DTC POD #229 - Rob Willey: The CMO's Guide To Business Transformation

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Rob Willey shares strategies for business transformation in competitive industries.

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In today's episode, we delve into the journey of Rob Willey, the CMO of Cherbundi, as he shares the challenges and solutions for business transformation in a competitive industry. We dig into the strategies, wins, and insights gleaned from his experiences. During this episode, we'll cover: - How executive hires play a pivotal role in identifying growth opportunities in business. - The importance of startups achieving quick wins to showcase impact and gain traction. - How understanding cultural conversations and consumer behaviors guide business success. - The process of overcoming the struggle of competing against industry titans and solidifying a unique position. - Strategies used by Cherbundi, like implementing a robust email program and optimizing Amazon presence, to improve customer retention and increase sales.

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1. Cherry Bundy's business transformation strategies. 2. Importance of quick wins for startups. 3. Challenges of competing with industry giants. 4. Strategies for customer retention and growth. 5. Optimizing revenue from Amazon sales. 6. Overcoming COVID-19 sports industry challenges. 7. Role of team chemistry in decision-making.

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Executive hires, growing business, Share of Bundy, quick wins, startups, nutrition industry, Cherry Bundy, synthetic science, hydration products, cultural conversation, consumer behaviors, social conversation, D to C business, website design, email program, Amazon business, sales boost, sports team, pro shop, COVID-19 challenges, natural recovery, tart cherries, sleep improvement, inflammation reduction, Rob Willey, marketing strategy, ideal customer profile, status quo, Gatorade, Pit Crew influencer program

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Rob Willey 00:07:27 00:07:30

"Perception of Marketing: Marketing is the tax you pay for being unremarkable."

Rob Willey 00:08:20 00:08:49

"Leadership Philosophy: And usually the goal is to get all of that noise to be as quiet as possible, so you then can say, okay, but what's right? And finding what's wrong, you usually find something that's right too. And so then you sort of shift to say, okay, now that I've got some of the wrong to be less expensive or less loud or less problematic, I can focus on the right things, because those are the things we now need to grow. And those are the things that take longer. Those are the things that are harder, and those are the things that you generally want to use as your strengths."

Rob Willey 00:19:29 00:19:49

"Understanding Startup Founders: They're not good at everything. In fact, they may not be good at very many things, but they're really good at something. And my job, and I think executives jobs as we start to come into companies to help this growth stage is to identify what that genius is."

Rob Willey 00:21:09 00:21:24

"Approach to Executive Leadership: And my skill set is that initial diagnosis and a lot of fixing and certainly a ton of growing but it's a hands on approach and that's the way know my style works."

"Business Strategy Insights: Because everyone knows Amazon is an Ops game as much as it is in a marketing game."

"Challenges in Direct-to-Consumer Model: D to C had all sorts of challenges with unit economics, which every D to C company, big or small, seems to have around shipping small parcels around the like."

Rob Willey 00:21:58 00:22:24

"Startup Success Strategy: I think every executive needs to understand that you need some quick wins. Startups aren't patient, investors aren't patient. So not only do you have to identify but you have to correct and you got to be able to point to some pretty quick, small, even wins to showcase that like okay impact is being seen and felt."

Rob Willey 00:43:17 00:43:31

"Building Successful Marketplaces: You have to go out and recruit high quality supply, all while building an app that can match you with a consumer who has an expectation around demand. So you have to drive demand."

Rob Willey 00:50:00 00:50:18

"The Future of Sustainability: One of their thesis is the future is all natural, whether that be sustainable fashion or all natural recovery or a variety of products certified organic, that they believe that that is what consumers eventually want."

Rob Willey 00:51:06 00:51:33

"Startup Determination Against Industry Titans: Every good startup, I believe that's fighting these titans of industry, I believe, and this is my own personal bias and people will tell me like Pepsi, that I'm wrong, but that a chart and a graph isn't going to tell you what you should do. If it did, Pepsi already did it, right? They have thousands more analysts than we do with tens of millions of dollars more."

Rob Willey 00:52:04 00:52:18

"Emerging Business Strategies: So we got to think a little different about how to make operating decisions and that's the sort of Ying and the yang of the investment in the operating team model that really works well when you have good really sort of like collaboration between the teams."

Rob Willey 00:53:29 00:53:46

"Importance of Team Building: Don't sleep on the people. Like chemistry, culture matters, and especially when you're making hard decisions in very fast moving categories, fighting industry titans, like, you need everyone, every brain in the game."

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02:14 Tart cherries: nature's secret weapon for recovery.

07:09 CMO turnover happens when marketing is unremarkable.

09:12 Executive hat: understanding business, market, diligence. Identify strengths, leverage health and fitness trend.

11:22 UI wrong, looked like brochure site. Needed real storefront.

17:35 Importance of executive hire for growing businesses.

21:34 Company gave lifeline, quick wins, strategy against giants.

23:39 Stabilize, legitimize, compete, channels, fight, natural, synthetic.

28:18 Know your consumer, battle the status quo.

29:46 Culture-first approach in identifying consumer overlap. Emulating industry titans with sponsorships and TV deals.

35:27 Paid social is a wrong strategy. Improved with user content and grew on Amazon.

37:24 Understanding startup tactics and opportunities for growth.

41:58 TaskRabbit improved services quality; marketplace success relies on quality supply.

45:25 Building Marketplaces requires balancing customer experience.

46:21 Understanding, leveraging, and optimizing for success in different businesses.

52:54 Team building and culture matter for startups.

54:03 Operating partners and investing partners align, boosting efficiency.

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Primary Topic: Understanding the Business and Role at Cherbundi - The importance of executive hires in providing fresh perspectives and identifying opportunities in a growing business - The importance of complementing the genius of founders as an executive - Overview of Cherbundi, an all-natural sports nutrition company that uses tart cherries as their primary ingredient - Rob Willey's role and mission as the CMO of Cherbundi Primary Topic: Challenges and Transformations at Cherbundi - The challenges encountered by startups in competing against larger companies in the nutrition industry - Changes Cherbundi implemented, like email programs to improve retention and the sales portal "pro shop" to streamline processes - The difficulties Cherbundi faced due to COVID-19 and the absence of sports activities - Rob Willey's approach to diagnosing what was wrong with the brand and strategizing ways to make Cherbundi more remarkable Primary Topic: Distinguishing Strategies and Techniques for Growth - The necessity of understanding the cultural conversation and changing consumer behaviors - The failed paid social campaign due to high costs and low conversion rates - The effective strategies - allocation of funds for Amazon advertising, and understanding the social conversation to differentiate from larger companies - The limitations of startup funding and the importance of developing relationships and leveraging investments in marketing - The role of the Pit Crew influencer program in educating consumers Primary Topic: Rob Willey's Experience at TaskRabbit and subsequent role at Emil - The marketing challenges faced by TaskRabbit and the strategies used to improve quality and retention - TaskRabbit's acquisition by Ikea and similar marketing challenges in the services industry - Rob's current role as an operating partner at Emil and the collaborative environment between the operating and investment teams Primary Topic: General Business Wisdom from Rob Willey - The importance of team chemistry and culture in making successful decisions - The inadequacy of data and charts for making significant operating decisions in competitive industries - The difference between marketing strategies of startups vs big brands, and the opportunities this difference creates Primary Topic: Closing Statement by Host - Acknowledging Rob's success and wisdom offered in the field of marketing - Congratulating Cherbundi on their growth

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"Hey everyone, on our latest DTC POD episode, we had an insightful chat with Rob Willey, the CMO of Cherry Bundy, who talked about how he successfully transformed their business. We delved into the significance of understanding your founder’s genius, the power of quick wins for startups, as well as the struggle to compete in a large industry. Rob shared his winning strategies of latching onto cultural conversations and leveraging Amazon for business boosts. We even touched on dealing with COVID-19 challenges, and driving change despite the resistance. Tune in if you're game for learning valuable insights on business transformation through the lens of a seasoned CMO!"

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Subject: DTC POD's Epic Episode Talk with Rob Willey Is Out! Dive In! 👏 Hey DTC POD Devotees, We're excited to bring you our latest episode: #229 - Rob Willey: The CMO's Guide To Business Transformation. 💼👨‍💼 Do you want to know the secret ingredients that make a modern business succeed and gain insights straight from an industry juggernaut? Then you don't want to miss this episode! 🎙🎯 Here are five key takeaways you will learn: 1. Real Insights on How Executive Hires Impact Business Growth 📈 2. The Importance of Going for Quick Wins and Impact in Startups 🚀 3. Understanding and Leveraging Cultural Conversations in the Business Landscape 🗣 4. The Key Role Amazon Advertising Plays in Business Transformation 💰 5. The Science Behind Developing a Successful Sales Portal 🛠 Fun Fact Alert! 🎉 Did you know that the humble tart cherry, the main ingredient in Cherbundi's hydrating drinks, is scientifically proven to improve sleep and reduce inflammation? Who knew being healthy could be so... tart-fully delicious! 🍒 Outtro 🎙 Our host, Blaine Bolus, brings out these pearls of wisdom through his trademark casual yet insightful talk with guest and Cherbundi's CMO, Rob Willey. Together, they delve deep into the strategies and decision-making processes that shape the future of startups and how businesses can set themselves apart in today's saturated market. Call to Action 👇 Loved what you read? Why not lend an ear to the conversation? Click here to listen to the latest DTC POD episode. After listening, don't forget to share your insights with us! Tag us on Twitter @DTCPOD with the hashtag #DTCPOD229. Let's keep the conversation going! Happy Listening, Blaine, and the rest of the DTC POD team. 🚀

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1/ Often we idolize founders and their initial brilliant idea. But, the magic truly happens when seasoned executives join an early startup and complement this raw genius. 💫 2/ Take Rob Willey's journey at Cherbundi, the all-natural sports nutrition company. His mission was to diagnose and fix problems in the brand. Starter's note: even the best need repair from time to time. 3/ He took their ailing D to C business (issues with product assortment, design, and user experience) and turned it around with an incisive focus on understanding the cultural conversation and consumer behaviors. 4/ Lesson? Small guys can win! By identifying the social conversation and fitting into it, Cherbundi differentiated itself from major players despite high competition. 5/ They had their challenges, like the high costs and low conversion rates in paid social, but they navigated through, like a sailor in a storm, learning from each leap and bound. 6/ Proud to say they even managed to take on Amazon's mighty river: by rerouting some financial resources into Amazon advertising, guess what? Their sales surged! 7/ Cherbundi champions natural, high quality recovery, competing against synthetic powers like Gatorade. Not an easy arena to step into. But it's about identifying your ideal customer profile & discovering how they consume. 8/ Reminds me of David & Goliath, doesn’t it? How does a humble startup challenge industry titans? Through careful strategy selection, discipline, and a targeted approach to getting your message across. 9/ For Cherbundi, they used the Pit Crew influencer program - a power-packed team of thought leaders, dietitians, and athletes. They shared educational content and used niche marketing tactics. 10/ Finally, the power of team dynamics - be it at Cherbundi or Rob's time at TaskRabbit. Building the right team chemistry and culture is crucial for survival and eventual success. 11/ Summing up, startups thrive on complementary expertise, a close read of cultural currents, and targeted strategies. And remember, even Goliaths can be tackled - if you've got the right sling!

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1. "Executive Hires for Growth": Hiring executives who understand a founder's genius can help identify growth opportunities in the business. 2. "Showcasing Impact through Quick Wins": Quick wins in startups highlight their potential and help in gaining traction. 3. "Importance of Cultural Comprehension": Understanding cultural conversations and changing consumer behavior is vital for business prosperity. 4. "Social Conversation Strategy": Smaller companies differentiate themselves from larger competitors through fitting into social discussions. 5. "Email Marketing for Retention": Cherry Bundy's email program improved retention, emphasizing email marketing's role in customer relationship maintenance. 6. "Leveraging Amazon for Sales": Proper funding allocation for Amazon advertising can boost sales significantly, as experienced by Cherry Bundy. 7. "Streamlining Administrative Processes": The creation of Cherry Bundy's "pro shop" streamlined administrative tasks, freeing up resources for sales. 8. "Identifying and Fixing Brand Problems": Rob Willey's first task as CMO was identifying and correcting Cherbundi's brand issues. 9. "Challenging the Status Quo": Defying the status quo by understanding target consumers' habits can help startups gain market share. 10. "Optimizing Social Media Reach": By creating educational content and utilizing paid social media, businesses can increase their reach and meet their goals.

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1. "Hire smart and complement the genius of founders." - Recognize the unique visions and capabilities founders bring to a company. Executive hires should supplement these qualities. 2. "Quick wins are the stepping stones to success." - Especially for startups, early achievements, however small, can drive significant progress. 3. "Innovation doesn't play by larger competitors' rules." - As a startup, identify unique consumer conversations and tap into them for differentiation. 4. "Attention is the gateway to growth." - Listen closely to your market's needs, wants, and conversations. Tune into cultural shifts and discerning consumer behaviors. 5. "Embrace the power of communities." - A strong community around your product can lead to high retention rates despite product or service challenges. 6. "Allocate budget where growth potential lives." - Identifying and investing in platforms with high conversion possibilities can drive significant revenue, such as Amazon advertising. 7. "Every challenge is an opportunity in disguise." - Challenges, like the COVID-19 pandemic, are an excuse for creative, out-of-the-box thinking to still meet targets. 8. "Marketing isn't a tax – it's the fuel for remarkability." - Investing in marketing can help build a distinct and impactful brand image. 9. "Questions are the answers." - Constantly question what's wrong, what's working, and where opportunities lie. 10. "Disrupting the status quo takes courage." - Challenging mainstream products, like Gatorade in sports nutrition, requires audacity and innovative solutions. 11. "Education is the heartbeat of marketing." - Educate your customers about your product and its benefits. Leverage influencers and content marketing to reach your goals. 12. "The grassroots approach has its rewards." - Smaller companies often benefit more from grassroots, customer-focused strategies than industry titans. 13. "Play your own game." - Focus on your unique goals, strengths, and strategies, not what larger brands are doing. 14. "Retain your users, not just attract them." - Building lasting relationships with users is as important as, if not more than, user acquisition. 15. "Marketplaces are double-sided coins." - Managing both demand and supply requires distinct strategies and understanding. 16. "Invest in a team, not just an idea." - A company's success is as much about people and culture as it is about the product or service. 17. "Data don't drive change; people do." - Metrics can guide decisions, but ultimately, people and their insights drive change. 18. "Resource allocation is decision-making." - Where you choose to invest your resources indicates your prioritization and decision-making. 19. "Celebrate growth at every stage." - Whether you're an early startup or an established brand, take the time to acknowledge and celebrate every bit of progress.

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1. Tart cherries used by Cherbundi are scientifically proven to improve sleep and reduce inflammation, leading to their use in sports nutrition products. 2. During COVID-19 despite lack of sports activities, Cherbundi's sports team managed to exceed their goal of adding 50 new teams. 3. TaskRabbit, where Rob worked before, was one of the early pioneers in the sharing economy, similar to now very well-known companies like Uber and Lyft.

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Title: Breaking the Status Quo: A CMO's Guide to Business Transformation with Rob Willey Subheader: The DTC Pod Host Blaine Bolus Gets the Scoop on Rob Willey's Role in Transforming Share of Bundy **Reolutionizing Team Dynamics** In episode #229 of the DTC Pod, host Blaine Bolus had an engaging conversation with guest Rob Willey about the former's journey as CMO at Cherbundi. With meticulous attention to startup culture and the need for strategic changes, Willey focused on the necessity of executive hires who fully understand their role in complementing the genius of the founders. **User Retention and Growth** Despite the challenges faced by startups competing in the nutrition industry with established giants, Cherry Bundy made some substantial progress. Recognizing the importance of quick wins for showcasing impact and gaining traction, Willey directed substantial effort into establishing and gaining the trust of a solid community. Despite design setbacks and user experience issues, customer retention rates remained high. The strategy behind this result was a professional implementation of an email program targeting customer retention that showed promising results. **Leveraging External Channels** Cherbundi also experienced significant success with its Amazon business, but initially, lacked financial support to bolster sales. The decision to allocate funds to Amazon advertising proved fruitful by increasing sales. Additionally, understanding the importance of social interaction helped Cherbundi to fit into trending topics, thus differentiating the brand from larger companies. **Mobilizing Internal Resources** The company's sports team provided necessary insights and knowledge regarding the business, leading to the development of a sales portal, the "pro shop". With this innovation, the sports team shed administrative tasks to focus on selling. Even under the harsh conditions imposed by COVID-19, the team not only reached but surpassed their goal of adding 50 new teams. **Positioning Cherbundi** Founded with the goal of enhancing hydration naturally, Cherbundi uses scientifically beneficial tart cherries in its products. With more than 400 professional sports teams patronizing their hydration products, Cherbundi's philosophy of natural recovery is rapidly gaining a mainstream following. Despite facing challenges in battling the status quo and repositioning Cherbundi in the conversation around hydration products, their strategies were creating partnerships with universities and sponsoring sports events. **Tactics and Strategies in a Start-Up Environment** Willey reiterated that the marketing landscape for startups is drastically different from that of larger companies. Big brands aim to create headlines and stay top of mind with PR. Conversely, startups like Cherbundi must employ strategies that guarantee quantifiable growth at the bottom line. Willey shared his experience in building successful grassroots campaigns focused on educating consumers and influential thought leaders through their 'Pit Crew' influencer program. **Conclusion** Blaine Bolus rounded up the conversation appreciating the resourcefulness of startups like Cherbundi. Companies' different tactics enable competition in an industry dominated by corporate giants. Rob Willey's insights provide valuable guidance for CMOs and startups aiming to achieve sustainable growth in challenging environments. As startups innovate and disrupt established norms, a customer-centric approach combined with effective resource allocation can drive significant progress.

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In this episode of DTC POD, Rob Willey, CMO of Cherry Bundy, shares impactful insights. Key takeaways include the importance of quick wins, understanding the changing consumer behaviors, battling the status quo, and bringing natural recovery mainstream. He underscores how smaller companies can differentiate themselves by identifying and sliding into social conversations, and the need for startups to be choiceful and disciplined in selecting strategies. Let's dive in to explore these strategies and more.

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Rob Willey's insights revolve around the importance of understanding the business environment and leveraging strengths to achieve growth. Startups should focus on quick wins to increase impact and traction. Identifying and fitting into the social conversation can help smaller businesses differentiate from established brands. It's also important to understand and adapt to changing consumer behaviors. Adjusting spending towards areas yielding results such as Amazon for Cherry Bundy is advisable. Concentrate on enhancing user experience and leveraging community strength for customer retention. Streamline administrative processes to benefit sales efficiency. Recognize and address the limitations of startup funding. Utilize targeted educational programs and social media to educate consumers and drive goals. Although competing with industry giants is challenging, it opens up opportunities for startups by employing unique, targeted strategies, as Cherry Bundy did replacing Gatorade in the sports nutrition conversation.

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Slide 1: Title: "10 Tips Every Retention Marketer Needs to Know" Slide 2: Title: "Avoid Vanity Metrics" Explanation: Instead, analyze meaningfully contributing factors to your product growth and retention rates. Slide 3: Title: "Don't Ignore Culture" Explanation: Tap into the cultural conversation and align your brand accordingly to build connections. Slide 4: Title: "Avoid High-Cost Channels" Explanation: Invest in affordable channels that provide higher conversion rates, like community building. Slide 5: Title: "Don't Neglect UX" Explanation: Focus on improving user experience on your website to increase engagement and conversions. Slide 6: Title: "Neglecting Amazon" Explanation: Put funds into Amazon advertising. It's a resource you can't ignore! Slide 7: Title: "Ignoring Employee Insights" Explanation: Leverage the knowledge and experience of your team for better business comprehension. Slide 8: Title: "Stuck in Bureaucracy" Explanation: Streamline processes. For example, a 'pro shop' can help focus more on selling than administration. Slide 9: Title: "Chasing Everyone" Explanation: Define your Ideal Customer Profile and understand their specific consumption patterns. Slide 10: Title: "Neglecting Education" Explanation: Empower customers with knowledge about your product. This could be through influencer programs or educational content. Slide 11: Title: "Being Status Quo" Explanation: Do not settle for the ordinary. Aim to make your brand remarkable for differentiation and growth.

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Slide 1 - Cover - "10 Essential Tips Every CMO Needs to Know" Slide 2 - "Executive Insight" - Tap into executive hires' fresh perspectives and unique insights to identify growth opportunities. Slide 3 - "Complement Genius" - Learn to understand and complement the genius of your company's founders. Slide 4 - "Quick Wins" - Showcase impact and gain traction through immediate, visible results. Slide 5 - "Fit Culture" - Identify the cultural conversation and adapt your brand to fit in seamlessly. Slide 6 - "Improve UX" - Invest in enhancing user experience, design, and product assortment. Slide 7 - "Leverage Community" - Build on your existing community, improve retention rates through targeted programs. Slide 8 - "Maximize Platforms" - Optimize platforms like Amazon for increased sales using targeted advertising. Slide 9 - "Battle the Status Quo" - Identify your Ideal Customer Profile and compete against complacency. Slide 10 - "Educate Consumers" - Develop educational content and leverage influencers to reach consumers effectively. Slide 11 - CTA - "Apply these tips to transform your business. Don't miss out, follow DTC POD for more insights!"

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1. Your executive hires can spotlight opportunities a growing business might miss. It's about blending their perspectives with the genius of founding teams. 2. Quick wins aren't just for morale boosts, they're crucial for startups to earn momentum. Start small, but aim high! 3. In the nutrition industry, startups compete hard against giants. Winning requires understanding the cultural narrative and changing consumer behavior. 4. Paid Social - looks flashy, but watch for the pitfalls. High costs and low conversion rates can choke your growth. Strategy matters! 5. Direct-To-Consumer businesses demand attention to detail. Product assortment, design, and user experience make or break customer relationships. Stay sharp! 6. COVID-19 might have shuttered sports, but it couldn't stall our goals. Adding 50 new teams isn't just a target hit, it's a testament to resilience! 7. Boosting marketing budgets? Call it a tax for being unremarkable. The goal is to make your brand extraordinary; every strategy pivots on that. 8. Understanding your ideal customer isn't just sales 101. It's reading consumption patterns and battling the status quo! 9. Advertising is a tricky game of numbers. Startups might not move the dial like big brands, but we've got opportunity on our side. Spot it, grab it! 10. TaskRabbit's story isn't just about conquering competition. It's about treading the path of quality, honing in on services, and leaning into customer retention. It's about resilience.

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