So that's that's what we do. Right? We talk all day. So this has been a interesting kinda shift for me anyways to get into, like, the podcasting and and fitness side of things. But it's not that far aligned when you think about work. I'm from so same for you too. I mean, you're a good speaker because, well, you got the training from being a litigator for so many years. So, okay. So we're not we're gonna go be live.

So just so you know, if you need to pause or whatever you need to call, just let me know. We can we can pause and and carry on from there. Okay. And if you wanna go back and say, you know, correct something, by all means, let me know. So no stress on that. Perfect. Awesome. 321.

Hey, folks. I'm sitting down with Kristen Rolle. Kristen Rolle is a business litigator, trial lawyer liar at home. Now let's start again, man. Let's start again. I just tripped up on 3 words, unacceptable. But did I did I pronounce your last name right, Raul?

That is a great question. It's actually Raul. It's just like Powell. It's like Colin Powell. Everyone knows how to say his name, and we did an r on mine instead of a p.

So okay. I listened to your podcast with Cynthia, and she said, Joel. So she screwed up she screwed up because she's from New Jersey. That's probably

mine. It might be.

Okay. So I'm like, okay. Point it out. Okay. So Kristen Rowell.

Yes.

That's how I was gonna pronounce it anyways. So Perfect. Okay. 321.

With talent.

Let's go again. 321. Hey, folks. Welcome to another episode of the Hardskill podcast. I'm sitting here with Kristen Rowell. She's a business litigator trial lawyer turned functional nutritional therapist and the founder CEO of energetically efficient. As a former high stress business litigator turned FNT, Kristin speaks to and serves her kind of people, high achieving, often stressed out professionals who desire to prioritize their health and wellness, but need accountability and support from an expert. She is the go to health coach for many successful executives around the country.

And, Kristen, so you're an advocate for low carb diets and increasing muscle mass for longevity. So can we start with why you're trying to destroy society as a whole with your crazy nonsense? So obviously, I'm kidding. Obviously, I'm kidding. And it's it's a pleasure to have you on the show. And point of note, folks, Kristen, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but you've done over 25 or 25 marathons and are a competitive body builder to add to the list that we just went over, which is pretty impressive if if you ask me. So welcome to the show, and, how are you doing today?

I'm great. Thank you so much, Dave, for having me. I'm super excited to be here. Yes. I'm trying to kinda ruin the world 1 person at a time with metabolic health by not letting them eat to wild abandon with their carbohydrates and telling them they need to get in the gym for a little bit. So I'm excited to talk to you about those topics and anything else you wanna cover today.

Right on. We definitely will. The joke was kinda made in not necessarily out of out of left field. I had a conversation with Kelly Starett about being healthy is kind of subversive these days. In terms of you're not really listening to the knowledge or the the wisdom that is supposed to be what we're doing which is coming from government agencies. And I find that really interesting. And and what you're doing is part of that that whole subversiveness, if you wanna call it, where you're talking about things like nutrition and adding muscle mass. So I'd like to start there.

What led you to becoming a functional nutrition practitioner?

Yeah. It seems like kind of an odd transition. Right? Here I am having this thriving business litigation practice. Loved being a lawyer. Loved being a trial lawyer. And I had done that for 16 years. So when I decided to make the whole entire lifestyle shift and career change to go back to school for nutrition and do this for a living, people were like, wait. What? You're leaving the practice of law? Why? And like anyone with a really good story of evolution, because I believe that we're all here to evolve, My story really started when I fell in December of 2013.

So this is now, you know, 10 years ago. And I broke my right leg in 10 places. I fell on ice when I was on a work trip in Williston, North Dakota. And really what that catalyzed for me, I had no awareness of it at the time, but it did catalyze for me this interest in understanding how I, someone who has, like you've mentioned, run 25 marathons. I am a natural professional bodybuilder, although I wasn't at that time. How I could have broken my bones so bad. Mhmm. And is it possible that maybe my body wasn't absorbing the nutrients I was eating? Carbo load.

Carbo load. Carbo load. So I had always been fueled with carbohydrates and come to find out as I found this amazing chiropractor slash physical therapist who I started to do work with to heal from my injury. He was a distance runner, like, distance distance.

Like, 60 miles plus?