And let's get into it. Are you able to share your camera?

I haven't. Let me double check here.

All right, so thank you for taking some time to be with me today. Did I start the recording? Yes, I did. Okay, so first off, please share your name and a little bit about yourself.

My name is Carol Sabilski. I'm one of the nurses with the Franklin Health Department. I have been very interested in projects and programs for older adults. I've been a stepping on leader for, I think, 10, 11 years. And before that, I was involved in a number of other fall prevention workshops and trainings for people. I like to do a lot of programming for adults and topics that they're interested in. And I've been involved in immunizations for all ages here. I've been with the city for probably over 30 years, so I kind of have a little history.

Okay. Are you from Milwaukee? Are you from.

I'm not, I'm not. I'm from Minnesota. I grew up in Minnesota.

Oh, Minnesota.

Okay.

How did you get here? So what brought you to Milwaukee?

You know, I had a classmate, I went to school in South Dakota, and both of us were looking at. My parents lived in the St. Paul at that time, and I just. They had just recently moved up there, and I didn't really know anybody up there, but I decided that we, the two of us, we both named Carol, decided that we would check out Milwaukee. Her sister had moved here and she was a teacher in this public school system. And we interviewed at every hospital that was in the Milwaukee area. And back then it was probably seven or eight of them and had actually job offers from all of them. But we chose to start out at St.

Joe's especially because it was involved with a teaching program. And at that time, there wasn't freighter, that was just the county hospital. So we did not. We did not interview there, but found that each of us found our kind of our niche in what we like to do.

Yeah.

So. And then after that, after I got. Got married, I had a couple of years where I wasn't working at all. And then I got back in part time. I started out with the immunization clinics and then, you know, developed more interest in areas where I would be in contact with adults and older adults.

Gotcha, gotcha. Can you share your journey into facilitating health programs for older adults and what motivates you in this role?

Well, I'd have to say that I have always enjoyed older people. I enjoyed working with them, hearing their stories. And then as I started to realize that so many of them were, you know, having difficulties as they got older and because people were living longer, they were, you know, having surgeries, they were recovering and they were still needing to be a little more mobile. And I also felt that it was just, it was just something that I wanted to get involved in and work with older adults. I started out doing, like I said, a couple of different fall prevention programs. That of them was called It's a matter of Balance and also a. Also one of the trainers there that brought me into it was an occupational therapist. And I really got to understand more from her point of view some of the issues that seniors do have and what can be done to help them.

So what was your like initiation into doing the programming? Like was it that, that the balance one or how did you even find out about it?