change lives:

  • Understand the real impacts of political decisions on trans healthcare access.

  • Learn about the ethical concerns in medical trials and healthcare provision.

  • Discover the resilience of the trans community in the face of systemic challenges.

Thoughts to Ponder:
How will you act differently to support inclusion in healthcare? 🤔 What steps can we take together to create a more accepting society?

#InclusionBites #TransHealthcare #HealthcareForAll #InclusiveSociety #TransRights #SupportTransYouth #EndDiscrimination #DiversityAndInclusion #CompassionateCare #TransVisibility

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10 Question Quiz

Healthcare with a Heart Quiz

Multiple Choice Questions

  1. What is the purpose of Inclusion Bites Podcast as described by Joanne Lockwood?

    • A) To promote financial literacy

    • B) To create an inclusive society where everyone thrives

    • C) To discuss technological advancements

    • D) To focus on climate change issues

  2. Who is the guest on Episode 155 titled "Healthcare with a Heart"?

    • A) Helen Webberly

    • B) Lizzie Green

    • C) Susie Green

    • D) Norman Spack

  3. What is Susie Green's superpower as she describes it?

    • A) Analytical thinking

    • B) Empowering trans kids and their families with care, resilience, and love

    • C) Financial management

    • D) Public speaking

  4. When did Joanne Lockwood first meet Susie Green in person?

    • A) At a healthcare conference last month

    • B) Trans Day of Visibility event back in November

    • C) Trans Day of Remembrance last year

    • D) At a charity event two years ago

  5. How did Susie first get introduced to the issue of trans rights?

    • A) Through a university course

    • B) By working at a healthcare centre

    • C) By having a trans child

    • D) Through a friend who is trans

  6. Which organisation did Susie Green find online that provided her initial support?

    • A) GLAAD

    • B) Stonewall

    • C) Mermaids

    • D) Trans Equality

  7. Susie Green mentions a specific doctor she took her daughter to. Who is this doctor?

    • A) Helen Webberly

    • B) Norman Spack

    • C) David Locke

    • D) Wes Streeting

  8. What was Susie Green’s response to people offering hate and negative comments towards her work?

    • A) She strives to ignore it because she knows it’s untrue

    • B) She contests each comment personally

    • C) She frequently takes legal action

    • D) She has stopped her work because of it

  9. According to Joanne Lockwood, what is the national government's stance on puberty blockers as discussed in the podcast?

    • A) They are implementing a permanent ban on puberty blockers for young people

    • B) They encourage the use of puberty blockers

    • C) They are neutral and leave it to individual choice

    • D) They provide full funding for puberty blockers

  10. What is the name of the non-profit healthcare organisation co-founded by Susie Green?

    • A) Mermaids

    • B) Equality Health

    • C) Gender GP

    • D) Anne Health

Answer Key and Rationale

  1. B) To create an inclusive society where everyone thrives

    • Rationale: Joanne Lockwood mentions in the introduction that the podcast is about exploring inclusion, belonging, and societal transformation.

  2. C) Susie Green

    • Rationale: Joanne Lockwood introduces Susie Green as the guest in Episode 155.

  3. B) Empowering trans kids and their families with care, resilience, and love

    • Rationale: This is directly mentioned by Joanne Lockwood when she introduces Susie Green.

  4. B) Trans Day of Visibility event back in November

    • Rationale: As per Jo's introduction, they met at the Trans Day of Visibility event in November.

  5. C) By having a trans child

    • Rationale: Susie Green mentions she was inspired by having a trans child which led her to learn and advocate for trans rights.

  6. C) Mermaids

    • Rationale: Susie found Mermaids online when her daughter was 6 years old.

  7. B) Norman Spack

    • Rationale: Susie Green mentions taking her daughter to Norman Spack at Boston Children's Hospital.

  8. A) She strives to ignore it because she knows it’s untrue

    • Rationale: Susie states that she doesn't worry about negative comments because they are not true and often finds them comical.

  9. A) They are implementing a permanent ban on puberty blockers for young people

    • Rationale: Joanne Lockwood discusses the permanent ban being put in place by Wes Streeting on puberty blockers for young people.

  10. D) Anne Health

    • Rationale: Susie Green is introduced as the co-founder and co-director of Anne Health.

Summary Paragraph

In Episode 155 titled "Healthcare with a Heart" of the Inclusion Bites Podcast, host Joanne Lockwood discusses the journey and insights of Susie Green, co-founder of Anne Health. The podcast’s mission is to create an inclusive society where everyone thrives. Susie describes her superpower as empowering trans kids and their families with care, resilience, and love. Joanne and Susie first met at the Trans Day of Visibility event in November. Susie was inspired to advocate for trans rights due to her experience of having a trans child. Initially supported by Mermaids, an organisation she found online, Susie took her daughter to Dr Norman Spack at Boston Children’s Hospital. Despite facing significant online abuse, Susie maintains that she isn't fazed by it as the negativity isn't rooted in truth. The podcast also highlights the current governmental stance on puberty blockers, with mentions of a permanent ban being implemented. Susie’s organisation, Anne Health, continues to provide vital, compassionate healthcare to trans people of all ages, striving to offer accessible and supportive options in a challenging landscape.

Rhyme Scheme and Rhythm Podcast Poetry

Healthcare with a Heart

In a world where hearts do trail,
A mother's love does now unveil.
Her tale of strength, a beacon bright,
Guiding those in darkest night.

Her daughter’s plea at tender four,
"God's mistake, I should be more."
A journey braved through doubters’ din,
A fight for rights that must begin.

In days before the world did see,
Equality in true degree.
A search for knowledge, sparse, confined,
Yet found the path she sought to find.

A mother's love, a child’s pure plea,
Their bond became the strength to be.
In shadowed lands with little light,
They fought together for what's right.

Through trials born of sheer disdain,
They stood as one amidst the pain.
A healthcare dream, compassionate,
So no one lived a life of fret.

Two hearts ignited, dared to start,
A vision known as Anne Health's part.
Where care and kindness intertwine,
For all who've waited on the line.

Through hate and venom hurled their way,
They built a brighter, fairer day.
With purpose clear, with love and might,
They gave the world a hopeful sight.

For all who seek to live their truth,
Without the shadows of the youth.
Let empathy and care abound,
In every heart, in every town.

So lift the veil, let voices sing,
Of love and care through echoing.
A call to all to stand and share,
To build a world that’s just and fair.

With thanks to Susie Green for a fascinating podcast episode.


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Key Learnings

Key Learning and Takeaway:
The central takeaway from "Healthcare with a Heart" is the critical importance of accessible, compassionate healthcare for trans individuals of all ages. Susie Green, driven by her personal experience with her trans daughter, emphasises the dire need for inclusive and supportive medical services. The episode highlights the struggles faced by trans people and their families in accessing appropriate healthcare due to societal biases and inadequate medical infrastructure. Anne Health, co-founded by Susie, aims to bridge this gap, providing a humane, legally sound alternative to existing services, whilst advocating for the rights and dignity of trans individuals.

Blurbs:

Point #1: The Catalyst for Change
Susie Green's journey into trans healthcare advocacy was sparked by her personal experience. Her daughter's early declaration of her gender identity at four years old led Susie to realise the severe lack of resources and support for trans children and their families, driving her to become a steadfast advocate.

Point #2: Navigating a Precarious Landscape
The episode underscores the precarious state of trans healthcare, especially in the UK and the US. With recent political actions undermining the accessibility and legitimacy of gender-affirming treatments, trans individuals face heightened risks and barriers. Susie and Joanne discuss the unethical nature of some legislative measures that deepen these crises.

Point #3: The Importance of Personalised Care
Anne Health stands out by providing personalised, medically overseen care tailored to each individual's needs. Susie points out that unlike other services reliant on automated systems, Anne Health ensures patients interact with real healthcare professionals, which is crucial for providing empathetic and effective care.

Point #4: Embracing Legal and Ethical Standards
Susie highlights Anne Health's commitment to legal and ethical standards. By securing expert legal advice to ensure their practices are within the bounds of the law, Anne Health aims to provide a robust and reliable service that can withstand external scrutiny and opposition. This approach fosters trust and safety within the trans community.

Book Outline

Book Outline: "Healthcare with a Heart"


Chapter 1: The Genesis of Advocacy

  • Introduction to the Journey:

    • Context and Background: An overview of the genesis of advocating for trans health care, beginning with a personal story of parenting a trans child.

    • First Realisations: Discovering the reality of having a trans child and the immediate need for education and understanding.

  • Initial Challenges and Discovery:

    • Lack of Knowledge: Confronting the initial lack of knowledge about trans issues.

    • Support Systems: Finding the first paragraph about 'girly boys' in a book and the inadequacy of available information.

    • First Steps: Contacting Mermaids and the significant relief found in connecting with someone who understood.

Notable Quote: "When my daughter told me that God had made a mistake and she should have been a girl at 4 years old, I had to learn quickly."


Chapter 2: The Early Years: Navigating a New Reality

  • Early Support and Networking:

    • Finding Mermaids: Discovering and joining Mermaids and other parent groups.

    • Shared Experience: The emotional importance of speaking to other families and parents of trans kids.

  • Healthcare and Institutional Response:

    • Medical Challenges: Engagements with GPs and the initial dismissals of the child's identity.

    • Tavistock Clinic: Learning about and engaging with the established gender identity services.

Notable Quote: "I spent a lot of time telling her it was okay to be a boy and like girl things, and she just kept telling me, 'No, I am a girl.'"


Chapter 3: Societal and Political Landscape

  • Historical Context:

    • Pre-Legislation Era: The 1990s and early 2000s were marked by a lack of legal and societal support for trans issues.

    • Cultural Attitudes: Facing societal misconceptions and systemic ignorance.

  • Personal Advocacy:

    • Challenging the Status Quo: Beginning to challenge and question existing medical and societal responses.

    • Establishing Networks: The role of internet forums and the shift from isolation to community.

Notable Quote: "You speak to the supportive parent who had a then 17-year-old trans daughter, and the relief was immense."


Chapter 4: Rising Against Rhetoric

  • Current Climate:

    • Media and Public Opinion: Addressing the modern-day narrative around trans people, the negative media rhetoric, and its impact.

    • Combatting Misinformation: Strategies for dispelling myths and misinformation about trans healthcare and rights.

  • Emotional Labour:

    • Public Scrutiny: Personal experiences of being in the public eye and the resilience required.

    • Support Systems: The importance of finding allies and support networks.

Notable Quote: "People are being made to feel ashamed of who they are, which is horrible and really disturbing."


Chapter 5: The Battle for Healthcare Access

  • Systemic Challenges:

    • Inadequate Provision: Reflecting on the inadequacies of the NHS and the barriers in accessing appropriate care.

    • Private Healthcare Dilemmas: Delving into the complexities and ethical issues surrounding private healthcare for trans people.

  • Innovative Solutions:

    • Creating Alternatives: The conception and foundation of Anne Health.

    • Providing Compassionate Care: Ensuring accessible and compassionate healthcare for trans individuals of all ages, highlighting the key principles behind the service.

Notable Quote: "Anne Health was born out of a glaring need for compassionate, accessible healthcare for trans individuals."


Chapter 6: Legal and Ethical Considerations

  • Navigating Legalities:

    • Understanding the legal aspects of providing trans healthcare and the importance of adhering to ethical guidelines.

    • Expert Consultation: Insights from working with legal experts to ensure the robustness and legality of new healthcare initiatives.

  • Protecting Rights:

    • Fighting for Human Rights: Addressing the ethical and human rights implications of trans healthcare and systemic barriers.

    • Advocacy and Legal Defence: Examples of defending the rights of trans individuals through legal means.

Notable Quote: "Politics has no place in healthcare, and the manipulation of healthcare policies for political gain is unethical."


Chapter 7: Towards a More Inclusive Future

  • Hope and Progress:

    • Future Vision: Envisioning a future where trans healthcare and rights are fully acknowledged and respected.

    • Building Alliances: The role of allies and the importance of continuous advocacy and support.

  • Empowering Communities:

    • Community Support: Strategies for fostering community resilience and support.

    • Call to Action: Encouraging readers to get involved and support trans rights and healthcare initiatives.

Notable Quote: "We need to keep hoping, supporting each other, and fighting for the right things."


Conclusion: Sustaining the Fight for Inclusion

  • Reflective Summary:

    • Summarising the journey from initial personal challenges to broader advocacy and systemic change.

    • Emphasising the importance of ongoing support and resilience.

  • Future Call to Action:

    • Encouraging continuous engagement, education, and advocacy for trans rights and healthcare.

    • Providing practical steps and resources for readers to get involved and make a difference.

Notable Quote: "Hold the rope. Don't need to pull anybody over. Don't need to win. Just hold the rope, and the world will keep turning, and things will get better."


Title Suggestions:

  1. "Healthcare with a Heart: Championing Trans Rights and Inclusion"

  2. "Empowering through Healthcare: A Journey of Trans Advocacy"

  3. "Breaking Barriers: The Quest for Compassionate Trans Healthcare"

Chapter Summaries:

  1. The Genesis of Advocacy: Introduction to the journey of advocating for trans healthcare through personal experiences.

  2. The Early Years: Navigating a New Reality: Early discoveries, support systems, and initial challenges with healthcare and societal acceptance.

  3. Societal and Political Landscape: Historical context and personal advocacy in a pre-legislation era.

  4. Rising Against Rhetoric: Addressing the modern-day narrative and public misconceptions about trans people.

  5. The Battle for Healthcare Access: Systemic barriers in healthcare and innovative solutions for compassionate access.

  6. Legal and Ethical Considerations: Navigating legal and ethical complexities in trans healthcare advocacy.

  7. Towards a More Inclusive Future: Envisioning and striving for a future where trans rights and healthcare are fully respected.

Final Thoughts:
This book should be a beacon of hope, reflecting the resilience and strength of the trans community and their allies, while providing practical insights and actionable steps for readers to contribute to a more inclusive society.

Maxims to live by…
  1. Ignite Inclusion: Seek to foster an environment where everyone feels valued and understood, regardless of their identity.

  2. Champion Vulnerable Communities: Actively support and advocate for minority groups, especially those who are marginalized or misunderstood.

  3. Practice Compassionate Care: Approach healthcare and support with empathy, ensuring everyone receives the care they need with dignity and respect.

  4. Empower Through Knowledge: Educate yourself about trans rights and issues to better support and advocate for transgender individuals.

  5. Challenge the Status Quo: Be willing to question and disrupt societal norms that perpetuate discrimination and exclusion.

  6. Promote Authenticity: Encourage and support people in living their true selves, free from societal pressures or misconceptions.

  7. Stay Resilient: Understand that the journey toward inclusion and acceptance can be challenging, but maintaining resilience is crucial.

  8. Combat Misinformation: Actively work against false narratives and stereotypes about marginalized groups, aiming to spread accurate and positive representations.

  9. Value Diversity in Healthcare: Recognize and address the unique healthcare needs of diverse communities, ensuring accessibility and personalized care.

  10. Advocate for Ethical Practices: Always consider the ethical implications of healthcare and medical treatments, particularly when it involves vulnerable populations.

  11. Support Mental Health: Acknowledge the mental health challenges faced by marginalized communities and advocate for better support systems.

  12. Stand in Solidarity: Be a visible ally to marginalized groups, showing unwavering support in their fight for rights and recognition.

  13. Listen Actively: Prioritize listening to the experiences and needs of the people within marginalized communities, ensuring their voices are heard and considered.

  14. Foster Safe Spaces: Create environments where individuals feel safe to express themselves without fear of judgment or harm.

  15. Promote Inclusive Legislation: Advocate for policies and laws that protect and support the rights of all individuals, particularly those from marginalized communities.

  16. Encourage Open Conversations: Engage in open, honest conversations about inclusion and diversity, encouraging others to participate and learn.

  17. Celebrate Progress: Acknowledge and celebrate the milestones and successes in the journey toward a more inclusive society.

  18. Embrace Continuous Learning: Stay committed to learning and growing in your understanding of inclusion and diversity issues.

  19. Lead by Example: Show others the importance of inclusion by embodying these principles in your actions and interactions.

  20. Uplift Others: Use your platform and privileges to uplift the voices and stories of marginalized individuals and communities.

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Healthcare with a Heart | Inclusion Bites Podcast Episode 155

Join host Joanne Lockwood as she dives into a heartfelt and essential discussion with Susie Green, co-founder and co-director of Anne Health, in this episode of Inclusion Bites titled “Healthcare with a Heart.” Susie opens up about her journey providing compassionate, accessible healthcare for trans individuals and the crucial support they offer to families and young people. The episode covers the challenges faced by the trans community, political impacts on healthcare access, and how Anne Health is making a difference.

🔍 Key Takeaways:

  • Susie Green’s Journey: Discover what inspired Susie to dedicate her life to empowering trans kids and their families.

  • Challenges in Healthcare: Understand the significant obstacles trans individuals face in accessing healthcare.

  • Political Impacts: Learn about the influence of political decisions on trans healthcare, both in the UK and the US.

  • Anne Health’s Vision: Explore how Anne Health is providing safe, legal, and compassionate care for the trans community.

⏰ Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction by Joanne Lockwood
01:04 - Susie Green’s Introduction and Background
02:15 - Inspiration Behind Susie’s Work in Trans Healthcare
05:07 - Early Challenges and Lack of Information
08:00 - The Narrative Around Trans Rights and Healthcare
11:06 - Media Influence and Public Perception
14:30 - The Role of Allies and Advocacy
18:15 - Challenges in the Public Eye and Online Harassment
22:00 - Political Climate and Its Impact on Trans Healthcare
27:19 - New Healthcare Regulations and Their Consequences
33:05 - Susie Green’s Perspective on Current Issues
39:50 - The Vision and Mission of Anne Health
45:08 - Addressing Legal and Ethical Considerations
51:55 - Concluding Thoughts and Future Hopes

✨ Detailed Description:
In episode 155 of Inclusion Bites, titled "Healthcare with a Heart," Joanne Lockwood sits down with Susie Green, the co-founder and co-director of Anne Health, to discuss the pivotal role of compassionate and accessible healthcare for trans individuals. Susie shares her deeply personal journey, starting from recognizing her own child's need for support to becoming a leading advocate and healthcare provider for trans people of all ages.

**Challenges in Trans Healthcare: The conversation sheds light on the critical gaps and challenges in the current healthcare system, particularly for trans youth. These include long waiting times for gender identity clinics, the lack of informed support from GPs, and the negative influence of political rhetoric, which has led to a hostile environment for trans individuals seeking care.

**Political Climate & Media Influence: Joanne and Susie delve into the damaging effects of negative media representation and political decisions, such as the ban on puberty blockers, which have exacerbated the difficulties for trans individuals. Susie highlights the ethical concerns regarding these policies and their real-life consequences on the mental and physical health of trans youth.

**Anne Health’s Mission: This episode also focuses on how Anne Health is working to combat these challenges by providing a reliable, ethical, and supportive healthcare service. Susie explains their holistic approach, ensuring each patient has access to personalized care and can speak to real healthcare professionals, not just AI systems.

💬 Call to Action:
If you found this discussion enlightening, subscribe to our channel for more insightful conversations on inclusion and healthcare. Share your thoughts and experiences in the comments below—we'd love to hear from you! For more resources, visit https://seechangehappen.co.uk/inclusion-bites-listen. Don't forget to hit the like button and share this video with friends and colleagues who care about inclusive healthcare.

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#InclusionBites #TransHealthcare #HealthcareWithAHeart #SusieGreen #JoanneLockwood #LGBTQ #AnneHealth #Inclusion #CompassionateCare #TransRights #HealthcareAccess

Thank you for being a part of our journey to create a more inclusive world, one episode at a time.

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Compassionate Healthcare: A Heartfelt Conversation on Trans Inclusion

Have you ever found yourself grappling with the complexities of fostering truly inclusive environments, particularly when it comes to healthcare? It's a challenge that many of us in the realm of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) navigate constantly. How do we ensure that everyone not only belongs but thrives? This week on the Inclusion Bites Podcast, I had the profound pleasure of speaking with Susie Green, a stalwart advocate for trans rights and co-founder of Anne Health, who's dedicated her career to ensuring compassionate healthcare for trans individuals.


Healthcare with a Heart: Episode 155

In our latest episode, aptly titled "Healthcare with a Heart," Susie and I delved deep into the intricate tapestry of trans healthcare, sharing powerful narratives and challenging the status quo. Our discussion was timely and impactful, especially for HR professionals, D&I leaders, Talent and Recruitment heads, and Organisational and Learning and Development leads. We addressed the pressing need for accessible and compassionate healthcare for trans individuals, highlighting how critical it is to integrate inclusive practices within our healthcare systems.

Susie bravely shared her personal journey, ignited by her experience raising a trans daughter. Her story underscores the realities faced by many families and the urgent need for supportive healthcare mechanisms dedicated to trans youth and adults.


Key Insights from Our Discussion

Here are some actionable takeaways from our conversation that can guide you in creating more inclusive and equitable environments in your professional roles:

  1. Empowering Through Education
    Susie highlighted the pivotal role of education in demystifying trans identities. For healthcare providers, HR professionals, and D&I leaders, investing in comprehensive training programmes that educate staff on trans issues is crucial. This fosters a more understanding and supportive environment.

  2. Policy and Practice Alignment
    Policies must reflect an organisation’s commitment to inclusion. This means integrating trans-inclusive practices into your healthcare policies and ensuring all staff are aware and supportive of these measures. Clear, supportive guidelines can make a world of difference.

  3. Accessible Healthcare
    The conversation underscored the importance of making healthcare accessible to all, irrespective of their gender identity. Implement systems that provide safe, legal, and affordable healthcare options for trans individuals. Inclusivity in healthcare isn't just about providing services; it's about making those services accessible.

  4. Support Networks and Mentoring
    Establishing support networks for trans individuals within your organisation can provide much-needed solidarity. Create mentorship programmes that pair experienced individuals with those navigating their gender identity journey.

  5. Flexible and Personalised Care
    Adopt a flexible approach to healthcare that recognises the unique needs of each individual. As Susie mentioned, Anne Health ensures that every trans person gets personalised care, seeing their doctors regularly and receiving tailored support that respects their specific circumstances.


A Sneak Peek of Our Heartfelt Conversation

Want a glimpse into the episode? Watch this one-minute audiogram for some of the most heartfelt moments from my conversation with Susie. Her insights are bound to resonate deeply and inspire meaningful change in how we approach trans healthcare. Watch the audiogram here.


Don’t Miss the Full Episode!

For an enriching discussion that delves further into the nuances of trans healthcare and provides even more valuable insights, listen to the full episode now. Tune in here and join us in driving change towards more inclusive and compassionate healthcare systems.


Reflect and Implement

Before you go, consider this: How can you, in your unique role, drive compassionate inclusivity in your organisation? Reflect on the stories and strategies shared in this episode and think about the incremental steps you can take today to build a healthcare environment where everyone feels seen, heard, and valued.

Let’s work together to make inclusivity a lived reality, especially in healthcare.


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I’d love to hear your thoughts on how inclusive healthcare can transform lives. Feel free to reach out if you’d like to discuss how I can support your organisation’s speaking, training, and inclusion needs.


Together, let’s create healthcare systems where everyone is treated with the dignity and respect they deserve.

What step will you take today to nurture an inclusive culture in healthcare?

Until next time,

Joanne Lockwood
Host of the Inclusion Bites Podcast
The Inclusive Culture Expert at SEE Change Happen


Let’s forge ahead, making inclusion an actionable reality, one episode at a time.

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